Posted on 11/14/2006 7:07:15 PM PST by Robert Drobot
Ping to post #2.
Additionally, Catholic teaching clearly recognizes the right of a country to make laws regulating immigration to protect the greater good of the country.
IT IS NOT THE VATICAN SPEAKING -- IT'S JUST ONE LIBERAL CARDINAL!!
IT IS REALLY POOR FORM TO BASH THE CATHOLIXC CHURCH BECAUSE OF THE STATEMENTS OF ONE LIBERAL BISHOP!! KNOCK IT OFF!!
You act like the gold is an asset in a bank account. If the Catholic Church has gold, most of it is locked up in things that are shared with many others, in terms of art, and vessels used in religious ceremonies.
Well said. They do take from the poor. And if they want to be charitable then they ought to open their own coffers and support the Mexicans or they ought to mind their own business. Why don't they take down their walls and get rid of their guards too? I am sure the Mexicans would like the Vatican City.
Freaking divide and conquerer reuters again...spit.
Certain FReepers are all too willing to fall for it as well, given their predisposition.
I suppose locks on the Vatican palace museum gates are inhuman too, no? Bad Vatican. And that SAME cardinal came out and said that everyone should obey the law. Well, which is it? These leftists just never seem to think things through. This guy should shut up and pray.
This cardinal should note that Vatican City has been protected by a wall for over a thousand years. And I would bet a month's salary that he has a lock on his front door, too.
Someone in Rome needs a nice big cup of STFU.
Please consider the following from my notes:
Michael Novak Attacks Cardinal Martino, Defends the Iraq War
Sept 16, 2004
"Martino? There he goes again! The Italian newspaper Il Foglio ran a piece Dec. 16 about the frustration at the Vatican, at the secretariat of state, with the imprudent, irascible anti-Americanism of Cardinal Martino, an unfortunate recent appointment (late last year) to the Council for Justice and Peace, who has not ceased being an embarrassment to his superiors." By Michael Novak.
(Source unknown, 17 December 2003)
"When I was in Rome last February, Cardinal Martino was already under heavy fire for his intemperate and irrepressible anti-Americanism. Even those who before the war leaned more to the French/German position than to the American were dismayed by his uncalled-for comments.
Il Foglio pointed out today that Cardinal Sodano, the secretary of state (the official who functions something like a prime minister for the Vatican, the top leader of administration domestic and foreign), not only changed the whole title of the document on World Peace released today but also edited out the most offensive passages of Cardinal Martino, from whose department the draft arrived in the last few days.
"The title, for example, went from "International Law, a Way of Peace," to the less ideological "An Ever Timely Commitment: Teaching Peace." Other rhetorical flourishes were also edited out, according to Il Foglio."
It is important that those of you who so quickly condemn the Vatican understand that the very same schism dividing our country also exists within the Church. I would hope you will make yourselves aware of those divisions and that you would consider "rooting" for Pope Benedict's conservatism to win out, whether you are religious or not.
Hey, before we go on with the Catholic bashing...
realize this Cardinal Martino is a loose cannon. He has been reprimanded more than once by this Pope and previous one for talking out of turn, and giving his opinion as official view of the Pope when it was not.
Martino was the spokesman all over the news before we went into Iraq condemning America (Pope John Paul II, contrary to popular belief never "condemned" the Iraq war).
Everyone knows Martino is a a leftist and America-hater. The MSM misleads people when it says "The Vatican" which implies it's an official statement on morals by the pope, but it can be any Vatical official just spouting his own personal views.
"It is important that those of you who so quickly condemn the Vatican understand that the very same schism dividing our country also exists within the Church. I would hope you will make yourselves aware of those divisions and that you would consider "rooting" for Pope Benedict's conservatism to win out, whether you are religious or not."
Thanks, your post is more eloquent than mine. Also now with Cardinal Bertone as Secretary of State, I hope there will be even less "Vatican" tolerance of Martino.
People hopefully realize this is like one Congressman speaking his views; he does not represent the views of the entire nation, or even the government. Same when one Vatican employee gives his opinion.
"And if they want to be charitable then they ought to open their own coffers..."
The charities, programs and missions of the Catholic Church contribute more to feeding, healing and educating the poor of the entire planet, regardless of religion, than do all the programs of the U.N. and U.S. together!
Pope Benedict, TEAR DOWN THAT WALL!
It is INHUMAN and INHUMSNE, and UNCONSCIONABLE to keep the POOR, the DOWN-TRODDEN, the ASYLUM SEEKER out of Vatican City!
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