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The Coulter Hoax: How Ann Coulter Exposed the Intelligent Design Movement
Talk Reason (from Skeptical Inquirer) ^ | March 14, 2007 | Peter Olofsson

Posted on 03/31/2007 1:48:09 PM PDT by EveningStar

In the summer of 2006, I heard that a new book called Godless presented an insightful and devastating criticism of the theory of evolution. Although I learned that its author, Ann Coulter, is not a scientist but a lawyer turned author and TV pundit, she nevertheless appeared to be an intelligent and well-educated person, so I started reading. At first I was puzzled. There did not seem to be anything new; only tired and outdated antievolution arguments involving moths, finches, and fruit flies. But it wasn't until Coulter dusted off the old Piltdown man story that I suddenly realized: it was a hoax! And it was brilliant...

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: anncoulter; antifreepers; antiscience; coulter; creation; creationism; creationistwhinefest; cutnpaste; evolution; evolutionism; fsmdidit; hogwash; idjunkscience; intelligentdesign; skankybitch; textdump
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41 posted on 03/31/2007 2:42:21 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Coyoteman
Long time no see C-man. Part of it's my fault, I've pretty much stayed away from the CREVO threads. :o)

Hope all is well.

42 posted on 03/31/2007 2:43:22 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (I buy gas for my Hummer with the Carbon Offsets I sell on Ebay!)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
He gives Coulter a huge amount of credit for some very thorough subtlety.

Actually he doesn't - the whole piece is an attack on Coulter's idiocy through satire of his own.

43 posted on 03/31/2007 2:43:37 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: EveningStar
Considering the source...no surprises. TalkReason.org is a web site to anti-creationsim/anti-Intelligent Design. In fact, that is the only reason the site exists.

From their site (notice the openness to debate and discussion of the issues)

Call for Papers

TalkReason provides a forum for the publication of papers with well-thought out arguments against creationism, intelligent design, and religious apologetics.

Papers whose goal is to promote creationism, Intelligent Design, irreducible complexity, the compatibility of the Bible with science, and religious apologetics, exegesis or papers arguing against established scientific theories such as the evolution theory will not be accepted.

44 posted on 03/31/2007 2:45:52 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: LiteKeeper

I'd never heard of this site until today. I saw this posted at another board and thought that people here would be interested in it.

The article was originally published by Skeptical Inquirer.


45 posted on 03/31/2007 2:49:47 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: LiteKeeper
From their site (notice the openness to debate and discussion of the issues)

Gosh, how shocking and evil - a website devoted to promoting a certain point of view.

So I'm guessing if I send papers promoting evolution to http://www.answersingenesis.org they'll be happy to publish them?

46 posted on 03/31/2007 2:52:10 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: EveningStar
I happen to be an odd breed myself, apparently.

I'll actually read a book before I'll go out on a limb and make comments about it. Despite my busy schedule, I had read the entire book during the first week that it was available.

A number of FReepers last Summer were chastising Ann Coulter for expressing her opinions on this matter clearly without ever having read what she wrote.

Anyhow, Ann was not being tongue in cheek with her sections on Evolutionary Theory being taught as if it were Scientific fact in schools.

She was calling people out to defend their views.

Most of the FReepers who disagreed with her back in those threads had obviously not read her book. That was where the irony truly was. People made up their minds without viewing all of the evidence.

47 posted on 03/31/2007 2:54:29 PM PDT by Radix (Reasonable people often can and do disagree.)
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To: WOSG
we can believe in God and evolution at the same time

I never understood the either-or philosophy either.

48 posted on 03/31/2007 2:57:45 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: Screamname
Sure you can do DNA tests and find similarities, but in the end it all comes down to having humans suddenly appearing out of seemingly nowhere with these incredible inventive genius minds.

I think it's a matter of -- for lack of a better term -- a tipping point. Once the complexity of the brain a certain group of primates reached a certain point, a whole range of mental abilities -- including, perhaps, something to do with the soul -- developed.

49 posted on 03/31/2007 3:00:19 PM PDT by Celtjew Libertarian (WWGD -- What would Groucho do?)
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To: EveningStar
[ What say all of you? ]

I'd say the leanest meanest RINO exposer of all time..
Exposed another one..

50 posted on 03/31/2007 3:01:42 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: hosepipe

I don't understand your post.


51 posted on 03/31/2007 3:04:07 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: Jo Nuvark
My brain is in a twist!

LOL. The whole thing is completely over my head, Jo.

52 posted on 03/31/2007 3:06:48 PM PDT by Bahbah (Regev, Goldwasser & Shalit, we are praying for you.)
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To: Coyoteman

I don't think Coulter is smart enough to write convoluted satire.

It would certainly be lost on her target audience.


53 posted on 03/31/2007 3:08:11 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (Never Let a Fundie Near a Textbook. Teach Evolution!)
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To: WOSG
It would be nice to see a similar debunking site: "Index of Liberal Claims"

Are you logged in? :)
54 posted on 03/31/2007 3:09:19 PM PDT by GovernmentIsTheProblem (Capitalism is the economic expression of individual liberty. Pass it on.)
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To: Screamname

"The primates that are around today, Gorillas, Chimps, Orangutans, seem to have all survived when Cro-magnon, Neaderthals have not yet Cro-Magnons and Neaderthals were supposedly smarter than all those primates yet they died off."

And we're supposed to believe that only one tribe of apes started evolving after migrating out of the woods of Africa and into the grasslands hundreds of millions of years ago. And of course, this process never repeated itself at a later point in time. In reality, the process should be ongoing. We should see transitional Ape-Like creatures today from Apes that migrated to grasslands, say, 10 million years ago. At some point over the course of hundreds of millions of years the process would repeat itself at a later point in time.


55 posted on 03/31/2007 3:10:30 PM PDT by ScottfromNJ
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To: Celtjew Libertarian

Like my brother was telling me, it all comes down to memory. The amount that humans can memorize is insane, it`s just impossible. There is something else at work there. There are tons of animals who have bigger brains, more "folds" yet you don`t see them memorizing to the extent of humans. By the time you finish reading this, it will be one more in billions of things you have memorized, yet the brain you have is a tad larger than your clenched fist. It`s impossible, there is something else involved. Like you said, it`s the soul, something that is out of phsyical limitations that is responsible.


56 posted on 03/31/2007 3:12:56 PM PDT by Screamname (The only reason time exists is so everything doesn`t happen all at once - Albert Einstein)
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To: Strategerist

In actuality they regularly interact with letters and papers that are negative...and they are posted.


57 posted on 03/31/2007 3:12:58 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: Incorrigible

Thank goodness you did not pick a picture of Johnny Winter.


58 posted on 03/31/2007 3:14:27 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (In this (political) War, Republicans are gutless appeasers. -- Ann Coulter)
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To: kcvl

>> "Intelligent Design and Mathematical Statistics: A Troubled Alliance. Submitted, 2007"

It gets better when mathematicians engage in satire. Of course Olofsson's foundation of reason is based on the theories that underpin the ideal discipline of mathematics. Is it any coincidence the tools of mathematics are to us disposed or is the science of numbers something that evolves and is merely a petal to the fruits of one's ego?

Unfortunately for Olofsson, nothing exists in his scientific realm that provides the methods to either prove or disprove any theory of state other than the one he's currently experiencing or expressing.


59 posted on 03/31/2007 3:15:15 PM PDT by Gene Eric
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem

Cute ... :-) ... but the organization of it with a claim counter-claim was quite effective. Maybe we need a media-wiki site to crate such a debunking mechanism.


60 posted on 03/31/2007 3:15:39 PM PDT by WOSG (The 4-fold path to save America - Think right, act right, speak right, vote right!)
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