Mossburg 500(Vanity)

[Charlespg]

Have any Freepers Had experence with useing aftermarket stocks for a mossburg 500a 12ga ? (18 inch barrel)

I have one with the original factory stock but despite a slipon recoil pad it still beats on my shoulder a bit

[ASOC]

Did that, 675 is not too bad a price.

Now gotta see if legl in AK.

[telebob]

Remington as well as other ammo manufacturers produce reduced power loads, both buckshot and slugs. I've shot a lot of that ammo through my Mossberg 590 A1 and it does reduce felt recoil considerably. For instance, Remington claims a 40% reduction in felt recoil.

A typical full power 12 gauge load has a muzzle velocity of about 1600 feet per second. A reduced load will have a muzzle velocity of about 1200 feet per second. At personal defense distances, the BG will never know the difference.

Some law enforcement agencies also use reduced power rounds so the stuff is considered effective for the intended use plus it is less likely to over penetrate and harm innocent bystanders.

The bottom line, of course, is that a 12 gauge shotgun is a potent firearm and there's only so much you can do to tame the beast.

[Ramius]

I've got a Mossberg 500, 18.5 in barrel, and I've switched out the original stocks for a nylon pistolgrip in the back.

With that gun, it isn't about accuracy. :-)

I also learned the hard way that you *don't* want to shoot 3-in magnums with the pistol grip in place, at least not very many times. I do keep it loaded with 5 shots, set in the following order: 3 #6 2.5in hunting loads, then 2 #00buck/#6shot combo 3in mag.

I figure if I need shots 4 and 5, I won't care by then how much they hurt. And they do hurt. :-)

[Ramius]

Say... speaking of the safety on the mossberg 500... mine has what I understand is a common problem, and that is a broken thumb switch. Is there a better aftermarket safety switch for that thing?

[telebob]

Ask and you shall receive...

http://www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/store/ProductDetail.aspx?p=9476&title=MOSSBERG+500+METAL+SAFETY+BUTTON

[Cold Heart]

My Brownells catalog (2004)lists a safety button, military special, metal. $15.94

Regular safety button, plastic. $5.50

Brownells Office/Tech 641 623 5401
Orders 800 741 0015

[Ramius]

Excellent. Thanks!

[Ramius]

Wow... two answers in about ten minutes.

You know... this Internet thing is pretty cool. I'll bet it really catches on. :-)

[spunkets]

"Yup. F=MA. For every action there is an equal reaction."

It's the momentum(m*v) that results in recoil. Conservation of momentum means the gun must have the same momentum as the gas and lead lost. The lead carries a loy of momentum, but so does the hot gas. If the gun is heavier, it's speed will be proportionately less.

Chas... if you get a stock that has more of an angle than the original stock, it will reduce felt recoil. The reciever will sit higher when the guns sholdered.

[brazzaville]

Good evening.

I prefer my Remington 870 but I also have a 12 gauge 500 and a 20 gauge 500. The 12 gauge Mossy is a Defender, inexpensive and, as you said, lightweight. I can't shoot 3" shells through it for long. With 2 3/4 shells the recoil is more acceptable.

The 20 gauge is a sweety.

Michael Frazier

[Dad yer funny]

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[TaMoDee]

You are correct. Give me a "DUH"! for the equation.
action = reaction. Give me an "A".

[RunningWolf]

I taught myself to bird hunt with a 16 gage break over single shot, 1916 vintage if I remember correct. I think it was a Browning. Later I moved up to Dad's 'sweet 16'.

I was pretty good with a 45lb re-curve bow too :-)

[sig226]

FYI - Randy Weaver was tricked by the informants using the complexity of the law you are attempting to cite. A shotgun must have barrels of at least 18" length, and an overall length of 26". In a pump gun, the overall length minimum is rarely a problem. The action of the gun is long, often eight inches or close enough that the addition of any grip will exceed the 26" requirement. Weaver made a pistol grip shotgun from a side by side. He made sure the barrels were 18", but he didn't know about the overall length minimum. When he cut the stock to make the pistol grip, the gun was less than 26" overall length.

This is not a short barreled shotgun. An SBS is intended to be fired from the shoulder. A shotgun with short barrels and a pistol grip, like the one in post 5, is classed as 'Any Other Weapon,' AOW.

Since you are doing gunsmith work, I'll bet you also did not know that it is illegal for an FFL dealer to attach a pistol grip to a shotgun for a person under the age of 21, regardless of the overall length. The reason is that this gun is not intended to be fired from the shoulder. To be classed as a long gun, legal for sale to persons under the age of 21, the gun must be intended to be fired from the shoulder.

In an amusing example of stupid federal bureaucracy, you can legally sell the gun to an 18 year old, and you can legally sell the pistol grip to an 18 year old at the same time, as long as the gun has a shoulder stock affixed to it. The 18 year old can go in the parking lot and legally attach the pistol grip. You just can't sell it unless the shoulder stock is on the gun. This is addressed in the yellow book from the BATFE.

[sig226]

Get one of these: Knoxx COPstock.

This one is a folder. They also make a telescoping one that looks like the telescoping stock on the AR-15. A spring inside it absorbs some of the recoil and I assure that it works. It is not cheap, neither is the Choate stock with the pistol grip, and that does not reduce any recoil.

[Shooter 2.5]

Also try Gun Parts Corp. They're on the 'net. They also sell the elevator in case you're inclined to lengthen the tang so they will chamber the Mini-shells.
http://www.gunpartscorp.com/

[rt2beararms]

You bunch of non reading hacks first to reply!

The Barrel on his shotgun is 18 inches. That is LEAGAL. It is as short as it can be.

He has a stock on his shotgun. He does not like the light weight manufacture of the mosberg that lends its self to heavy recoil.

1)Get the choate full length shotgun stock it is solid and has a vertical grip instead of a drop comb. Check out www.AR15.com in the weapons forums. We have a great community.
2) Get a remington 870. It has a steel reciever and is much heavier. It is my choice.
3) OR get four or five slug shells, unscrew the but pad on the hollow factory stock. Put them in the hollow. It adds weight and dampens recoil.

[verity]

Increase the weight when doing your inclined bench presses. ;-)

[Atlas Sneezed]

If somebody advocates a non-compliant set-up for a firearm, might one run afoul of our friends in Washington?

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I don't see anyone advocating anything non-compliant. If the barrel is to be less than 18" (and/or OAL under 26"), then you need to file a Form 1 (and $200, fingerprints, etc) with the ATF BEFORE proceeding with the modification (before buying the short barrel or cutting down the current one).