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Giuliani a tough conservative sell
AP on Yahoo ^ | 1/25/07 | Liz Sidoti - ap

Posted on 01/25/2007 8:32:31 PM PST by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON - Rudy Giuliani's star has hardly dimmed in the five years since terrorists attacked his city on Sept. 11, 2001, and he became a national hero _ the face of U.S. resolve at a time of tragedy.

The Republican dubbed "America's Mayor" hopes to ride that celebrity and his record at City Hall to the White House by emphasizing his leadership skills and embracing the strong-on-security, limited-government tenets of the GOP.

"If he can handle the scrutiny, and if events break his way, sure, he can win," said Fred Siegel, who wrote a Giuliani biography, "The Prince of the City."

Giuliani's quest to capture his party's presidential nomination won't be easy.

He's a moderate Republican from New York City, on the wrong side of social issues in the eyes of hard-core conservatives who are a crucial voting bloc in the primaries. His mayoral tenure was marked by criticism of an overzealous police force. He's linked to the city's scandal-plagued ex-police chief Bernard Kerik. His thicket of business interests could pose conflicts. He's been divorced twice.

"I sure have strengths and weaknesses," Giuliani said recently. "I think that sort of puts me in the same category as just about everybody else that's running. Are my strengths greater or my weaknesses worse? I don't know. You have to sort of examine that. That won't be the issue."

His challenge will be to remind voters of his take-charge attitude on Sept. 11 and his two-term mayoral reign, at the same time his main rivals _ Sen. John McCain (news, bio, voting record) of Arizona and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney _ no doubt will try to exploit his background and record. For now, both are trying to gauge how much of a threat he may be.

Giuliani, who formed a presidential exploratory committee last year, is betting that the Republican rank-and-file will look past his liabilities. His aides dismiss skeptics who say he has too many flaws to win over primary voters a year from now.

"I believe they'll look at the picture as a whole," said Tony Carbonetti, Giuliani's longtime political adviser. "This (New York) was an unmanageable city, and I think what people want today is a manager, someone to lead in difficult times and to lead in not-difficult times.

"We're going to continue to tell that story," he said.

Before Sept. 11, Giuliani was known as the hard-charging prosecutor-turned-politician who cleaned up Times Square, led the city out of fiscal despair and brought Republican rule back to the liberal mecca.

Giuliani, of course, made enemies in the process, but on Sept. 11 even his chronic critics were muted when he took charge amid the rubble of the World Trade Center's twin towers. To many, he became a picture of strength, a reminder of the resilience of the American spirit.

"He has a connection to that. He is unique. On the other hand you look at the politics and you say this is a problem," said Alex Vogel, a Republican strategist in Washington who is not affiliated with any presidential candidate.

"The question is: Can you win a Republican primary a different way? History keeps saying no. But history has never presented us with someone whose favorability numbers are as high as Rudy's."

Indeed, national polls have consistently shown him leading for the GOP nomination, and early surveys in key states show him ahead or competitive. He travels to one important state, New Hampshire, this weekend where he will give the keynote address at the state GOP's annual meeting.

For all the hype since 2001, Giuliani didn't start preparing for a presidential run in earnest until after November's elections. Thus, he has lagged behind McCain and Romney in courting fundraisers, setting up a national organization and hiring ground operatives in key states, although he has made progress on all fronts recently.

Giuliani's aides insist they're making strides toward filling out his campaign. They say he can raise the $80 million to $100 million necessary this year for a serious run. Name recognition, obviously, isn't an issue.

Neither, his supporters argue, is likability. They say he appeals to people across the political spectrum and in every region of the country, meaning he could expand the general election playing field. That, his backers say, makes him the Republican most likely to beat the presumptive Democratic front-runner, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York.

Perhaps.

But first he has to capture the GOP nomination _ and the big question is whether he can win over enough Republicans in states like Iowa and South Carolina, among the first nominating contests where voters are solid conservatives and could be turned off by his stance on social issues.

"Giuliani is going to have to convince people that he's more conservative than his record otherwise would suggest," said Peverill Squire, who teaches politics at the University of Iowa.

The former mayor's support for abortion rights, gay rights and gun control conflict with the hard-line positions of the GOP's right. His supporters say he's not as liberal on those issues as he's made out to be. Still, he's from New York _ and that alone rankles the party's conservative wing.

Despite that, Giuliani's backers contend _ and some Republican strategists agree _ that he could get support from fiscal conservatives because of his record of cutting taxes, curbing spending and promoting small government, particularly now when the base is smarting over the soaring federal deficit under Republicans.

And, with the country still at war, his link to Sept. 11 _ the brand of a strong leader _ could trump the base's concerns about his background and stand on social issues.

"Giuliani's national security credentials will allow him to span ideological divides in the Republican Party and win conservative votes," said Greg Strimple, a GOP strategist in New York who is neutral in the race.

Unknown is whether Giuliani can woo enough of those base Republican voters to win the nomination and, if not, whether he can make up the difference by attracting independents and Democrats.

"His opening could come if people really think that somebody like Hillary is running away with it, and if there's a perception that only Giuliani can beat her," said John Truscott, an unaffiliated Republican strategist in Michigan.

Another factor that could help Giuliani is how the primary calendar shakes out.

New Hampshire and Michigan hold early contests, and New Jersey, California, Illinois, Florida and other states viewed as more hospitable to a moderate may schedule their votes earlier in the year, perhaps lessening the importance of a strong showing for Giuliani in Iowa and South Carolina.

For all the obstacles, even folks with ties to Giuliani's opponents can't deny that the New Yorker has a shot.

Said Ken Khachigian of California, who served as a strategist for President Reagan and was with McCain in 2000: "I would never sell Giuliani short."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections
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To: PhiKapMom
I'm testing out a new version now. It's made out of north American Leftoright. It seems to be impervious so far...

:)
81 posted on 01/25/2007 9:17:16 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: freedomfiter2

My gut tells me you're not voting for him.


82 posted on 01/25/2007 9:18:33 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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To: FairOpinion
"If the choice is those two (Rudy or Hillary)....give me Hillary.

I couldn't believe it myself what my pupils had read. No one who backs Hillary can call himself/herself a Republican.

As others have clearly stated, if it comes down to between Hillary and Rudy, it's Rudy. Hillary must never be elected. NEVER!

83 posted on 01/25/2007 9:18:35 PM PST by baubau
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To: BigSkyFreeper

Yeah. Imagine the political ads if he were the candidate. Would you expect him to win?


84 posted on 01/25/2007 9:18:49 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: billorites

Bad Republican? lol

I guess I'll be the bad one if McCain is the nominee. I despise him. Will not vote for him.....please, Republican Party, don't do this to me!! It gives me nightmares....


85 posted on 01/25/2007 9:19:01 PM PST by Jrabbit ('scuse me??)
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To: Spiff

As I said before NO REAL CONSERVATIVE could possibly prefer Hillary.


No real conservative would work to make it a choice between hillary and rudy.


86 posted on 01/25/2007 9:19:03 PM PST by freedomfiter2 (“No, I have not supported that," Guiliani when asked about a ban on partial birth abortion)
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To: School of Rational Thought
Newt
87 posted on 01/25/2007 9:19:13 PM PST by onedoug
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To: Spiff

I don't think that it's a Rudy v. Hillary, I have seen what Rudy did in NYC during the 90's and I think that he'll continue the WOT the way it should be run. I do have problems with his pro-life views but I am more concerned with the ability of the US to finish the WOT. Otherwise we're all F'd

Andrew


88 posted on 01/25/2007 9:19:55 PM PST by alkuhn (2WTC73rd)
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To: Afronaut

WOW! That'll surely kill his chances. WOW! /s


89 posted on 01/25/2007 9:19:56 PM PST by onyx (DEFEAT Hillary Clinton, Marxist, student of Saul Alinsky & ally and beneficiary of Soros.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Bump.


90 posted on 01/25/2007 9:20:26 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: PhiKapMom
The problem wasn't conservatives staying home, but the unpopularity of George Bush that caused "Reagan Democarts" to vote Democratic or stay home. As a Pew Research Center exit poll indicated,

"As expected, the election turned out in large measure to be a referendum on President Bush and the war in Iraq -- bad news for Republicans. About six-in-ten voters (59%) said they were either dissatisfied (30%) or angry (29%) with the president. By more than two-to-one, those dissatisfied with Bush supported the Democratic candidate in their district (69%-29%); among those angry with the president the margin was more than fifteen-to-one (92%-6%).

Bush was much more of a drag on his party's candidates than was former President Clinton in 1994, the year that Republicans won control of Congress. More than a third (36%) of the electorate said they voted to oppose Bush; that compares with 27% who voted to oppose Clinton in 1994, and 21% in 1998, the year Congress impeached the president."
91 posted on 01/25/2007 9:20:33 PM PST by BW2221
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To: onyx
Thank you(s). It is insulting that so many here seem to believe that we need to be *told* who to support or who to oppose. Isn't that liberal thinking?(s)

Did I read that you are in Mississippi? That's neat to know. I am a fan of Haley - not so much Trent(g). But I'm in Utah - "don't count your Hatch before he chickens"(s)

92 posted on 01/25/2007 9:20:58 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: SierraWasp

Tell me what Pee Wee and Hitlery's hubsband have in common,

They're both stainmakers?


93 posted on 01/25/2007 9:21:09 PM PST by baubau
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To: Afronaut

Hey! Isn't that corrupt and disgraced Bernie Kerik of Giuliani-Kerik Associates (now renamed Giuliani Associates after Kerik was exposed)? Hmmmm...

94 posted on 01/25/2007 9:21:18 PM PST by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: kinoxi
I'll expect nothing more from the Democrats. It's only a matter of time before we see the Democrat attack ads. They'll be in the mud so fast, your head will spin. Most will see it for what it is, mudslinging. Most will associate him with being the mayor of the city that got attacked twice on 9/11, and being the mayor that rose the city up from the ashes of the Twin Towers.

To many, he's America's Mayor.

95 posted on 01/25/2007 9:22:14 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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To: Spiff

[Fifth time around]

So, who are you supporting?


96 posted on 01/25/2007 9:23:20 PM PST by IslandJeff (that for every right there is a duty, for every benefit an obligation)
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To: Sunsong
Yes, in MS and sometimes in CA and I love Haley too.
97 posted on 01/25/2007 9:24:19 PM PST by onyx (DEFEAT Hillary Clinton, Marxist, student of Saul Alinsky & ally and beneficiary of Soros.)
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To: Spiff

Freepers working in conjunction with the MSM to try and promote Rudy...it's almost comical.

When the AP calls Rudy a "a moderate Republican" we know what the really mean.


98 posted on 01/25/2007 9:26:38 PM PST by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.com/)
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To: Spiff
Yes sir!


99 posted on 01/25/2007 9:26:51 PM PST by Afronaut (Supporting Republican Liberals is the Undeniable End to Freedom)
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To: Spiff

Hey! Isn't that corrupt and disgraced Bernie Kerik of Giuliani-Kerik Associates (now renamed Giuliani Associates after Kerik was exposed)? Hmmmm...


He's as good at choosing friends as the Clintons.


100 posted on 01/25/2007 9:27:24 PM PST by freedomfiter2 (“No, I have not supported that," Guiliani when asked about a ban on partial birth abortion)
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