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What Thomas Jefferson learned from the Muslim book of jihad
The U.S Veteran Dispatch ^ | 1-05-07 | Ted Sampley

Posted on 01/05/2007 9:02:03 PM PST by smoothsailing

What Thomas Jefferson learned from the Muslim book of jihad

By Ted Sampley

U.S. Veteran Dispatch

January 2007

Democrat Keith Ellison is now officially the first Muslim United States congressman. True to his pledge, he placed his hand on the Quran, the Muslim book of jihad and pledged his allegiance to the United States during his ceremonial swearing-in.

Capitol Hill staff said Ellison's swearing-in photo opportunity drew more media than they had ever seen in the history of the U.S. House. Ellison represents the 5th Congressional District of Minnesota.

The Quran Ellison used was no ordinary book. It once belonged to Thomas Jefferson, third president of the United States and one of America's founding fathers. Ellison borrowed it from the Rare Book Section of the Library of Congress. It was one of the 6,500 Jefferson books archived in the library.

Ellison, who was born in Detroit and converted to Islam while in college, said he chose to use Jefferson's Quran because it showed that "a visionary like Jefferson" believed that wisdom could be gleaned from many sources.

There is no doubt Ellison was right about Jefferson believing wisdom could be "gleaned" from the Muslim Quran. At the time Jefferson owned the book, he needed to know everything possible about Muslims because he was about to advocate war against the Islamic "Barbary" states of Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia and Tripoli.

Ellison's use of Jefferson's Quran as a prop illuminates a subject once well-known in the history of the United States, but, which today, is mostly forgotten - the Muslim pirate slavers who over many centuries enslaved millions of Africans and tens of thousands of Christian Europeans and Americans in the Islamic "Barbary" states.

Over the course of 10 centuries, Muslim pirates cruised the African and Mediterranean coastline, pillaging villages and seizing slaves.

The taking of slaves in pre-dawn raids on unsuspecting coastal villages had a high casualty rate. It was typical of Muslim raiders to kill off as many of the "non-Muslim" older men and women as possible so the preferred "booty" of only young women and children could be collected.

Young non-Muslim women were targeted because of their value as concubines in Islamic markets. Islamic law provides for the sexual interests of Muslim men by allowing them to take as many as four wives at one time and to have as many concubines as their fortunes allow.

Boys, as young as 9 or 10 years old, were often mutilated to create eunuchs who would bring higher prices in the slave markets of the Middle East. Muslim slave traders created "eunuch stations" along major African slave routes so the necessary surgery could be performed. It was estimated that only a small number of the boys subjected to the mutilation survived after the surgery.

When American colonists rebelled against British rule in 1776, American merchant ships lost Royal Navy protection. With no American Navy for protection, American ships were attacked and their Christian crews enslaved by Muslim pirates operating under the control of the "Dey of Algiers"--an Islamist warlord ruling Algeria.

Because American commerce in the Mediterranean was being destroyed by the pirates, the Continental Congress agreed in 1784 to negotiate treaties with the four Barbary States. Congress appointed a special commission consisting of John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, and Benjamin Franklin, to oversee the negotiations.

Lacking the ability to protect its merchant ships in the Mediterranean, the new America government tried to appease the Muslim slavers by agreeing to pay tribute and ransoms in order to retrieve seized American ships and buy the freedom of enslaved sailors.

Adams argued in favor of paying tribute as the cheapest way to get American commerce in the Mediterranean moving again. Jefferson was opposed. He believed there would be no end to the demands for tribute and wanted matters settled "through the medium of war." He proposed a league of trading nations to force an end to Muslim piracy.

In 1786, Jefferson, then the American ambassador to France, and Adams, then the American ambassador to Britain, met in London with Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja, the "Dey of Algiers" ambassador to Britain.

The Americans wanted to negotiate a peace treaty based on Congress' vote to appease.

During the meeting Jefferson and Adams asked the Dey's ambassador why Muslims held so much hostility towards America, a nation with which they had no previous contacts.

In a later meeting with the American Congress, the two future presidents reported that Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja had answered that Islam "was founded on the Laws of their Prophet, that it was written in their Quran, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as Prisoners, and that every Musselman (Muslim) who should be slain in Battle was sure to go to Paradise."

For the following 15 years, the American government paid the Muslims millions of dollars for the safe passage of American ships or the return of American hostages. The payments in ransom and tribute amounted to 20 percent of United States government annual revenues in 1800.

Not long after Jefferson's inauguration as president in 1801, he dispatched a group of frigates to defend American interests in the Mediterranean, and informed Congress.

Declaring that America was going to spend "millions for defense but not one cent for tribute," Jefferson pressed the issue by deploying American Marines and many of America's best warships to the Muslim Barbary Coast.

The USS Constitution, USS Constellation, USS Philadelphia, USS Chesapeake, USS Argus, USS Syren and USS Intrepid all saw action.

In 1805, American Marines marched across the dessert from Egypt into Tripolitania, forcing the surrender of Tripoli and the freeing of all American slaves.

During the Jefferson administration, the Muslim Barbary States, crumbling as a result of intense American naval bombardment and on shore raids by Marines, finally officially agreed to abandon slavery and piracy.

Jefferson's victory over the Muslims lives on today in the Marine Hymn, with the line, "From the halls of Montezuma to the shores of Tripoli, we will fight our country's battles on the land as on the sea."

It wasn't until 1815 that the problem was fully settled by the total defeat of all the Muslim slave trading pirates.

Jefferson had been right. The "medium of war" was the only way to put and end to the Muslim problem. Mr. Ellison was right about Jefferson. He was a "visionary" wise enough to read and learn about the enemy from their own Muslim book of jihad.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: islam; koran; mediabias; muslim; oldmediamissesiniraq; quran; selectivereporting
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To: smoothsailing

When I first heard of Ellison using Jefferson's copy, I knew that maroon didn't know his US history.


21 posted on 01/05/2007 9:27:05 PM PST by razorback-bert (Posted by Time's Man of the Year)
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To: smoothsailing

Good Post!
Technical point, he is using a translation of the Koran(spellings according to preference). The true Koran is, has been, and will continue to be in Arabic.
So much for Muslim wannabes.


22 posted on 01/05/2007 9:28:24 PM PST by TWhiteBear
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To: smoothsailing

Ellison To Use Quran Suggested By Radical Muslim Group

Ellison claims he got the idea of using a Quran owned by Thomas Jefferson for his swearing in from an anonymous person.

In fact the idea for the PR stunt was suggested to him by the Muslim American Society, a radical group founded by the Muslim Brotherhood. The MAS want to impose Sharia law on the United States...

http://www.sweetness-light.com/


23 posted on 01/05/2007 9:29:09 PM PST by Sam Hill
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To: smoothsailing

The name rang a bell, I think I've read some other articles by him but not for a while. Did you used to post some of his pieces?


24 posted on 01/05/2007 9:29:42 PM PST by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: jazusamo

When you are about to do something very historic...and invoke the name of Lincoln or Jefferson...you want to be sure of what you are doing. In this case...Ellison was likely told by some college professor in Minnisota of the Jefferson item and thought this would look good in the eyes of his public. You must remember...he is a trained lawyer...he is a manipulator of public media (he spent 8 years running a little show on a public radio station there in Minnisota...gaining his audience)...and he likely has no indepth knowledge of US history (most US Muslims don't). And just so we all remember this....he is a Sunni Muslim.


25 posted on 01/05/2007 9:32:19 PM PST by pepsionice
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To: alicewonders

The short answer is, IMHO, some people simply look for things to make issue of and start a fight over....


26 posted on 01/05/2007 9:35:53 PM PST by Army MP Retired (There Will Be Many False Prophets)
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To: smoothsailing
SIR WINSTON CHURCHILL ON ISLAM

"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy - which! is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog - there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.

A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity . The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.

Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists i! n the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science - the science against which it had vainly struggled - the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome."

Sir Winston Churchill

Died: 24 January 1965

27 posted on 01/05/2007 9:36:21 PM PST by lonestar (Me, too--Weinie)
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To: jazusamo
I think I may have in the past,although maybe you have just have seen his stuff elsewhere. He's very good, and has been active for many years since his Nam days.
28 posted on 01/05/2007 9:37:05 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

yep.....he's practicing on his keyboard to get back up to speed.......soon he'll have to slap McCain around some more


29 posted on 01/05/2007 9:38:02 PM PST by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: smoothsailing

Great history lesson. Assuming its all factual (and it all makes sense to me) what I can't understand is why we sit here in FReeper land reading this. Why wasn't our side educating the people as to why Jefferson had this Quran? Cowardice - that's the reason - plain and simple.


30 posted on 01/05/2007 9:40:31 PM PST by plain talk
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To: Pharmboy; PhiKapMom
This ties in to an earlier RevWar/Colonial History/General Washington List ping out, Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin, John Adams and James Madison: Young America’s Fight with Islamism, almost a Paul Harvey ending, eh?

If Ellison lurked, he might have a different read on Jefferson. Was Ellison trying to poke us in the eye for the Barbary Wars or did he outfox himself?

31 posted on 01/05/2007 9:41:38 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Saddam is Dead! Bush's Fault. [Pray for our patriot brother, 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub.])
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To: lonestar
Thanks for posting, lonestar! I hadn't read those words of Sir Winston in a while.
32 posted on 01/05/2007 9:41:39 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: saganite

Exactly!


33 posted on 01/05/2007 9:41:48 PM PST by Rte66
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68
Good.
34 posted on 01/05/2007 9:43:11 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

Good post


35 posted on 01/05/2007 9:43:35 PM PST by aynrandfreak (Who would turn out better if we split into two separate countries based on the '04 Presidential Map?)
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The Quran Ellison used was no ordinary book. It once belonged to Thomas Jefferson. . .[who] . . . needed to know everything possible about Muslims because he was about to advocate war against the Islamic "Barbary" states of Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia and Tripoli [to respond to their declaration of war against us and to halt their piracy and killing and enslavement of U.S. citizens].

And a big THANK YOU to the new Congressman for reminding us Muslim extremists have done it to us before! Now if someone would just tell his fellow Rats.

36 posted on 01/05/2007 9:45:10 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: pepsionice

Good points all. If this story gets any legs at all, which I doubt, he might regret this little show he put on. I guess we can only hope.


37 posted on 01/05/2007 9:45:37 PM PST by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: Army MP Retired

First of all, thank you for your service to our country, I appreciate it!

I think for someone like this man to find answers in Islam, he would have an innate hatred of America. It's easier for me to understand why someone in prison might be converted, someone with an inner rage against the system - but I don't trust someone who has enjoyed the opportunities this country offers and then puts their faith in Islam.

Such a man cannot have good intentions.


38 posted on 01/05/2007 9:46:47 PM PST by alicewonders
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To: alicewonders

Given Arab Muslims' identification with the slave trade (which still continues!), I can't figure out why any thinking Black individual would convert...


39 posted on 01/05/2007 9:51:20 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: lonestar

Sir Winston, if he were alive today, would probably reassess his opinion of Europe's ability to survive in he face of Islamism. They have abandoned the Christian religion and science's ability to protect them is worthless without the will to resist.


40 posted on 01/05/2007 9:51:26 PM PST by saganite (Billions and billions and billions-------and that's just the NASA budget!)
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