Posted on 02/27/2007 11:04:32 PM PST by Jim Robinson
LOL - yeah, the mods will be after him!
/s
Islamofascists and Socialists (Liberals) make strange bedfellows, but they are united in purpose, even if they seem unaware of it.
There are some ironies here.
First, if Islamofascism, the more powerful of the two, eventually wins out, Socialists will not know what hit them. Liberals will be the first to go under radical Islamic law. So much for "tolerance".
Second, Liberals are waging ideological warfare against the very ones who save them. It's the freedom lovers, not the freedom haters, that can insure their survival.
If there were a conservative who had a chance to win, I would be all for him. I admit, I am obsessed with the dimocrats not seizing power in 2008. For the future of this country, nothing else matters at this point IMO.
Goldwater (Mr. Conservative) turned social-liberal.
Eisenhower turned against "the war machine".
Reagan was a union Democrat.
Giuliani turned a Liberal sewer in a more civil Liberal sewer, and he couldn't do it without getting elected by New Yorkers.
Politicians evolve.
Frankly, we have turned into a country of pansies.
I will add that, Guiliani is no pansy.
Jim, at the risk of being banned, I'm going to tell you how I really feel. If I am banned, I'd first like to thank you for the political home for these many years. It's been nice. And, if I may ask one boon, if you do ban me, leave this post up for others to read, if for no other reason than a favor to a FReeper who was in good standing up until Rudy announced his candidacy.
I find myself unable to remain silent while the owner repeatedly posts hysterical vanities, confuses political terms (socialism has zip to do with gay rights Jim) and resorts to lame and juvenile insults (Rooty tooty fresh and fruity) knowing that since he's the boss that no one will challenge him on it.
Over what? A Republican candidate for his party's nomination for the upcoming presidential election. Not just any candidate, but a good man who did wonders for our nation's largest city. He's not a liberal no matter how many times you claim he's a liberal. He's not a socialist no matter how many times you claim he's a socialist. He's not the anti-Christ Jim, he's really not.
He's a tried and proven executive, but of course results are now flippantly poo-pooed with a Musolini comparison about making the trains run on time. I guess when you don't like someone, they're damned if they do, and damned if they don't. If the trains had been late you'd hammer on the lack of efficiency under his watch. The trains ran on time, so it's because he ruled with an iron fist.
If there is any bright light in any of this, it's that you inadvertantly encourage me in that it's obvious that you really do believe Rudy is going to be the nominee unless something miraculous happens. I respect that you're trying to work that miracle for your guy, but I'm encouraged that you seem to believe that it's going to take a miracle.
One final note, just so we're clear. If by some chance we (those who have been supporting Rudy) are proven to have been wrong about Rudy at some future date, it's just that, we were wrong. We're not closet socialists seeking to undermine America. We're not secretly on Hillary's payroll, or recieving sexual favors from prostitutes hired by Dick Morris. We're not anti-Republican, or anti-American. We're just wrong. Whether you want to admit it or not, every candidate, Duncan Hunter included is an unknown quantity until he actually sits in the oval office.
Should you work your miracle, and Hunter send us into a recession as I fear he would, I know that you too will have the stones to stand up and say you were wrong.
You can't win from a conservative party by trying to out liberal the liberals. No conservative wants to support abortion, gay rights, gun control, McCain-Feingold, global warming, illegal immigration, etc., etc.
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INDEED. Thx.
Far tooo much truth for comfort in every line. Thx.
First, if Islamofascism, the more powerful of the two, eventually wins out, Socialists will not know what hit them. Liberals will be the first to go under radical Islamic law. So much for "tolerance".
Second, Liberals are waging ideological warfare against the very ones who save them. It's the freedom lovers, not the freedom haters, that can insure their survival.
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INDEED.
Actually, I figure that the puppet master globalist marxists have set the Jihadi's up to eradicate all other religions . . . and then will eradicate them to require all to worship the global dictator as The Bible outlines. Along the way, they use the Jihadi's to scare the world's citizens into a global government for safety and to decrease the bloodshed and chaos. A strategy straight from hell, literally.
It's a surefire recipe for disaster.
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INDEED. UTTER DISASTER.
Even an udder disaster as in an aged cow with mastitis that's been eating loco weed.
The internal struggle is against creeping socialism/Marxism.
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Except that the creeping Marxism/globalism has
ALREADY
gotten a death grip lock on:
1. The Senate
2. The Supreme Court
3. The universities
4. The media
5. Hollyweed
6. Most to all Large corporations
7. Some estimates say 30% or more of the command structure of the military
8. The State Dept
9. The CIA and NSA
10. The welfare systems
11. The FDA
12. A LOT of traditional mainline churches/denominations
13. Quite a number of State governments
14. Quite a number of regulatory, licensing bodies
15. The public social fabric gestalt that defines words and thereby reality--such as "progressive"--what a bassackwards 180 degrees lie that is! REGRESSIVE TO SODOM & GOHMORRA is the real truth.
16. . . .
We have more than a little catching up to do.
If you approve of abortion on demand, new campaign finance laws, lax immigration policies and more gun control laws Rudy is your man. He is not my choice by a long shot. Neither are McCain or Romney.
If you wish for others to read your post more widely, go ahead and post it as a "vanity." That would be interesting.
The man is a flaming lib.
You've been listening to a small minority of pro-Rudy posters who make it seem like they are unable to post pro-Rudy opinions on FR, which is nonsense, given the number of Rudy threads they post every day.
The only bannings I have seen are for cause - repeated violations of forum rules, as well as making completely unsubstantiated and unlinked allegations against another candidate. I have seen bitching about FR that normally is only seen on anti-freep sites. Yet those people are still posting.
JimRob has been more than forthcoming in allowing freewheeling debate at this point in the nomination process. This tends to be full-contact season. Too bad some folks try to turn that into martrydom - especially when those folks hardly have clean hands themselves.
What a superb post. Thank you for saying what so many have been thinking over the last few days as the words thrown around like so much confetti have been juvenile, to say the least.
Thank you for saying what I and others have been thinking. I stand with you and if you are banned for stating what you and a lot of us believe, then I want to be banned as well.
I support Rudy and will continue to support Rudy and if that means I get banned, then so be it. Not going to change my support and frankly, all the trashing has made my support for Rudy even stronger having to defend some of the most ridiculous charges and doing the research to refute.
Proud member of Team Rudy and of The Republican Party!
Well, I'm still here, so apparently you're correct on this. I'm extremely encouraged. I want to be clear, I don't necessarily agree on Rudy's positions on abortion or the second amendment. I am however convinced that nothing is going to change under a Rudy administration or a Hunter administration. These issues really aren't on my radar.
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