Vatican cardinal says U.S.-Mexico fence "inhuman"

http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=domesticNews&storyid=2006-11-14T155849Z_01_L14287390_RTRUKOC_0_US-POPE-IMMIGRATION-FENCE.xml&src=rss&rpc=22 ^ | Philip Pullella

[La Enchiladita]

Hypocrisy, thy name is Cardinal Martino.

[sageb1]

"People hopefully realize this is like one Congressman speaking his views; he does not represent the views of the entire nation, or even the government. Same when one Vatican employee gives his opinion."

Precisely!

[Jacob Kell]

I know that Martino is a pinko who certainly doesn't represent the real viewpoint of both Pope Benedict and John Paul or most of the Vatican. However, I'm afraid that there are people who think that he does.

[sageb1]

"I know that Martino is a pinko who certainly doesn't represent the real viewpoint of both Pope Benedict and John Paul or most of the Vatican. However, I'm afraid that there are people who think that he does."

Yes. And unfortunately, half of them are Catholics.

[sageb1]

ping

[Bellflower]

If they want to come here why don't they let us take over their government? Can't they figure out that something works here that doesn't there? Mexico is ramped with corruption. If they would clean that up there would be plenty for their people but their leaders probably don't care or are desperately afraid of lesser elements. Mexico is a country rich with natural resources and possibilities. I am sure what they need first is what we need too, a gospel revival.

[flaglady47]

Everyone knows Martino is a a leftist and America-hater. The MSM misleads people when it says "The Vatican" which implies it's an official statement on morals by the pope, but it can be any Vatical official just spouting his own personal views.

Then Pope BXVI should come out and refute Martino's statements, and/or state his own opinion on the building of the wall on the U.S. Southern Border. It's a bit of a cop out to say the Vatican doesn't believe the same as Martino when it doesn't come out with a statement of its own, or a refutation of what Martino said.

[Roy Tucker]

With all due respect to Cardinal Martino, and I say this as a Catholic. Last time I was in Rome, I noticed there were walls all around the Vatican to separate it from Italy.

It's inhuman, I tell you!

[UglyinLA]

Martino is an anti-American socialist...

Gee, this automatically qualifies him to be the next Pope.

[George W. Bush]

Inhuman? Compared to Mexico's southern border where they have fences, machine guns, etc.?

And the Vatican and many Catholic properties have plenty of wall. Are those inhuman too?

This cardinal is a poofter playing politics. He debases our Savior.

[groovejedi]

Good Lord!

[groovejedi]

Bad Cardinal~

[NYer]

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[Carolina]

The Cardinal is unhinged.

[TaxachusettsMan]

Happy to report that Cardinal Renato Martino has been awarded POMPOUS HYPOCRITICAL FRAUD OF THE MONTH

by the outstanding and hysterical blog

http://www.guymouthingoff.blogspot.com/

Fascinating stuff about Cardinal Martino's rather odd relationship with a floral shop in Ottawa!

What's THAT all about?

[SaltyJoe]

The purpose of politicized statements has nothing to do with gathering, but scattering.

For example, what if the headline were, "Pentagon official says a legitimate method for poor soldiers to supplement their income is to use their gov't issued guns to rob the locals."

Sound unrealistic? What about the very real comment of a Naval Admiral who said American servicemen should have bought whores instead of raping a young Okinawan girl?

Sure, you'd get some to bite the bait. But, what has the headline served? It's upset a reader with reaction. We're all sensitive to a bait of some sort.

It's good that there's a wall about Vatican City. They need a wall because there are a lot of unfriendly anti-Catholics that want to hurt Vatican officials. What can't be gained in honor and friendship must be respected with the labor of deterrence. Jesus warned us of such because he told his disciples to sell their cloak to obtain swords. Sacraments are much strong than swords, but the deterrence is necessary in a wicked world. Supernatural evil abhors the Sacraments, but the wicked hearts of men recognize physical defense too.

[El Conservador]

Exactly.

[RamingtonStall]

Cardinal Martino is just one Cardinal and does not speak for the Vatican. He is very liberal and lost out to Pope Benedict XVI by a long shot.

Additionally, Catholic teaching clearly recognizes the right of a country to make laws regulating immigration to protect the greater good of the country.

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Thanks for posting the clarification. I know that most Catholic churches in my section of the country LOCK THEIR DOORS at night and many of them lock their doors during most hours of the day as well.

Perhaps now the Vatican will instruct the USA Churches to leave their doors unlocked and to provide milk and cookies and bed linens for the Illegal Alien Invaders.

Can't you feel the Love?

RamS

[AliVeritas]

Look, as you know... Reuters isn't a good source for even lining the birdcage. This is a liberal cardinal that doesn't know when to shut up... kinda like the stray old nuns for choice (why do they care and why haven't they left). Papa Bene will receive another email from me on the mouth on the cardinal.

My position has been...

Why aren't the cardinals, bishops and priests speaking out more against those in power re: Mexico, for the rights of the people? Why is it okay for them to be treated like slaves here? What about how it affects our taxpayers, law enforcement, prisons, economy, social services, health, hospitals, in-state tuition, education costs, bilingual documents costs, fraudalent documents felonies, gang crime and it being against the law in the first place?

There are people being persecuted all over the world who'd I rather see being helped here... Why is it when their neighbor (us), who's responsible for most of their GDP regardless of all the natural resources there, with taking care of most of their people here and sending them aid),... see us attacked on our soil, and make NO attempt to stop those who come across our border from there? If they don't care about others coming in who could attack here, why should we care about illegal Mexicans being able to come here? Hello? it's illegal.

Do you know how many friends I have that are waiting to become citizens or have family members who for years have waited to come here the legal way? They have spent thousands and are held back because they haven't even processed the amnesty from Reagan yet years ago... What makes them think they can do this on top of it? The system is screwed up enough as it is.

For people to come here illegal, and march in our streets with allegiance to other countries (I know, go back there if you love it so much), when they should be in their countries protesting for rights so they don't have to leave... is ridiculous and more than ballsy. The businesses are even worse, they order up folks like a bag of fries to do their cheap labor... and sometimes don't pay them. It doesn't work either way.

And here we are talking about min. wage increase and amnesty at the same time... are they smoking rope? Where's the money coming from? Us, that's who.

Since we're shadowing the depopulation mark due to 43 million abortions since 1973 (some of those would've been taxpayers by now and in the workforce), we have migration. Look at Europe, those who have the kids, rule the world. Now everyone here is too selfish and can't commit to having children... cramps their style. Go look at the World Mapping site and graph up births, deaths and migration... you'll see what i'm talking about.

I hope the troops have jobs when they come back, half the teenagers don't start learning the early ethics of work and responsibility through first jobs because there aren't many at all... even when it comes to summer youth jobs here in NYC, not good.

[Gideon Reader]

Does that mean that the Vatican will indemnify the United States and the individual communities that are forced to provide medical, criminal justice and every other social service to those who have breached both the actual borders and laws of the United States?
Will they further in perpetuity, indemnify each person victimized by illegals or the surviving families of those injured or killed by these persons?

Will the Vatican bear the economic expense?
If not, please shut the hell up and tend to your Big Priest Small Boy problems.