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Global warming story hits critical mass (We're all gonna die!!)
Summit Daily News (Colorado) ^ | March 13, 2007 | Bob Berwyn

Posted on 03/14/2007 3:43:29 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

KEYSTONE — Global warming is the hottest story of our time, and it will get even bigger as the full implications of melting ice caps and rising sea levels percolate through the media pipeline and into general public awareness, a panel of journalists said last weekend during the American Bar Association's environmental law conference.

The discussion was focused on how the media has covered the story and whether or not public perception of global warming has changed in recent months and years. Among the questions the panelists tried to answer is why it has taken so long for the story to reach critical mass.

Most of the panelists credited Al Gore's documentary, "An Inconvenient Truth," with helping to generate attention.

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Please Al Gore, profit of doom, save us from ourselves!!
1 posted on 03/14/2007 3:43:36 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
A draft version of the [IPCC] report says that, within a few decades, hundreds of millions of people will face water shortages, while tens of millions will be flooded out of their homes. Tropical diseases like malaria will spread, pests like fire ants will thrive and by 2050, polar bears will mostly be found in zoos. By 2080, hundreds of millions of people could face starvation, according to the IPCC draft report.

And when this doesn't happen, even a fraction of this wild claim? (Why am I even asking this; being a liberal means never having to explain yourself).

2 posted on 03/14/2007 3:50:17 PM PDT by randog (What the...?!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Among the questions the panelists tried to answer is why it has taken so long for the story to reach critical mass.

Maybe the public are rubes living in places like Albany where the mean temperature has been dropping.

1813-2000 Mean Annual Temperature Time Series
Station: ALBANY, NY
(from the United States Historical Climatology Network dataset)

3 posted on 03/14/2007 3:51:14 PM PDT by siunevada (If we learn nothing from history, what's the point of having one? - Peggy Hill)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I remember when Clinton has all these weather folks in DC for a big sell the Global Warming stick. This is on-going for many years.


4 posted on 03/14/2007 3:56:40 PM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

5 posted on 03/14/2007 4:01:28 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: siunevada; edcoil; randog

The Coming Global Cooling Crisis (from 1974)

http://www.junkscience.com/mar06/Time_AnotherIceAge_June241974.pdf


6 posted on 03/14/2007 4:02:26 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Can anyone calculate the carbon emissions generated by transporting these panelists to a Colorado ski resort and then pampering these do-nothings in an exclusive lodge. There must have been a lot of anguish in the room about the impending global warming cataclysm between the servings of frois de grois and rack of lamb.
7 posted on 03/14/2007 4:04:04 PM PDT by rockthecasbah (The Shillelagh resides in Heritage Hall)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Russian Scientists Forecast Global Cooling in 6-9 Years

http://www.mosnews.com/news/2006/08/25/globalcooling.shtml


8 posted on 03/14/2007 4:04:57 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

heh..


9 posted on 03/14/2007 4:06:58 PM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (Never argue with an idiot..they'll bring you down to their level, then beat you with experience..)
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To: siunevada

Thats is an odd graph. everyone that i have seen shown a up slope in those years. why is this one different?


10 posted on 03/14/2007 4:09:56 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* ?I love you guys?)
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To: randog
American Bar Association's environmental law conference.

AHA! At LAST we know what it's about!!

This will make the asbestos and tobacco suits look like chicken feed!

11 posted on 03/14/2007 4:11:21 PM PDT by Gorzaloon (Global Warming: A New Kind Of Scientology for the Rest Of Us.)
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To: Steve Van Doorn
Possibly because this one is an honest graph?

Just a thought.

12 posted on 03/14/2007 4:11:40 PM PDT by SAJ (debunking myths about markets and prices on FR since 2001)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Remember Teapot Dome? That scandal ran for forty years, maybe more. This is much bigger. This scandal will have repercussions for half a century only because our attention span as news consumers is much shorter these days.


13 posted on 03/14/2007 4:13:28 PM PDT by RightWhale (300 miles north of Big Wild Life)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The arctic has been completely ice-free in the past, which caused the polar bears to go extinct. Luckily their numbers recovered when the ice came back. </sarc>


14 posted on 03/14/2007 4:20:54 PM PDT by alnitak ("That kid's about as sharp as a pound of wet liver" - Foghorn Leghorn)
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To: SAJ

This one is different




This is the most common.

15 posted on 03/14/2007 4:20:55 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* ?I love you guys?)
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To: randog

Journalists and lawyers, coming together to solve the worlds problems. We're doomed...


16 posted on 03/14/2007 4:25:06 PM PDT by SwedishConservative
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To: siunevada

oh i see! it is from 1813 duh! I am slow.


17 posted on 03/14/2007 4:25:14 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* ?I love you guys?)
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To: Steve Van Doorn
This is the most common.

The good old hockey stick graph.

And we're all the rube pucks. /sarc

18 posted on 03/14/2007 4:27:04 PM PDT by Ole Okie
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Report Indicates Global Warming May Be Worse than We Think

Two new reports indicate that the global warming problem may be more widespread than heretofore thought. One report from National Geographic News asserts that temperatures on both Earth and Mars have been rising. Data from NASA’s Mars Global Surveyor and Odyssey mission in 2005 disclosed that the carbon dioxide "ice caps” near Mars’ south pole are shrinking.

The other report indicates that cosmic rays from exploded stars are decreasing. This is causing fewer clouds to form and allowing more sunlight to hit the planet, raising temperatures.

Former vice-president and internationally acclaimed climate expert, Al Gore, cited the reports as further evidence in support of drastic action aimed at cooling the planet. “It was bad enough when just the Earth was affected, but now it looks like the entire solar system may be in danger,” Gore proclaimed. “There is no time to lose. We must act before it is too late.”

Gore suggested that a “global climate czar” be appointed from among a list of persons nominated for both an Academy Award and Nobel Prize for work on climate change. “We need someone with the authority to brush aside the barriers to immediate action,” Gore said. “We can’t afford to allow a nostalgic reverence for archaic notions of property rights and individual freedom to be used to block the steps necessary to save the Earth. Everything and everyone must be strictly controlled if we want there to be a planet here for our grandchildren.”

read more...

http://www.azconservative.org/Semmens1.htm


19 posted on 03/14/2007 4:29:59 PM PDT by John Semmens
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Thats is an odd graph. everyone that i have seen shown a up slope in those years. why is this one different?

Could possbly be because it is a temperature history for Albany, New York, as opposed to the few places on the earth where temperture trends happen to be positive enough to make a global index look positive.

click yer clicker thang here >>> Data @ NASA GISS Surface Temperature Analysis Maps

All depends on the temperature datasets used and how you weight/adjust them constructing an index. [ssspt, just ignore that little man behind the curtain]

20 posted on 03/14/2007 4:34:02 PM PDT by ancient_geezer (Don't reform it, Replace it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
What in the US consumption/destruction of the environment has changed so much in the last six years?

[A] Either something dramatically changed, [B] all the world's scientist were stupid before that time... [C] or this his a bunch of political horse pookie that's tied to GWB's election as President.

Those are the only logical choices.

If [A], what changed and by how much?

If [B], how come the same scientists were stupid then and brilliant now?

If [C], why no MSM humble pie or Algore lynching?

21 posted on 03/14/2007 4:38:00 PM PDT by nctexan (Top 10 Presidential Reqs. for 2008 - see my homepage)
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To: ancient_geezer

I copied all your graphs. Yours are the best! I hope you don’t mind? The ‘most common’ one up there is from you.


22 posted on 03/14/2007 4:40:12 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* ?I love you guys?)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

I copied all your graphs. Yours are the best! I hope you don’t mind?

No problem, I stole them too, LOL.

The real culprits behind the GorebullWarming trends ;O)


23 posted on 03/14/2007 4:56:29 PM PDT by ancient_geezer (Don't reform it, Replace it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So let me get this straight. They had a panel discussion of idiot reporters chatting about their idiocy. Sounds like a circle jerk.


24 posted on 03/14/2007 5:00:00 PM PDT by bikerMD (Beware, the light at the end of the tunnel may be a muzzle flash.)
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To: John Semmens

My "Onion detector" is usually pretty strong, but I must admit I had to check to see if this one was satire. Pretty scary!


25 posted on 03/14/2007 5:06:01 PM PDT by Mygirlsmom (I practice Calorie Offset Trading. I eat a candy bar & pay my kid $10 bucks to run around the block)
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To: ancient_geezer

LOL!!


26 posted on 03/14/2007 5:09:13 PM PDT by CedarDave
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To: randog
Back in the 70s they were telling me how American overpopulation would result in mass starvation by the year 2000.

Sigh... Now I just wish I could lose 10 pounds.
27 posted on 03/14/2007 5:33:05 PM PDT by keats5 (tolerance of intolerant people is cultural suicide)
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To: keats5

I once heard something along the lines that the whole world's population could fit inside Texas and everyone would have several acres. Anyone know about that?


28 posted on 03/14/2007 5:46:06 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Newt Gingrich/John Bolton 2008)
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To: ancient_geezer
”The real culprits behind the GorebullWarming trends ;O)”


Cute : )

I still think it is these guys:

29 posted on 03/14/2007 5:51:10 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* ?I love you guys?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I dunno. I went to a different college which had it's own version of nonsense. We were all to eat soybeans vs cows because of all the babies we were going to make (which we didn't).


30 posted on 03/14/2007 5:53:39 PM PDT by keats5 (tolerance of intolerant people is cultural suicide)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Uh huh...

http://1984gunnyg.blogspot.com/2007/03/greatglobal-warming-swindle.html


31 posted on 03/14/2007 6:00:43 PM PDT by gunnyg
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I took the number for Texas sq miles from wiki-

268,581 sq mi

And mulitiplied it by 5280 and then multiplied that number by 12 and got the number

17,017,292,160

Which would be the number of sq inches contained in the area of Texas.

And then divided by the number 6,525,170,264. That's the world population according to cia.gov.

The answer I got on the WinXP calc is 2.6079460271.......

Draw your own conclusions.

32 posted on 03/14/2007 6:07:10 PM PDT by perfect stranger
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Global warming story hits critical mass

The Summer Solstice Approaches!


33 posted on 03/14/2007 6:10:16 PM PDT by ricks_place
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I'd say the "Global Warming" scam has peaked, except for the true believers in a glorious socialist future, and the usual useful idiots.


34 posted on 03/14/2007 6:58:48 PM PDT by TheDon (The DemocRAT party is the party of TREASON! Overthrow the terrorist's congress!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Killing Time; Beowulf; Mr. Peabody; RW_Whacko; honolulugal; gruffwolf; ...

FReepmail me to get on or off


Click pn POGW graphic for full GW rundown

Ping me if you find one I've missed.



35 posted on 03/14/2007 7:00:17 PM PDT by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: perfect stranger; 2ndDivisionVet

268,581 sq/mi X 640 acres/sq mile divided by 300,000,000 Americans = .153 acres per man woman and child

I do believe it was Rush who made this statement, and it was Americans, and not the world population


36 posted on 03/14/2007 7:03:28 PM PDT by digger48
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To: edcoil
"This is on-going for many years".

How true. I remember global freezing hysteria and starvation predictions due to the over population of the world. Just goes to show that the young can be lured into believing just about anything.
37 posted on 03/14/2007 7:13:09 PM PDT by Bronzy ( Religion of peace? Huh? I hear that every day.)
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To: perfect stranger

You forgot to square your 5280*12 factor -


(268,581 sq. miles * 4,014,489,600 sq. inches per sq. mile) / 6,525,170,264 = 165,239 sq. in. per person = 1,147 sq. ft. per person.


38 posted on 03/14/2007 7:15:56 PM PDT by CFC__VRWC (Go Gators! NCAA Football and Basketball Champions!)
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To: perfect stranger

I get 1167.5 square feet per person

5280 * 5280 = 2787870 square feet in square mile

2787870 * 268,581 = 7487608550400 square feet in Texas

7487608550400 / 6,525,170,264 = 1167.4962 sq ft / person

Not very spacious but better.


39 posted on 03/14/2007 7:24:50 PM PDT by UnChained
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To: digger48
If you extend the calculation you could fit the entire population of the world into TX and each person would have a square that is 33 ft 10.5 inches on a side.

(268,581 sq mi) x (2,747,840 sq ft/sq mi) divided by (6,525,170,264 persons) = 1147.5 sq ft per person in the world, which is the equivalent of a square that is 33 ft 10.5 inches on a side.

Not much space, but it is a surprising result nonetheless.

40 posted on 03/14/2007 7:29:51 PM PDT by DSP in CW
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"a panel of journalists said"
 
Yawwwwn...
 
 

41 posted on 03/14/2007 7:31:50 PM PDT by VxH (There are those who declare the impossible - and those who do the impossible.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
the American Bar Association's environmental law conference.

Bunch of lawyers discussing how they can make money from this hoax

42 posted on 03/14/2007 7:32:00 PM PDT by Chuckster (Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnoset)
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Riots in the streets, dogs and cats living together,
mass hysteria! Who ya gonna call?



Groundhog day man.
43 posted on 03/14/2007 7:35:42 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (theconservativecandidate@still2early.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
We're all gonna die!!

Very true!

44 posted on 03/14/2007 7:39:01 PM PDT by A. Pole (Kwarcowy: "Non cogito ergo sum!")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet


Riots in the streets, dogs and cats living together,
mass hysteria! Who ya gonna call?



Groundhog day man.
45 posted on 03/14/2007 7:44:20 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (theconservativecandidate@still2early.com)
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To: CFC__VRWC; UnChained; digger48
Thanks for your corrections. I knew there was something I missed.

I will blame my Nyquil dosage and a few errant sneezes and coughs for this discrepancy. LOL

46 posted on 03/14/2007 8:02:12 PM PDT by perfect stranger
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To: DSP in CW
you could fit the entire population of the world into TX and each person would have a square that is 33 ft 10.5 inches on a side.

Also consider the effects of skyscraper technology, building above ground and below, double decker highways with robot cars forming compressed virtual trains. Technology changes everything. The cliche "buy land, they aren't making any more" isn't really true, we're building more land all the time.


47 posted on 03/14/2007 9:44:21 PM PDT by Reeses
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To: DSP in CW
1147.5 sq ft per person

Wow, Singapore only has 1635.9 sq ft per person now. A cruise ship only uses 37 square feet of ocean per person, no square feet of land at all.

48 posted on 03/14/2007 9:57:07 PM PDT by Reeses
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To: All

49 posted on 03/14/2007 9:59:38 PM PDT by IPWGOP (I'm Linda Eddy... I'm the cartoonist for iowapresidentialwatch.com)
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To: VxH

I love the graph but it's not absolutely obvious at first glance what it means.

The temperature rises or falls, and then the CO2 level rises or falls - some four hundred years later!


50 posted on 03/15/2007 4:57:46 AM PDT by agere_contra
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