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The Coulter Hoax: How Ann Coulter Exposed the Intelligent Design Movement
Talk Reason (from Skeptical Inquirer) ^ | March 14, 2007 | Peter Olofsson

Posted on 03/31/2007 1:48:09 PM PDT by EveningStar

In the summer of 2006, I heard that a new book called Godless presented an insightful and devastating criticism of the theory of evolution. Although I learned that its author, Ann Coulter, is not a scientist but a lawyer turned author and TV pundit, she nevertheless appeared to be an intelligent and well-educated person, so I started reading. At first I was puzzled. There did not seem to be anything new; only tired and outdated antievolution arguments involving moths, finches, and fruit flies. But it wasn't until Coulter dusted off the old Piltdown man story that I suddenly realized: it was a hoax! And it was brilliant...

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: anncoulter; antifreepers; antiscience; coulter; creation; creationism; creationistwhinefest; cutnpaste; evolution; evolutionism; fsmdidit; hogwash; idjunkscience; intelligentdesign; skankybitch; textdump
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To: Coyoteman

Here are some better links for the thinkers.

http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/qa.asp

http://www.icr.org/


21 posted on 03/31/2007 2:19:45 PM PDT by protest1
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To: EveningStar

I think of Ann as an excellent comedic entertainer, who uses political topics.

Rather like Carlos Medicino who uses ethnic topics.

To neither would I go for science.


22 posted on 03/31/2007 2:20:27 PM PDT by donmeaker (The speed of light is 186,234 miles per second. Not just a good idea, its the LAW!)
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To: EveningStar
I think Dr. Peter Olofsson has been living in his academic bubble way to long

He thinks he's making a brilliant observation about Coulter which everybody else is not getting, except we are all rolling our eyes trying not to be embarrassed for him

He's definitely wearing his "I'm a geek button"

23 posted on 03/31/2007 2:22:47 PM PDT by Popman ("What I was doing wasn't living, it was dying. I really think God had better plans for me.")
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To: AntiGuv

I think it is satire, it's an anti-creationist site but the author didn't call Ann a Nazi which is the standard leftie tactic, but is friendly and well done ...

"In conclusion, Coulter has written a biting satire over the trend of anti-intellectualism that clouds part of the conservative ideology, which is otherwise based on principle and reason. If I have any objection to Coulter's piece, it would be that it is a bit lengthy, but perhaps this too is part of the satire, as some antievolution pieces tend to be pretty verbose. There are also some things I don't fully understand, for example several references to bestiality and some seemingly nonsequitur remarks about Cher and Elton John. Considering how wonderfully multilayered Coulter's writing is, I am sure there is a perfectly logical explanation."

If only marxism and other phony theories were as dismissed as creationism was in the Academy.

He reminds us that we can believe in God and evolution at the same time.


24 posted on 03/31/2007 2:23:38 PM PDT by WOSG (The 4-fold path to save America - Think right, act right, speak right, vote right!)
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To: Coyoteman
Here is a nice link for the lurkers: Index of Creationist Claims.

I thought the article was about ID...you appear to think it's about creationists. Was there 2 articles?

25 posted on 03/31/2007 2:25:52 PM PDT by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: EveningStar

To me evolution does exist but for animals, but when it comes to humans there was something else involved. You cannot get the human mind from evoution, it`s impossible. It`s too far out there, too far from the norm. To me what the bible says is true, it came from God.


26 posted on 03/31/2007 2:28:03 PM PDT by Screamname (The only reason time exists is so everything doesn`t happen all at once - Albert Einstein)
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To: EveningStar

Initially ID appealed to me as a believer, but as I read it I was less than impressed with the rigor with which it was presented. Some of the presentations reminded me of stories that liberals tell to gain sympathy for a particular cause.


27 posted on 03/31/2007 2:28:24 PM PDT by Rockitz (This isn't rocket science- Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: Coyoteman

It would be nice to see a similar debunking site:
"Index of Liberal Claims"


28 posted on 03/31/2007 2:30:25 PM PDT by WOSG (The 4-fold path to save America - Think right, act right, speak right, vote right!)
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To: EveningStar

When another species other than human can come up with this, then I`ll believe humans did evolve.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEaKjRyPj


29 posted on 03/31/2007 2:30:34 PM PDT by Screamname (The only reason time exists is so everything doesn`t happen all at once - Albert Einstein)
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To: All
"If evolution is true, then God created evolution." Ann Coulter.

Why is it so hard for "scientists" to accept that?

the trend of anti-intellectualism that clouds part of the conservative ideology

Oh really, then why is this piece by Prof. Olofsson the only response to Ms Coulter that is not screaming Racist! Bigot! Homophobe!

IOW, why do the self-appointed "intellectual" liberals make Ms Coulter the "issue" instead of responding to what she postulates?

30 posted on 03/31/2007 2:30:44 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Screamname

Whoops, here is the video....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEaKjRyPj


31 posted on 03/31/2007 2:31:48 PM PDT by Screamname (The only reason time exists is so everything doesn`t happen all at once - Albert Einstein)
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To: EveningStar

My brain is in a twist!

Is this guy saying Coulter busts creation/ID
by busting evolution? (scratching head)

That is pretzel logic.


32 posted on 03/31/2007 2:34:24 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Axlrose

It's certainly not an argument someone confident of their science would make.


33 posted on 03/31/2007 2:36:51 PM PDT by Tribune7 (A bleeding heart does nothing but ruin the carpet)
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To: Jo Nuvark
My brain is in a twist! Is this guy saying Coulter busts creation/ID by busting evolution? (scratching head) That is pretzel logic.

It's evo logic. (same thing)

34 posted on 03/31/2007 2:37:27 PM PDT by Tribune7 (A bleeding heart does nothing but ruin the carpet)
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To: Screamname
"The url contained a malformed video id."

Any monkey can pound out a bad url on a keyboard. ;^)

35 posted on 03/31/2007 2:39:19 PM PDT by AntiGuv ("..I do things for political expediency.." - Sen. John McCain on FOX News)
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To: Tribune7

Evo Logic? Oh good. I thought my dna had misfired.


36 posted on 03/31/2007 2:39:23 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: EveningStar

Peter Olofsson, Visiting Associate Professor

Education 2002 Docent (Swedish post-graduate degree) mathematical statistics, Chalmers Institute of Technology, Gothenberg, Sweden

1994 Ph.D. mathematical ststistics, Gothenburg University, Sweden

1989 M.S., mathematical statistics, Gothenburg University, Sweden



"Intelligent Design and Mathematical Statistics: A Troubled Alliance. Submitted, 2007"

Press Here

37 posted on 03/31/2007 2:39:36 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: AntiGuv

[...Any monkey can pound out a bad url on a keyboard...]

Proves evolution.


38 posted on 03/31/2007 2:40:03 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Axlrose

How old is the earth?


39 posted on 03/31/2007 2:40:04 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar
If the current crop of books want to keep drumming up the old piltdown, peking, zinj. etc. fossils it's the same old fakes.

When they start reading what's out there about c14 dating methods, geologocal columns, circulart dating (rocks date fossils, fossils date rocks) and and poly-strat fossils as well as hundreds of "out of place" fossil finds, the real leading edge studies will be discussed.

Until then there are few who are studied enough to present it (self included). The problem is not that enough evidence is available to leave macro-evolutionary theory in shambles, it's that if any one of science talks about it they lose their jobs and have their grants withdrawn.

my two cents.

40 posted on 03/31/2007 2:40:13 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (I buy gas for my Hummer with the Carbon Offsets I sell on Ebay!)
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