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Move on from abortion? Not on your life!
vanity | April 20, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/20/2007 9:51:11 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

I hate to say it again, but guess it has to be said:

Free Republic is a conservative site.

As a conservative site, we are pro-God, pro-life, pro-family, pro-liberty, pro-America.

Like-minded folks know immediately what this means and why we will never "move on from abortion" as Rudy Giuliani and his supporters ask us to do.

Think about it.

You might as well be asking us to deny God. To deny the Creator that gave us life and liberty. To give up our children. To surrender our country to the left. To give up our freedom. To give up our faith and our belief in God's Word.

Why insult us like this?

IMHO, the root difference between conservatism and liberalism IS our belief in God. For the most part, we conservatives defend our Christian/Judeo founding and our God-centered traditional American society and family values system, and the belief that our most fundamental rights were bestowed upon us by our Creator. Rights given by man can be taken by man. Rights bestowed by God are unalienable rights.

Liberals, on the other hand, especially the Marxist/socialist liberal leadership and the big leftist feminist, homosexualist, abortionist, anti-religion organizations deny God exists. They deny our Christian/Judeo heritage, work overtime to destroy our traditional family values, and seek to destroy our freedoms, including, and especially our right to the free exercise of religion.

Our deeply rooted conservative belief in God and refusal to roll over for feminism, abortionism, homosexualism, socialism, etc., is the only thing stopping the left from completely overwhelming us with their godless, socialist perversions and completely wiping out our traditional Christian/Judeo God-centered free society.

If we cave-in to the left by nominating a supporter of abortion rights, gay rights, gun control, illegal aliens, etc., as our candidate for the presidency and de facto leader of the Republican party, then we will have destroyed our own pro-God, pro-life, pro-family, pro-liberty movement and will have destroyed all of our prior pro-life, pro family, pro-liberty work. The Republican party will have made itself a joke. It'll be left standing for nothing. Worse, it'll be left standing with NARAL, NOW, the ACLU, and every other feminist/homosexualist Marxist/socialist communist group.

Surrender to the abortionists? Not on your life!

This is Free Republic. We ARE the dissent! We fight for life and liberty! We fight for our traditional American family values! We proudly and diligently defend our Christian/Judeo heritage, our country, our constitution, and our right to be free and to freely worship our God!

IMHO, those of you who cannot or will not understand these simple truths will never understand what FR is all about, what the pro-life movement is all about, what conservatism is all about, or even what freedom is all about.


TOPICS: Announcements; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: bitchslaprudy; elections; homosexualagenda; moralabsolutes; nosurrender; rudy; rudyonabortion; stoprudy2008
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To: rhombus
Nice and nasty. But the polls is the polls. You can say they are bogus, you can say it's too early...or you can just be nasty. Would you care to clarify your comment? In the spirit of Christianity, mind you?

You can get all self-righteous if you want to, but we all know you just came into this thread to stir some crap.

101 posted on 04/20/2007 11:28:40 AM PDT by Elyse (I refuse to feed the crocodile.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
The bulk of Giuliani's support here is coming from single-issue pro-abortion women.

They seem to be the strongest supporters, followed by atheist libertarians.

102 posted on 04/20/2007 11:32:02 AM PDT by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: Jim Robinson; All

Yes it is a shame you had to repost it, but I’m glad you did!!

B U M P!


103 posted on 04/20/2007 11:32:24 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: Jim Robinson

Bravo, Jim.

Let the message be heard around this nation that the Republican party is a tool of the conservative movement. The conservative movement is not a tool of the Republican party.


104 posted on 04/20/2007 11:33:17 AM PDT by Old_Mil (Duncan Hunter in 2008! A Veteran, A Patriot, A Reagan Republican... http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: rhombus; All

Free Republic is about CONSERVATISM, not POLLS 9 months ahead of time.


105 posted on 04/20/2007 11:34:43 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: kevkrom
The media is forcing him down our throats like they did McCain in 2000. We even got much of the same mantra -- he's the only one who can appeal to the moderates and beat Gore, doncha know? See how well that was a predictor of the eventual nominee?

Yes, no doubt the media is caught up with Rudy as they are with Obama. Your reference to McCain is interesting considering that Bush actually did lose the popular vote and probably did not appeal as much as he might have to the moderates (even with Compassionate Conservatism). Now many are complaining about Bush being too much of a RINO. I think people really want strong charismatic leadership at this point so I wouldn't discount all of the pro-Rudy polls. Many think there's been too much appeasement of liberals and respect Rudy's "in your face attitude" (despite his liberal social views). I'd very much like a candidate who can bring the GOP together because if we refuse, we're toast. I think that if it weren't for Rove's stategery, we would have lost in 2000 to the mushy middle.

106 posted on 04/20/2007 11:38:03 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Rah, rah, sis boom bah. Pep rallies don’t win elections, my friend.


107 posted on 04/20/2007 11:39:31 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: rhombus; All

“Rah, rah, sis boom bah. Pep rallies don’t win elections, my friend”

Neither do left wing liberal Republicans, my snide friend!!


108 posted on 04/20/2007 11:43:18 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: Elyse
You can get all self-righteous if you want to, but we all know you just came into this thread to stir some crap.

Sorry to rain on your self-congratualatory pep rally, but I'm not the one being self-righetous. All I asked is what people attributed the polls too? You are the one flinging crap. You obviously think you know much more than you do. By the way, who is "we"?

109 posted on 04/20/2007 11:44:18 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: Jim Robinson

Bravo!

My strong faith in the Lord is the base of my conservative beliefs. I believe Republican party is the best vehicle to further conservativism. That’s why I want a good conservative candidate such as one of the two in my tagline. If the GOP goes liberal, I’ll leave the GOP this time around.

Keep up the good work! God bless you!


110 posted on 04/20/2007 11:45:09 AM PDT by Pinkbell (Hunter/Thompson)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
Neither do left wing liberal Republicans, my snide friend!!

Is that what I am now? left wing Liberal Republican? Or snide? I'll accept snide. This thread sure brought out a lot of nastiness, especially when I asked what people attributed the polls too. I don't think this kind of vitriol will do any of us well when trying to convince people to vote for a candidate we support. Just a thought.

112 posted on 04/20/2007 11:49:34 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: Celtjew Libertarian

Let me assure you that Free Republic is conservative in all respects: social, fiscal, national defense, national sovereignty, small (constitutionally limited) government, individual liberty, etc., etc., etc. Today’s thread deals with Rudy’s abortionism.

Here’s an earlier thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1103363/posts


113 posted on 04/20/2007 11:50:37 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson
IMHO, the root difference between conservatism and liberalism IS our belief in God. For the most part, we conservatives defend our Christian/Judeo founding and our God-centered traditional American society and family values system, and the belief that our most fundamental rights were bestowed upon us by our Creator. Rights given by man can be taken by man. Rights bestowed by God are unalienable rights.

Boo Ya, Jim!

114 posted on 04/20/2007 11:51:40 AM PDT by jmc813 (The 2nd Amendment is NOT a "social conservative" issue.)
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To: Jim Robinson; Spiff
>>>>>Surrender to the abortionists? Not on your life!

Amen!!!

115 posted on 04/20/2007 11:52:55 AM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Exellent post, Jim.


116 posted on 04/20/2007 11:54:57 AM PDT by NinoFan
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To: Liberty Rattler

“where around 85% to 95% of everyone believes in both Heaven and God,”

Dunno. Lots of hypocrites and or people kidding themselves or not fully understanding the implications? Or lying to the pollsters?


117 posted on 04/20/2007 11:57:10 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: rhombus
By the way, who is "we"?

Me and the mouse in my pocket. Unless you have been under a rock for the last few weeks you have to know what's been going on around here. It's hard to believe that someone could just naively stumble into the thread and say, "Nice rant" then proceed to ask about Rudy in the polls without thinking they would be suspected of stirring up crap, but I guess someone could be that oblivious. Sorry if I've mischaracterized you, but I still have my doubts.

118 posted on 04/20/2007 11:58:23 AM PDT by Elyse (I refuse to feed the crocodile.)
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To: Celtjew Libertarian; Jim Robinson
When you write: As a conservative site, we are pro-God, pro-life, pro-family, pro-liberty, pro-America., you appear to be defining conservatism almost entirely as a matter of being a social/religious conservative.

I'm an outspoken small-l libertarian and I strongly disagree. I feel right at home here. Read the part of Jim's piece where he delves into where our rights and liberties come from and how they cannot be taken away by man. That's the core principle of libertarianism.

119 posted on 04/20/2007 11:58:40 AM PDT by jmc813 (The 2nd Amendment is NOT a "social conservative" issue.)
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To: rhombus; All

Is that what I am now? left wing Liberal Republican?:

You know darned well I was speaking of Rudy, NOT you!


120 posted on 04/20/2007 11:59:10 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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