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Latino Fear and Loathing [This is gonna make you mad]
Yahoo ^ | May 25, 2007 | Linda Chavez

Posted on 05/27/2007 2:50:56 PM PDT by Sleeping Beauty

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Wonder how MS Cahvez would respond to this quote from today's LA Times?

Lionel Sosa worked as a political strategist for Bush, President Reagan and President George H.W. Bush. But if the eventual Republican nominee adopts a harsh tone on immigration, Sosa said he would not vote for the candidate.

"Blood runs thicker than politics," said Sosa, of San Antonio, who is helping organize a fundraiser for New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, a Democrat who is Latino. "I'm not saying I would vote for a Democrat. But I'm saying I would not vote for a Republican who opposed immigration reform."

Immigration debate puts up a wall in the GOP

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/politics/la-na-immig27may27,1,6899999.story?page=1&coll=la-news-politics-national

61 posted on 05/27/2007 3:57:03 PM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: AuntB
Co-authored by Stuart Anderson, Jeff Bell, Linda Chavez, Larry Cirignano, Cesar V. Conda, Francis Fukuyama, Richard Gilder, Newt Gingrich

Well, that puts Newt off the table for 08 as far as I'm concerned.

63 posted on 05/27/2007 4:03:58 PM PDT by navyblue (<u>)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
Ms Chavez is an America hater. :)

Perhaps, but her political credentials make this opinion piece particularly striking. I think the real questions should be "Who are Linda Chavez and George Bush working for?"

Linda Chavez Bio

64 posted on 05/27/2007 4:09:35 PM PDT by Sleeping Beauty
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To: Sleeping Beauty
The total hypocrisy of Linda Chavez on this is amasing

She in promoting the unassimilated mass illegal immigration of only one race ..one she see as her race...

If it was another race coming in unassimilated mass illegal immigration displacing what she saw as her race...would she talk the same talk?...no... the racism is on her part...

It's no diffrent then the total hypocrisy of Mexico in general on illegal immigration...

Mexico and Mexican would never stand for illegal immigration and the demands that illegal make on there nation that they expect we in the US must except from them

You can test hypocrisy by putting the shoe on the other foot... when it comes to illegal.. do to Mexico what they do to us... they scream

65 posted on 05/27/2007 4:10:20 PM PDT by tophat9000 (Quislingis=traitor, politicians who favor the interests of other nations or cultures over their own)
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To: Sleeping Beauty

“Have we been marginalized (by congress and the President)? Are we irrelevant?”

Yes. And Yes, again.

I think my relatives (Germans) were rather admirable, hiking across the Swiss Alps to escape that lunatic Hitler, rather than be part of his genocide. Great Grandpa & his brother lived in Switzerland for a short time, then made their way to America.

From what MY Grandpa has told me, they both worked like dogs to live “The American Dream.” And knowing my Grandpa as I did (we were very close) he learned his lessons well at his father’s knee.

During The Great Depression, my Grandpa NEVER went without work (he held three jobs at a time while others milled around in the ‘Bread Lines’) and never took a penny of charity. Providing for his family was his pride until he died a few years ago.

My Dad is the same way. Navy man, Biblical scholar, never let us kids or his wife miss a meal, go without shoes, or any other basics...even in the early 70’s when he was earning what would now be considered “below minimum wage.” My Mom never worked outside of our home once we girls came along. Dad wouldn’t have heard of it!

And this nut hasn’t fallen too far from the tree, either. I love to be productive. I’m a total Capitalist Pig, and I love to take care of my family. I’ve served twenty years in the Army. I LOVE my country; what’s being allowed to happen to Her just breaks my Red, White & Blue heart!

Are there legal Mexican, Guatemalan, etc. immigrants that are just like my German family? You betcha. Are they they majority today?

Nope. :(

My husband’s family is the same way, though they came from Sweden. When his Grandpa came to America, he changed his last name to the Swedish version of “New Mountain.” He knew he’d be “climbing a mountain” to start a new life in America. ;)


66 posted on 05/27/2007 4:12:21 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: D-Chivas
Immigrants used to have a sponsor..either a relative or friend... to see to it that they found a job and housing, etc.

I don't think there was any welfare of any kind.

The sponsor took responsibility for them, I think.

67 posted on 05/27/2007 4:14:18 PM PDT by moondoggie
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To: Sleeping Beauty
his is an opinion piece, obviously. It is excerpted, but you might want to look at the entire article. What I found unsettling was the author's complete certainty that we "xenophobes" are such a "TINY MINORITY." Do you think we are? Am I so immersed in my FReeper world, that I'm missing something real? Have we been marginalized (by congress and the President)? Are we irrelevant?

So you don't deny all the bigotry, you just deny that you are a mitority. Lovely.

68 posted on 05/27/2007 4:14:20 PM PDT by bad company (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous)
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To: Sleeping Beauty

Yeah, when you white skinned, gun toting, over aggressive ice people going to learn to stop being prejudiced?

(...see the irony? the left doesn’t/sarcasm)


69 posted on 05/27/2007 4:19:12 PM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President! www.dndorks.com)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Wow, Diana! You win the “Post of the Day” award!

(My family escaped hiking the Alps, too, during an earlier war.)


70 posted on 05/27/2007 4:21:44 PM PDT by Sleeping Beauty
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To: Sleeping Beauty

Alright, let me be frank here. I am of Irish descent. My mother told me that when her father came to this country, around the turn of the last century, there was a great deal of discrimination against Irish immigrants. Even as a girl in the 1930s, she had a taste of it. But she admitted that much of what was said about the Irish immigrants was true. My grandfather said the same thing: the Irish really were dirty, inclined to breed lots of babies, inclined to violence and crime. They really were dirty (of course, it’s not easy bathing when you live in a slum and have no running water). They didn’t have the American work ethic and some of them joined Irish gangs. Just as with modern Hispanic immigrants, some chose to escape the ghetto by joining the cops, the fire department, or the military, while others became professional criminals. There was a lot of murder among or by Irishmen back then.

Perhaps the same might be said of Italian immigrants, though I won’t venture to speak for the Italians and do not have first-hand experience of them.

Here’s the difference between those immigrants and modern Hispanic immigrants: our ancestors in the last century were in a small minority so they had to assimilate. And they spoke English. Today, Hispanics are immigrating in such numbers that they have no need to assimilate at all. Even thirty years ago their numbers were such that they, and the social problems they represent, were controllable. That is no longer the case.

And of course, immigrants of previous generations did not demand to take part in social entitlement programs. They didn’t demand free health care, which is becoming costlier each year. Nor did they demand to take over the United States. The Irish and Italians of the last century not only assimilated, but became the most American of Americans, and with the possible exception of the Kennedys, America has the right to be proud of those descended from Ireland. But with the Hispanic tide, things are getting worse, not better.


71 posted on 05/27/2007 4:22:02 PM PDT by Fairview ( Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.)
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To: D-Chivas

Which is a BIG difference. A hundred years there was no welfare state. The Democrats were able to buy votes just for the price of a Thanksgiving turkey or Christmas goose. Now we provide the welfare that Mexico cannot or will not.


72 posted on 05/27/2007 4:25:45 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Fairview
Perhaps the same might be said of Italian immigrants, though I won’t venture to speak for the Italians and do not have first-hand experience of them.

LOL. Are you kidding? Ever heard of "organized crime?"

Worthwhile post, BTW.

73 posted on 05/27/2007 4:28:23 PM PDT by Sleeping Beauty
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To: fr_freak
Great job.

To be sarcastic for a moment (tongue in cheek) I think in reply to your post we need that little streaming image of the little black kid yelling "That's Racist!".

I agree wholeheartedly with your reasoned argument based on confirmed statistics.

74 posted on 05/27/2007 4:33:41 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Bush has shown he can hold his own, when it comes to appeasing North Korea, just like "Slick" did.)
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To: Sleeping Beauty
The writer doesn't know our history, Fur Shur, and he probably has only the slightest idea that the so-called "compromise" proposal is essentially the old Oriental Exclusion Act, rewritten in sweeter language.

Still, over a billion Hindus and a billion and a half Buddhists in East Asia know that letting in the 20,000,000 Hispanics will substantially undercut the justification for immigration by themselves in the foreseeable future.

Still, we don't need to use the Senate's xenophobia as a reason to oppose this bigoted bill. Think about it, if 20 million more Hispanics are going to be a wonderful addition to America, then 20 million more Hispanics moving back to their own home countries would probably usher in a golden age previously unimagineable in those parts of the world. In fact, their pathway to re-assimilation would be markedly improved since they already know the language.

The writer should be sent back to gradeschool BTW, but that's just my humble opinion.

75 posted on 05/27/2007 4:35:57 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Sleeping Beauty

Let’s hope neither of us ever have to “hike” out of an America we no longer recognize. I fear the generation behind us is in for some big surprises.


76 posted on 05/27/2007 4:36:26 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Vigilanteman

I was thinking an “equal protection of the laws” class-action lawsuit against the collection of federal income taxes except on the same basis applied to the illegal aliens would be very much in order.


77 posted on 05/27/2007 4:37:56 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Some have already made the “hike”, or are on the verge of it.


78 posted on 05/27/2007 4:38:39 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Bush has shown he can hold his own, when it comes to appeasing North Korea, just like "Slick" did.)
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To: calex59; gcruse
Deportation would consume about 2% of our annual domestic air lift capacity and could be done for about $137 per head per average trip to Mexico City.

It's peanuts.

79 posted on 05/27/2007 4:39:33 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: gcruse
We've had three murders in this neighborhood over the last 15 years. Two were done by illegal aliens wielding aluminum baseball bats. The third was an old fashioned beating.

I know this colors my thinking about these people, but this area has people from all over the world and it's only the illegal aliens doing the murders!

80 posted on 05/27/2007 4:41:24 PM PDT by muawiyah
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