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Full-Size Christmas Trees to Return to Seattle Airport [all trees going back up!]
Fox News Online ^ | 12/12/06 | AP

Posted on 12/11/2006 10:13:29 PM PST by TheBigB

SEATAC, Wash. — The Christmas trees are going back up at Seattle-Tacoma International Airport.

Port of Seattle officials had ordered the trees taken down over the weekend after a local rabbi threatened a lawsuit if a menorah wasn't also displayed at the airport.

Airport officials say they took that action out of concern that if they allowed the addition of a menorah, they would also have to display symbols of other religions and cultures, which was not something airport workers had time for during the busiest travel season of the year.

Rabbi Elazar Bogomilsky says he never asked that the trees be taken down, and the threat of a lawsuit was withdrawn.

With the threat of the lawsuit gone, airport spokesman Bob Parker says all 14 trees will go back up -- hopefully by tomorrow morning.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: airport; antichristian; bahumbug; bigotry; christmas; culturewar; freep; freeping; hannukah; menorah; merrychristmas; onepercent; portofseattle; rabid; scrooge; seatac; seattle; suecrazy; suescenareo; waronchristmas; xmas
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To: Junior_G

He was on O'Reilly last night saying he

1. didn't demand the trees be taken down.
2. His group offered to provided the Menorah for the airport
3. and the issue was overblown by the media


41 posted on 12/12/2006 3:27:22 AM PST by EBH
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To: livius
They've darkened the hall instead of turning the lights up," said his lawyer, Harvey Grad. "There is a concern here that the Jewish community will be portrayed as the Grinch."

The Grinch is the airport authority that knee jerked to avoid controversy, thus causing controversy.

Any suit would have demanded installation of Jewish symbols, not the removal of trees.

I am appalled that the airport gets a free pass for their cowardice.

42 posted on 12/12/2006 3:30:19 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (Here come I, gravitas in tow.)
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To: Jrabbit

Well I have been following this flap and have been amused.

Jews have been treated better in the USA than anywhere else on this planet. This is mostly because Americans simply have no prejudice or preconceived notions about Jews save for yer oddball here and there.

We're not like Europe or God forbid the Mideast is what I'm saying here.

You can take this to the bank. Jews understand the value of PR and this little episode was bad PR from the start for American Jewry.

I don't know what the hell the guy was thinking who filed this suit but I do know that American Jews across the country fought to shut him the hell up.

Hey, they got us distrusting and disliking Muslims and most Americans support Israel. It'd be a darn shame if a stupid thing like this turned the tide against that good will and kinship.

The Jews already got the entire planet against them so why on earth disaffect the mightiest and greatest planet on the earth, darn near their ONLY friends?

Give them credit, American Jews fought back. As I understand it, a group of Jews even volunteered to put them all back up!

Muslims live, die and breathe by propaganda and lies. Jews understand this. Americans need to get a clue.


43 posted on 12/12/2006 3:34:56 AM PST by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com)
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To: TheBigB

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44 posted on 12/12/2006 3:35:35 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: mewzilla
Reis is a 'Rat.

Figgers.

45 posted on 12/12/2006 3:35:57 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Fishtalk
This is mostly because Americans simply have no prejudice or preconceived notions about Jews save for yer oddball here and there.

It hasn't been that way for too long. You only need to go back a couple of generations to find great amounts of prejudice directed at Jews. Fortunately, things have changed, despite this orthodox rabbi's little campaign.

What's disgusting to me is that they're using plastic trees in a place that grows great real trees! It's just so---un-Washington!

46 posted on 12/12/2006 3:42:49 AM PST by hunter112 (Total victory at home and in the Middle East!)
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To: TheBigB

are there just more stupid people up ther in seattle tacoma?


47 posted on 12/12/2006 3:44:57 AM PST by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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To: livius

I could certainly be wrong...I just read the interview and thought "yeah...that could happen..."

But if others say he is being duplicitous, well I don't know enough about that to know. I read that account from a conservative columnist who I like (I think it was Townhall, but cannot find it again)


48 posted on 12/12/2006 3:46:18 AM PST by rlmorel (Islamofacism: It is all fun and games until someone puts an eye out. Or chops off a head.)
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To: TheBigB

Well, dang. How 'bout that.


49 posted on 12/12/2006 3:46:47 AM PST by ExGeeEye (Day 208 (counting up))
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To: livius; 1st-P-In-The-Pod; A_Conservative_in_Cambridge; af_vet_rr; agrace; albyjimc2; ...
The group he is part of, the Lubavitchers, goes around suing different places to put up menorahs every year

They go around putting up menorahs, they do not go around suing people. Sometimes they have been sued by the ACLU for putting up the menorah.

Please get your facts straight, I am a member of this organization and two of my sons are very active in the menorah campaign, in Moscow and San Francisco.

Rabbi Bogulmilsky has admitted his mistake and the trees are back in place at Sea-Tac.

I thought one of the main principles of the Christian faith was forgiveness, especially towards someone who is contrite. But maybe I am wrong.

FRmail me to be added or removed from this Judaic/pro-Israel/Russian Jewry ping list.

Warning! This is a high-volume ping list.

50 posted on 12/12/2006 3:47:08 AM PST by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 104-105)
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To: hunter112

They're welcome to the 130 footer I have in my back yard... buy they gotta do the movin!


51 posted on 12/12/2006 3:47:42 AM PST by djf (They have their place. We have our place. WAKE UP!! They want to turn our place into their place!!!)
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To: moehoward

See my post at #39...I only really saw one source before I entered this thread. My first impressions were in line with a columnist who interviewed him...so my impressions could certainly be wrong. Many on here seem to know this guy and his past actions.


52 posted on 12/12/2006 3:49:59 AM PST by rlmorel (Islamofacism: It is all fun and games until someone puts an eye out. Or chops off a head.)
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To: TheBigB

This rabbi is somewhat dishonest. He was on BOR last night and never mentioned anything about the lawsuit. Then again, BOR did not do his homework and made it sound as if the airport officials were all at fault. He never brought up the lawsuit either probably because he did not know about it. However, the rabbi made it sound as if he made a simple, polite request and the airport officials acted too hastily.


53 posted on 12/12/2006 3:50:28 AM PST by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: Amos the Prophet

Would you rather have the airport embroiled in a juicy ugly lawsuit at its busiest time of the year? Sorry, but this guy was simply wrong. If he really felt the Christmas tree was a religious symbol (and it's actually not any longer, certainly not in the sense that a menorah is) or if he wanted a menorah in the airport, he could have approached them months in advance with the request. This was an attempt to pressure them with a sudden request and the threat of a lawsuit, and it simply didn't work out the way he expected.

The Lubavitchers have been successful here in Florida using just such techniques to pressure towns into putting up menorahs, even claiming that the town Santa Claus (which it is laughable to consider a "religious symbol," regardless of its origins) means that they get "equal time" for their menorah. I think the airport was acting reasonably. There have been judicial decisions that have permitted trees and other displays because they are cultural rather than religious, but who has time to get into that issue right now when the holiday season is in full swing?


54 posted on 12/12/2006 3:50:51 AM PST by livius
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To: TheBigB

In other news, there is a very large Muslim display right in the middle of the Kriskindlmarket (sp) in downtown Chicago.....complete with the crescent and calls to prayer 5x/day. Daley's event planning office needs to be FReeped.


55 posted on 12/12/2006 3:53:24 AM PST by RushCrush (Reporting live from the holy city of Chicago)
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To: 7thson

I saw that, too. He spun O'Reilly around like a dreidel.


56 posted on 12/12/2006 3:53:25 AM PST by hunter112 (Total victory at home and in the Middle East!)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
Sea-Tac always called them "Holiday Trees" The media pushed the "Christmas Tree" issue.

OK, FReepers, here's an IQ test.

If you get the right answer, your IQ is definitely over 70.

Q: What HOLIDAY, occurring in December every year, is traditionally celebrated by the placing and decoration of TREES?

57 posted on 12/12/2006 3:54:25 AM PST by Jim Noble (Chairman, FR Rudy for President 2008 Caucus)
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To: brushcop
I'm going to go to Israel and complain that I've been offended by the display of menorah and the star of David.

Go to Turkey and complain that you are offended by the Muslim calls to prayer.

Go to India and complain that people presenting gifts to Ganesh offends you.

Go to Burma and complain that all those prayer wheels offend you.

58 posted on 12/12/2006 3:56:30 AM PST by Jim Noble (Chairman, FR Rudy for President 2008 Caucus)
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To: Jim Noble
What HOLIDAY, occurring in December every year, is traditionally celebrated by the placing and decoration of TREES?

Yule.

59 posted on 12/12/2006 3:57:47 AM PST by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 104-105)
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To: TheBigB
Now that people, and the ACLU, know the airport will cave if someone says "Boo!" it won't take long for someone else to complain about the trees.

I give it two days before someone else threatens to sue and the trees are back down again.

60 posted on 12/12/2006 3:59:09 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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