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Gunman's writings were disturbing (Eagle Scout saves his life by applying a tourniquet from a cord)
Chron.com ^ | 04.17.07 | MATT APUZZO

Posted on 04/17/2007 2:22:21 PM PDT by Coleus

BLACKSBURG, Va. — The gunman in the Virginia Tech massacre was a sullen loner who alarmed professors and classmates with his twisted, blood-drenched creative writing and left a rambling note in his dorm room raging against women and rich kids.  A chilling picture emerged Tuesday of Cho Seung-Hui — a 23-year-old senior majoring in English — a day after the bloodbath that left 33 people dead, including Cho, who killed himself as police closed in. News reports said that he may have been taking medication for depression and that he was becoming increasingly violent and erratic. Despite the many warning signs that came to light in the bloody aftermath, police and university officials offered no clues as to exactly what set Cho off on the deadliest shooting rampage in modern U.S. history.

"He was a loner, and we're having difficulty finding information about him," school spokesman Larry Hincker said.A student who attended Virginia Tech last fall provided obscenity- and violence-laced screenplays that he said Cho wrote as part of a playwriting class they both took. One was about a fight between a stepson and his stepfather, and involved throwing of hammers and attacks with a chainsaw. Another was about students fantasizing about stalking and killing a teacher who sexually molested them. "When we read Cho's plays, it was like something out of a nightmare. The plays had really twisted, macabre violence that used weapons I wouldn't have even thought of," former classmate Ian McFarlane, now an AOL employee, wrote in a blog posted on an AOL Web site. He said he and other students "were talking to each other with serious worry about whether he could be a school shooter."

"We always joked we were just waiting for him to do something, waiting to hear about something he did," said another classmate, Stephanie Derry. "But when I got the call it was Cho who had done this, I started crying, bawling." Professor Carolyn Rude, chairwoman of the university's English department, said Cho's writing was so disturbing that he had been referred to the university's counseling service. "Sometimes, in creative writing, people reveal things and you never know if it's creative or if they're describing things, if they're imagining things or just how real it might be," Rude said. "But we're all alert to not ignore things like this."

She said she did not know when he was referred for counseling, or what the outcome was. Rude refused to release any of his writings or his grades, citing privacy laws. The counseling service refused to comment. Cho — who arrived in the United States as boy from South Korea in 1992 and was raised in suburban Washington, D.C., where his parents worked at a dry cleaners — left a note in his dorm room that was found after the bloodbath. A government official, who spoke of condition of anonymity because he had not been authorized to discuss details of the case, said the note had been described to him as "anti-woman, anti-rich kid." The Chicago Tribune reported on its Web site that the note railed against "rich kids," "debauchery" and "deceitful charlatans" on campus. ABC, citing law enforcement sources, said that the note, several pages long, explains Cho's actions and says, "You caused me to do this."

Citing unidentified sources, the Tribune also said Cho had recently set a fire in a dorm room and had stalked some women. Monday's rampage consisted of two attacks, more than two hours apart — first at a dormitory, where two people were killed, then inside a classroom building, where 31 people, including Cho, died. Two handguns — a 9 mm and a .22-caliber — were found in the classroom building. The Washington Post quoted law enforcement sources as saying Cho died with the words "Ismail Ax" in red ink on one of his arms, but they were not sure what that meant. According to court papers, police found a "bomb threat" note — directed at engineering school buildings — near the victims in the classroom building. In the past three weeks, Virginia Tech was hit with two other bomb threats. Investigators have not publicly connected those threats to Cho.

Cho graduated from Westfield High School in Chantilly, Va., in 2003. His family lived in an off-white, two-story townhouse in Centreville, Va. Two of those killed in the rampage, Reema Samaha and Erin Peterson, graduated from Westfield High in 2006. But there was no immediate word from authorities on whether Cho knew the two young women and singled them out. "He was very quiet, always by himself," neighbor Abdul Shash said. Shash said Cho spent a lot of his free time playing basketball and would not respond if someone greeted him. Classmates painted a similar picture. Some said that on the first day of a British literature class last year, the 30 or so students went around and introduced themselves. When it was Cho's turn, he didn't speak. On the sign-in sheet where everyone else had written their names, Cho had written a question mark. "Is your name, `Question mark?'" classmate Julie Poole recalled the professor asking. The young man offered little response. Cho spent much of that class sitting in the back of the room, wearing a hat and seldom participating. In a small department, Cho distinguished himself for being anonymous. "He didn't reach out to anyone. He never talked," Poole said.

"We just really knew him as the question mark kid," Poole said. One law enforcement official said Cho's backpack contained a receipt for a March purchase of a Glock 9 mm pistol. Cho held a green card, meaning he was a legal, permanent resident. That meant he was eligible to buy a handgun unless he had been convicted of a felony. Roanoke Firearms owner John Markell said his shop sold the Glock and a box of practice ammo to Cho 36 days ago for $571. "He was a nice, clean-cut college kid. We won't sell a gun if we have any idea at all that a purchase is suspicious," Markell said. Investigators stopped short of saying Cho carried out both attacks. But State Police ballistics tests showed one gun was used in both. And two law enforcement officials, speaking on condition of anonymity because the information had not been announced, said Cho's fingerprints were on both guns, whose serial numbers had been filed off. With classes canceled for the rest of the week, many students left town in a hurry, lugging pillows, sleeping bags and backpacks down the sidewalks.

Jessie Ferguson, 19, a freshman from Arlington, headed for her car with tears streaming down her cheeks. "I'm still kind of shaky," she said. "I had to pump myself up just to kind of come out of the building. I was going to come out, but it took a little bit of 'OK, it's going to be all right. There's lots of cops around.'" She added: "I just don't want to be on campus." On Tuesday afternoon, thousands of people gathered in the basketball arena for a memorial service for the victims, with an overflow crowd of thousands watching on a jumbo TV screen in the football stadium. President Bush and the first lady attended. "As you draw closer to your families in the coming days, I ask you to reach out to those who ache for sons and daughters who are never coming home," Bush said. Virginia Tech President Charles Steger received a 30-second standing ovation, despite bitter complaints from parents and students that the university should have locked down the campus immediately after the first burst of gunfire.

Stories of heroism and ingenuity emerged Tuesday. Liviu Librescu, an Israeli engineering and math lecturer, was killed after he was said to have protected his students' lives by blocking the doorway of his classroom from the gunman. And one student, an Eagle Scout, survived after using an electrical cord as a tourniquet around his bleeding thigh, a doctor reported. Kevin and Cindy Deck of Roanoke met at Virginia Tech and graduated from the school. Their daughter Natalie is a fourth-year architecture student, while son Daniel is a freshman business major. "We both went to work this morning," Cindy Deck said. "I teach school, and by the first bell ringing, I thought, I can't do this. I need to be with my kids. It's just one of those days you've got to be with them." Her husband added: "We've been struggling with an immediate impulse just to run and grab our kids and bring them home."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: boyscout; boyscouts; bsa; bsalist; eaglescout; firstaid; scouts; virginiatech
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To: Bahbah

I read the smoking gun piece and I’ve seen worse and more violent rethoric at DU on-line.

This was a 23 year old man who evidently has enough smarts to make it to his senior year.

BTW, where are the parents and/or family of this man?


101 posted on 04/17/2007 4:10:31 PM PDT by not2worry ( What goes around comes around!)
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To: not2worry

I have some questions about the standards at the English department at VT.


102 posted on 04/17/2007 4:16:12 PM PDT by Bahbah (Regev, Goldwasser & Shalit, we are praying for you.)
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To: Buck W.

Not really. It is mostly older town houses, apartments, and strip malls. Lots of the people living their bought their first home there and since moved to more affluent areas.


103 posted on 04/17/2007 4:19:27 PM PDT by LetsRok
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To: Freedom4US

Sure, but then again ALL the recommendations are in effect.....including the following idiots supporting the ET menace.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1166743665260900218&q=The

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8234971229972074108&q

The Iron Mountain Report, if a hoax, why would they give Congressman Norman Dodd approval to view the minutes of the meeting in 1905 discussing the best way to control people....according to his testimony, and why did LBJ classify it....No, it was not a hoax..that is damage control by the government then. It is also the basic plan to design the Global Warming Scam, the Space Research Program, to include searching for Life in outer space....please. They are laughing all the way to the bank and Americans take this BS to heart.

1909 – Meeting of The Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, quoted from the minutes of the meeting. “The trustees of the Foundation brought up a single question. If it is desirable to alter the life of a single people, is there any means more efficient than war…. They discussed this question…… for a year and came up with an answer: There are no known means more efficient than war, assuming the objective is altering the life of an entire people. That leads them to a question: How do we involve the United States in a war?

[Written by former U.S. Congressman Norman Dodd, testified that he was invited to study the minutes of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace: Report from Iron Mountain, New York, Dell Pub., 1967].


104 posted on 04/17/2007 4:20:18 PM PDT by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: combat_boots
” Rosie’s “Blame Bush” rant from her show Rosie’s View on his radio program today.”

Making George Bush responsible for every person in this country is surreal and depraved

Did she really say that ? If she has got to go and soon.

105 posted on 04/17/2007 4:29:18 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: tgambill

“The Iron Mountain Report, if a hoax, why would they give Congressman Norman Dodd approval to view the minutes of the meeting in 1905”

Meant to say “1909” instead of “1905”


106 posted on 04/17/2007 4:41:46 PM PDT by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: tgambill

Well I’m not going to do your homework for you, so to speak.

But if you Google “Report From Iron Mountain” you’ll get the whole story in all its’ resplendent glory.

My favorite part is where some guy started publishing the book online - and invoked the ire of the publisher who ordered a “cease and desist” type of legal thing. The young fellow replied that since it was all supposedly government stuff, it is all public domain and thus not affected by copyright. Pretty cool, huh?


107 posted on 04/17/2007 5:02:21 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: wafflehouse

He got an “F” because he forgot to capitalize the first letter in every sentence! ;>)


108 posted on 04/17/2007 5:29:55 PM PDT by EEDUDE
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To: Coleus

“Her husband added: ‘We’ve been struggling with an immediate impulse just to run and grab our kids and bring them home.’”

Don’t struggle! In a situation like that, just go run and bring your kids home where they need to be!


109 posted on 04/17/2007 9:38:03 PM PDT by Cedar
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To: Freedom4US

True....My homework has existed since 1999. The government reacted to its exposure by claiming it was a hoax. Its no coincidence that all its recommendations are in full effect. This speaks for itself..and the fact that LBJ classified it, and the other reasons mentioned. The cease and desist was the same kind of action for the book entitled; “The Plot to Seize the White House”, by Jules Archer, 1973. True story and actual events documented by a congressional commission called the Dirkstein and McCormick Commission. The Iron Mountian report was made public by a true American that did not go along with the most evil agenda designed by the Presidential administration, then LBJ, that set the stage for the next 40 years right down to the penny........The Trilateral Commission, Bliderburgs, are real, and are only part of this true conspiracy. We will not allow this to go untouched or lost in being considered only a conspiracy...not to take serious.

The evil genius of these people is to hide the true conspiracy in plain sight and to join the ranks of the good guys....only to discredit the conspiracy from within. These are the facts......

the reason is to draw attention to the U.S. Gun laws and to bring us closer to the Brady bill.............plus to produce fear in the colleges, homes, and to bring the government legislation into effect for our protection, but designed to restrict our freedoms with our blessings........

It is real, and it is in effect as we speak. More to come out in about 2-3 months........of a significant degree.....:)


110 posted on 04/17/2007 11:30:08 PM PDT by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: LibLieSlayer
"If this is all true, this University is responsible for not acting on ALL of those signs."

WHY?

in this country , people can suggest KILLING OUR PRESIDENT and get away with it, so why should a university be worried about one lone cracker?

its all "free speech" as the libertarians tell us....one can say anything they like, especially if they do it in a "joking" or "literary" fashion....

no one seemed to care when they put a figure of Jesus in a jar of urine....

just depends on who's ox gets gored...

111 posted on 04/17/2007 11:45:41 PM PDT by cherry
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To: tgambill

Dude - it’s a hoax - a forgery, I’m not sure how anyone could have read it without laughing, the writing is so incredibly bad it’s almost funny.

At least the author admits it’s a forgery, along with everyone else.


112 posted on 04/18/2007 4:04:21 AM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: cherry
Administrators and Security people are supposed to keep tabs on troubled youth in schools. It is a Federal Mandate. It was the first excuse used by the media... “no prior flags on this young man”. I guess they lied again (for the millionth time) and got caught. There were red flags all over VT and this S. Korean mass murderer.

LLS

113 posted on 04/18/2007 4:19:04 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: Ole Okie

Agreed. Also how does a shooter with only 50 rounds manage to kill 32 and wound 20+????? Pretty fair shooting.


114 posted on 04/18/2007 4:30:47 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (Free Stan Shunpike!)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Freeper dream perp: An illegal Mexican immigrant turn Islamic radical, wearing an Obama ‘08 t-shirt, who worked on Hillary’s campaign staff and once had gay sex with Bill Clinton.

DUer dream perp: Karl Rove


115 posted on 04/18/2007 6:58:13 AM PDT by Callahan
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To: tgambill

will rewrite this reponse......the spaces just aren’t cooperating.


118 posted on 04/18/2007 9:47:36 AM PDT by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn
note had been described to him as "anti-woman

Gasp! Horrors!

Did he smoke, too?

119 posted on 04/18/2007 9:51:22 AM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: Coleus; RonF; AppauledAtAppeasementConservat; Looking for Diogenes; Congressman Billybob; ...
From the horror of the VT Murders we learn something new and good.

And one student, an Eagle Scout, survived after using an electrical cord as a tourniquet around his bleeding thigh, a doctor reported.

120 posted on 04/23/2007 9:17:25 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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