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The Coulter Hoax: How Ann Coulter Exposed the Intelligent Design Movement
Talk Reason (from Skeptical Inquirer) ^ | March 14, 2007 | Peter Olofsson

Posted on 03/31/2007 1:48:09 PM PDT by EveningStar

In the summer of 2006, I heard that a new book called Godless presented an insightful and devastating criticism of the theory of evolution. Although I learned that its author, Ann Coulter, is not a scientist but a lawyer turned author and TV pundit, she nevertheless appeared to be an intelligent and well-educated person, so I started reading. At first I was puzzled. There did not seem to be anything new; only tired and outdated antievolution arguments involving moths, finches, and fruit flies. But it wasn't until Coulter dusted off the old Piltdown man story that I suddenly realized: it was a hoax! And it was brilliant...

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: anncoulter; antifreepers; antiscience; coulter; creation; creationism; creationistwhinefest; cutnpaste; evolution; evolutionism; fsmdidit; hogwash; idjunkscience; intelligentdesign; skankybitch; textdump
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Wow. This guy is really stirring the pot. What say all of you?
1 posted on 03/31/2007 1:48:12 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar
What say all of you?

I say we need a picture!

 

2 posted on 03/31/2007 1:50:50 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger; All

ping

(who is your counterpart, DLR?)


3 posted on 03/31/2007 1:52:58 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

I don't see it.


4 posted on 03/31/2007 1:54:15 PM PDT by ExGeeEye (To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women.)
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To: jellybean

ping


5 posted on 03/31/2007 1:54:45 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: Incorrigible
Now that I see. Thank you.
6 posted on 03/31/2007 1:54:58 PM PDT by ExGeeEye (To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women.)
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To: Howlin; onyx; Clemenza; Petronski; GummyIII; SevenofNine; veronica; Xenalyte; CheneyChick; ...

Misc ping list


7 posted on 03/31/2007 1:55:56 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

I think he is deperately trying a bit too hard to attack those who don't buy into macro-evoloution. His points sound pretty weak to me.


8 posted on 03/31/2007 1:57:48 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: EveningStar

The evo's are getting desperate, they know their pseudo science is nothing but junk, and that Coulter has put another nail in the coffin.


9 posted on 03/31/2007 1:58:37 PM PDT by Axlrose
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To: EveningStar

Actually, I hate to say it, but this piece is virtually unreadable. He's a lousy writer (maybe because English isn't his primary language). And there's really no argument at all. Just faked up astonishment that ANYONE could possibly question the General Theory of Evolution.

There's nothing here to argue with, because there's no argument to refute. Just mush.


10 posted on 03/31/2007 2:06:42 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: EveningStar

'What say all of you?" - Say of what, or of whom? of Peter Olofsson? - sounds interesting, could be nice to meet some day. Of ID'ers? - good for laughing at, otherwise, per Dante, "They aren't worth a word. Just glance - and pass".


11 posted on 03/31/2007 2:07:01 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: Axlrose

"they know their pseudo science is nothing but junk"

I'm sure they dont see it that way.

The earth is 4 billion years old. Lots of time for changes.


12 posted on 03/31/2007 2:07:47 PM PDT by WOSG (The 4-fold path to save America - Think right, act right, speak right, vote right!)
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To: EveningStar

Mr. Olofsson is either himself satirizing Coulter's inane nonsense or he's fallen into the trap many rational people fall into: Thinking that ID is so patently ridiculous that its proponents don't actually believe such nonsense.


13 posted on 03/31/2007 2:07:47 PM PDT by AntiGuv ("..I do things for political expediency.." - Sen. John McCain on FOX News)
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To: AntiGuv
Mr. Olofsson is either himself satirizing Coulter's inane nonsense or he's fallen into the trap many rational people fall into:

I'll go with the former.

14 posted on 03/31/2007 2:09:53 PM PDT by freespirited (Resentment, redistribution, and re-education. The three Rs of liberalism.)
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To: Axlrose
The evo's are getting desperate, they know their pseudo science is nothing but junk, and that Coulter has put another nail in the coffin.

Sorry, that happens not to be the case.

Here is a nice link for the lurkers: Index of Creationist Claims.

15 posted on 03/31/2007 2:10:22 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: Incorrigible

Hmmm...Let's see...Watch Ann say something or watch Rosie say something. I think I just made up my mind.


16 posted on 03/31/2007 2:11:52 PM PDT by econjack
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To: EveningStar

I do agree with the general theme presented here. Coulter is an astute businesswoman and probably doesn't believe half the stuff she spouts. She has just found a nice niche market for herself.


17 posted on 03/31/2007 2:12:11 PM PDT by Aikonaa
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To: EveningStar

Ann also has said that the best way to deal with Islam is to turn them into Christians.


18 posted on 03/31/2007 2:12:22 PM PDT by CIDKauf (No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar.. Abe)
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To: plain talk
I think he is deperately trying a bit too hard

He gives Coulter a huge amount of credit for some very thorough subtlety. Not that she isn't capable, but I think she was just throwing red meat out there for her readers who she knows want to read this.

As for her own views, well I tend to have a lot more respect for those who just espouse out and out creationism rather than try and redefine science to meet their political goals.

The West spent the last 500 years developing and teaching by the scientific method. Islam spent that last 500 years teaching religion in schools. Enough said.

19 posted on 03/31/2007 2:13:21 PM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (I don't care what side of the debate you are on: Weather is not Climate)
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To: EveningStar

My whole theory about evolution is although most mammals, fish and whatnot have two eyes, legs, arms, and similar gentialia, there is no way to prove that any of these beings are connected unless you were there to witness it.

Sure you can do DNA tests and find similarities, but in the end it all comes down to having humans suddenly appearing out of seemingly nowhere with these incredible inventive genius minds.

It`s like having dolphins and all of a sudden there is this mutation of dolphins that can understand and invent math and physics, it just doesn`t happen, it`s impossible. It`s never happened in any species, there is no evidence it ever happened other than humans.

The primates that are around today, Gorillas, Chimps, Orangutans, seem to have all survived when Cro-magnon, Neaderthals have not yet Cro-Magnons and Neaderthals were supposedly smarter than all those primates yet they died off.

Maybe I`m writing a foolish post, but to make it brief, it seems quite impossible to me that humans could "evolve" from all that. It just doesn`t happen. If it did, we would have quite a number of other species with the mental abilities of humans. Bears, cats, dogs all have claws.. Yet only humans have this mental ability.

You would think at LEAST one other species would have the same, but no. None exist.


20 posted on 03/31/2007 2:15:49 PM PDT by Screamname (The only reason time exists is so everything doesn`t happen all at once - Albert Einstein)
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