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'Original' great ape discovered [New genus "Missing Link" found!]
BBC ^ | 2/18/07 | Paul Rincon

Posted on 02/18/2007 11:40:54 PM PST by LibWhacker

Scientists have unearthed remains of a primate that could have been ancestral not only to humans but to all great apes, including chimps and gorillas.

The partial skeleton of this 13-million-year-old "missing link" was found by palaeontologists working at a dig site near Barcelona in Spain.

Details of the sensational discovery appear in Science magazine.

The new specimen was probably male, a fruit-eater and was slightly smaller than a chimpanzee, researchers say.

Palaeontologists were just getting started at the dig when a bulldozer churned up a tooth.

Further investigation yielded one of the most complete ape skeletons known from the Miocene Epoch (about 22 to 5.5 million years ago).

Salvador Moyà-Solà of the Miquel Crusafont Institute of Palaeontology in Barcelona and colleagues subsequently found parts of the skull, ribcage, spine, hands and feet, along with other bones.

They have assigned it to an entirely new genus and species: Pierolapithecus catalaunicus .

Monkey business

Great apes are thought - on the basis of genetic and other evidence - to have separated from another primate group known as the lesser apes some time between 11 and 16 million years ago (The lesser apes include gibbons and siamang).

It is fascinating, therefore, for a specimen like Pierolapithecus to turn up right in this window.

Scientists think the creature lived after the lesser apes went their own evolutionary way, but before the great apes began their own diversification into different forms such as orang-utans, gorillas, chimps and, of course, humans.

" Pierolapithecus probably is, or is very close to, the last common ancestor of great apes and humans," said Professor Moyà-Solà.

The new ape's ribcage, lower spine and wrist display signs of specialised climbing abilities that link it with modern great apes, say the researchers.

The overall orthograde - or upright - body design of this animal and modern-day great apes is thought to be an adaptation to vertical climbing and suspending the body from branches.

The Miocene ape fossil record is patchy; so finding such a complete fossil from this time period is unprecedented.

"It's very impressive because of its completeness," David Begun, professor of palaeoanthropology at the University of Toronto, Canada, told the BBC News website.

"I think the authors are right that it fills a gap between the first apes to arrive in Europe and the fossil apes that more closely resemble those living today."

Planet of the apes

Other scientists working on fossil apes were delighted by the discovery. But not all were convinced by the conclusions drawn by the Spanish researchers.

Professor Begun considers it unlikely that Pierolapithecus was ancestral to orang-utans.

"I haven't seen the original fossils. But there are four or five important features of the face, in particular, that seem to be closer to African apes," he explained.

"To me the possibility exists that it is already on the evolutionary line to African apes and humans."

Professor David Pilbeam, director of the Peadbody Museum in Cambridge, US, was even more sceptical about the relationship of Pierolapithecus to modern great apes: "To me it's a very long stretch to link this to any of the living apes," he told the BBC News website.

"I think it's unlikely that you would find relatives of the apes that live today in equatorial Africa and Asia up in Europe.

"But it's interesting in that it appears to show some adaptations towards having a trunk that's upright because it's suspending itself [from branches].

"It also has some features that show quadrupedal (four-legged) behaviour. Not quadrupedal in the way chimps or gorillas are, but more in the way that monkeys are - putting their fingers down flat," he explained.

During the Miocene, Earth really was the planet of the apes.

As many as 100 different ape species roamed the Old World, from France to China in Eurasia and from Kenya to Namibia in Africa.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: anthropology; ape; catalaunicus; evolution; godsgravesglyphs; great; hominins; missinglink; original; origins; palaeoanthropology; paleontology; pierolapithecus; piltdownman; primatology; spain
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To: zylphed
Which is that chimpanzees and humans are more closely related than gorillas and chimpanzees.

It doesn't look that way on the face of it. Lined up all 3 in a row, I'd pick out the two sloped-back hairy beasts with hands for feet as being more alike than the bare-skinned frail-framed body of a human.
41 posted on 02/19/2007 3:36:47 AM PST by joseph20
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To: zylphed
Because we have molecular (which is considered much more highly reliable, in the short term - eg, <100 mya) rather than simply morphological/behavioral evidence now.

I figured it must be something in the microscope that makes you think that humans and chimps are more alike than gorillas and chimps. Using your own two eyes and common sense, it sounds absurd you must admit!
42 posted on 02/19/2007 3:39:14 AM PST by joseph20
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To: LibWhacker

They found a monkey. This is news?


43 posted on 02/19/2007 3:47:37 AM PST by Tax-chick (Every "choice" has a direct object.)
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To: Tax-chick

I wonder how they know that these are not just the "elephant man" equivalents for monkeys?

Out of all the old monkey bones they dig up, they finally find a freak and automatically it's thought to belong to a species of it's own?


44 posted on 02/19/2007 3:52:15 AM PST by joseph20
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To: joseph20

Like the deformed dolphin recently, that "proved" dolphins evolved from 4-legged land animals.

People see what they want to see.


45 posted on 02/19/2007 3:54:19 AM PST by Tax-chick (Every "choice" has a direct object.)
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To: Tax-chick
They found a monkey.

They found an ape apparently :)

Is there a difference between monkeys and apes?

46 posted on 02/19/2007 3:54:48 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: LibWhacker

47 posted on 02/19/2007 3:56:07 AM PST by Alouette (Learned Mother of Zion)
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To: mewzilla

How interesting! Now I know :-).


48 posted on 02/19/2007 3:57:05 AM PST by Tax-chick (Every "choice" has a direct object.)
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To: Tax-chick

That critter's got a nice set of choppers, doesn't he? Wow.


49 posted on 02/19/2007 3:59:10 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: mewzilla
I just ran across this...

www.boneclones.com

For anyone who needs a conversation piece :)

50 posted on 02/19/2007 4:07:29 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: mewzilla; zylphed; ASA Vet
They found an ape apparently :)

Is there a difference between monkeys and apes?


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Interesting that, according to the link you posted, only gorillas, chimpanzees, orangutans and gibbons are considered to be apes. From the link:

Hominids are distinguished from apes mainly by mode of locomotion. While apes predominantly use all four limbs to move along the ground, hominids have developed upright bipedal walking -- that is, they walk erect, using only their hind limbs.

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There is also this definition provided by answers.com:

pon·gid (pŏn'jĭd)
n.
An anthropoid ape of the family Pongidae, which includes the chimpanzee, gorilla, and orangutan.

51 posted on 02/19/2007 4:08:33 AM PST by joseph20
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To: mewzilla

Yes, I wouldn't want to get too close to those teeth.


52 posted on 02/19/2007 4:11:49 AM PST by Tax-chick (Every "choice" has a direct object.)
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To: mewzilla

Now that's cool. Expensive, though.


53 posted on 02/19/2007 4:13:23 AM PST by Tax-chick (Every "choice" has a direct object.)
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To: LibWhacker
Oh, I thought they had found a genius missing link.
54 posted on 02/19/2007 4:14:47 AM PST by pax_et_bonum (I will always love you, Flyer.)
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To: LibWhacker
could have been

This is the point you realize it's NOT proof anymore, but conjecture.

Just like the major claim of evolution...it's just conjecture.

It amazing to see such smart people make all these wonderful discoveries, but turn into such gulible, unwise, dupes when it comes to claiming truth.

55 posted on 02/19/2007 4:16:57 AM PST by sirchtruth (No one has the RIGHT not to be offended...)
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To: joseph20
Here's a link on the subject from the Smithsonian...

The Human Origins Progam Resource Guide to Paleoanthropology

On the left side of the screen is a menu. Click on Primates, found under Primate Origins.

From the link:

The earliest monkeys and apes evolved from ancestral haplorhine (meaning "dry nosed") primates, of which the most primitive living representative is the tarsier. Tarsiers were previously grouped with prosimians, but many scientists now recognize that tarsiers, monkeys, and apes share some distinctive traits, and group the three together. Monkeys, apes, and humans -- who share many traits not found in other primates -- together make up the suborder Anthropoidea. Anthropoid primates are divided into New World (South America, Central America, and the Caribbean Islands) and Old World (Africa and Eurasia) groups. The platyrrhine (broad-nosed) monkeys represent the first, and the second is the catarrhine (downward-nosed) monkeys and apes. Humans belong to this second group.

57 posted on 02/19/2007 4:17:28 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Tax-chick

LOL. I've got a replica of a claw from a Deinonychus. It scares my cat.


58 posted on 02/19/2007 4:19:13 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: mewzilla

I'll bet it would!


59 posted on 02/19/2007 4:21:59 AM PST by Tax-chick (Every "choice" has a direct object.)
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To: LibWhacker
There's no "link" between man and apes. That's preposterous!

Signed,
This guy...


60 posted on 02/19/2007 4:28:37 AM PST by Hatteras
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