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Music Mystery Of Da Vinci Code Chapel Cracked (Rosslyn)
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 5-1-2007 | Richard Alleyne

Posted on 04/30/2007 6:43:09 PM PDT by blam

Music mystery of Da Vinci Code chapel cracked

By Richard Alleyne
Last Updated: 2:05am BST 01/05/2007

A Scottish church featured in The Da Vinci Code is embroiled in a fresh mystery of secret codes and heretical knowledge - but this one could be more than mere fiction.

An ex-RAF codebreaker and his composer son say they have deciphered a musical score hidden for nearly 600 years in the elaborate carvings on the walls of Rosslyn Chapel.

Rosslyn Chapel, theories connect it with the Holy Grail, the Ark of the Covenant and the head of Christ

The pair believe the tune was encrypted because knowledge of music could have been considered heretical.

Thomas Mitchell, 75, a music teacher, and his son Stuart, 41, a pianist and composer, say they became intrigued by the markings on the chapel's arches more than 20 years ago.

Thomas was particularly struck by the 213 carved cubes in the Lady Chapel.

"I was obsessed by these symbols. I was convinced they meant something." Using codebreaking skills learned during the Korean War and his knowledge of classical music, Thomas Mitchell finally realised that the cubes depicted patterns made by sound waves.

"After scratching our brains for years the whole thing just came together in a eureka moment. We believe this is the Holy Grail of music and, unlike The Da Vinci Code, it is absolutely factual." Mr Mitchell realised the patterns on the cubes seem to match a phenomenon called cymatics or Chladni patterns. These form when a note is used to vibrate a sheet of metal or glass covered in powder.

Different frequencies produce different patterns such as flowers, diamonds and hexagons - shapes all present on the cubes.

The two men have brought the music back to life using instruments from the Middle Ages, adding words from a contemporary hymn to finish the piece, called The Rosslyn Motet.

Among the theories about Rosslyn is that it is the secret resting place of the Holy Grail, the Ark of the Covenant and even the mummified head of Christ.


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KEYWORDS: archaeomusicology; bananas; chapel; chladnipatterns; cymatics; davincicode; epigraphyandlanguage; godsgravesglyphs; ladychapel; music; mystery; nuts; ohsomysteriouso; richardalleyne; rosslynchapel; rosslynmotet; scotland; scotlandyet; stuartmitchell; thomasmitchell
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To: AnAmericanMother

Excellent. Thanks for your input.


21 posted on 04/30/2007 9:42:43 PM PDT by blam
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To: Lx
Exactly why would a Christian Church imply this?

The church didn't. Those 'theories' have all been implied by others.

There's a book out on the subject titled: Rosslyn Hoax? that should be available here in the States soon.

22 posted on 04/30/2007 9:53:20 PM PDT by uglybiker (relaxing in a cloud of quality, pre-owned tobacco essence)
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To: AnAmericanMother

Thanks for your insight. I’ll have to check out Dufay’s music.


23 posted on 04/30/2007 10:04:18 PM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: blam

placemark


24 posted on 05/01/2007 3:27:22 AM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Taz Struck By Lightning Faces Battery Charge)
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To: RosieCotton

Middle Ages (?) music ping. Followed the link and listened. Sounds about right for the era, but I have insufficient credulity for the totality of the story.

My sister came up with a way to produce musical notes from number strings. “Pi” sounds wierd, but listenable.

Anyway...thought you might be interested.


25 posted on 05/01/2007 3:42:27 AM PDT by ExGeeEye (To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women.)
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To: sitetest

Musical ping.


26 posted on 05/01/2007 3:51:07 AM PDT by GadareneDemoniac
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To: blam
I don’t know about this...

A bunch of squares with slightly different sizes, arranged differently, you discover what you think is a pattern, create a code, some how relate it to music...

I probably would have come up with “Running with the Devil”, by Van Halen.

27 posted on 05/01/2007 4:10:09 AM PDT by ryan71 (You can hear it on the coconut telegraph...)
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To: GadareneDemoniac; 1rudeboy; 2nd Bn, 11th Mar; 31R1O; ADemocratNoMore; afraidfortherepublic; ...

Dear GadareneDemoniac,

Thanks for the ping!

Classical Music Ping List ping!

If you want on or off this list, let me know via FR e-mail.

Thanks,

David


28 posted on 05/01/2007 6:02:42 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: blam
Lemme guess.... It plays "Inna Godda Da Vida".
(Just kidding....)
29 posted on 05/01/2007 6:26:00 AM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: ClearCase_guy
Secular music was considered heretical.

Certain chords were considered heretical in the early years of church music. Even the BASIC TRIAD chord was considered heretical at some early point - open 5ths were OK, the 3rds were considered to be the "problem".

30 posted on 05/01/2007 6:33:37 AM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: ryan71
A bunch of squares with slightly different sizes, arranged differently, you discover what you think is a pattern, create a code, some how relate it to music...

Very early Christian church music was written with squares.


31 posted on 05/01/2007 6:36:27 AM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: ClearCase_guy

Could be. I’ve sung a madrigal by HVIII. It was ok, not great. It was about good friends, drinking, and partying.


32 posted on 05/01/2007 6:53:40 AM PDT by ichabod1 ("Liberals read Karl Marx. Conservatives UNDERSTAND Karl Marx." Ronald Reagan)
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To: Wilhelm Tell
Dufay is worth checking out. His music is marvelous.

My music prof doesn't care for the records by the Anonymous Four - he says their style is too clinical, not warm enough. But there are quite a number of good recordings out of Dufay's work - both secular and sacred. The Mass L'homme Armé (what they call a cantus firmus - all the parts based on a popular tune, in this case a song "The armed man") is probably his most famous work. I checked Amazon and they have a bunch of his stuff, by various performers.

33 posted on 05/01/2007 7:19:26 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
Actually, it wasn't considered "heretical" - just another ugly rumor intended to beat on the church.

Just consider: the most common source for a Mass setting during this period was to use a popular song as a cantus firmus or recurrent theme - one example is Dufay's Mass 'l'Homme armé', based on a popular ditty that probably originated with the Crusades. If secular music was so heretical, what were all the major composers doing using it to set Masses?

It is true that some intervals were considered "imperfect" but that has nothing to do with the Church and everything to do with the ancient Greek theories of music.

It's difficult for us to understand what the problem was now, because we all are used to the adjusted or tempered Western scale -- based on the piano scale, which is not a true even division of the octave. The medievals inherited the "Pythagorean tuning", which WAS an equal division, so you have to have one place in the scale where the interval sounds cranky. Especially if you're playing in different keys -- if you start with a pretty good tuning in in C Major, you're going to be WAY out by the time you get around to, say, A flat major.

What you are thinking of as a "third" was actually an augmented fourth in modern terms -- that's why it was considered the "devil's interval" - it sounded like the devil (still does). That term, by the way, didn't show up until much later, the medievals called it a "wolf interval" because it howled like a wolf.

34 posted on 05/01/2007 7:34:17 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: AnAmericanMother

I’d like to know more about their methodology. If they really got at least three vocal lines and two instrumental lines off these carvings, and got them by testing frequencies on a medium to reverse engineer their way into the patterns, and there was a high correlation of the frequencies to the patterns, and these harmonies were produced, then I think it’s fascinating, and not so far beyond the ken of engineers who could design and build churches like this in the first place.

Maybe it’s not so great, but who knows who they got to write the music... it may be like the dancing bear, not so much whether he dances well or badly but that he dances at all.

I could also do without all the speculation behind the motives etc. Scientists oftenseem to do this - give you some facts and then attempt to inject a lot of sheer speculation and then try to pass it off as if written in stone. Maybe they just did it because they thought it was cool, as do we.


35 posted on 05/01/2007 7:35:28 AM PDT by ichabod1 ("Liberals read Karl Marx. Conservatives UNDERSTAND Karl Marx." Ronald Reagan)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

And if you play it backwards, it says, “I . . . Buried . . . Paul . . . “


36 posted on 05/01/2007 7:35:47 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: blam

Nawww, the REAL music is “Freebird”.


37 posted on 05/01/2007 7:36:45 AM PDT by Mr. Jazzy (Very Proud Dad of LCpl Smoothguy242 USMC of 1/3 Marines, now fighting for freedom, on duty in Iraq)
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To: ichabod1
I know it worked the other way -- when Dufay wrote a motet for the dedication of the Duomo in Florence, he used the legendary proportions of Solomon's Temple as a basis for the proportions in the phrasing.

But I just don't see how it could work the other way around -- how you could get all that information from a (relatively) simple pattern on a chapel wall.

I think it's like the folks who find all sorts of prophecies in numerical analysis of Bible verses. If you know where you want to go, you start fudging things to get there (what they called the "Finagle Factor" when my husband was at Ga. Tech - "the number which, added to, subtracted from, multiplies by or divided into, the answer you got, gives the correct one.")

38 posted on 05/01/2007 7:39:00 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: ichabod1

Oh - I forgot to mention - the quote about the bear was actually dear Dr. Johnson — ‘Sir, a woman’s preaching is like a dog’s walking on his hinder legs. It is not done well; but you are surprized to find it done at all.’


39 posted on 05/01/2007 7:41:11 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

Yeah, we sing anglican chant in that notation every sunday. It’s not easy.


40 posted on 05/01/2007 7:41:33 AM PDT by ichabod1 ("Liberals read Karl Marx. Conservatives UNDERSTAND Karl Marx." Ronald Reagan)
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