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Latino Fear and Loathing [This is gonna make you mad]
Yahoo ^ | May 25, 2007 | Linda Chavez

Posted on 05/27/2007 2:50:56 PM PDT by Sleeping Beauty

Some people just don't like Mexicans — or anyone else from south of the border. They think Latinos are freeloaders and welfare cheats who are too lazy to learn English. They think Latinos have too many babies, and that Latino kids will dumb down our schools. They think Latinos are dirty, diseased, indolent and more prone to criminal behavior. They think Latinos are just too different from us ever to become real Americans.

What is said today of the Mexicans, Guatemalans, Salvadorans and others was once said of Germans, Swedes, the Irish, Italians, Poles, Jews and others. The only difference is that in the past, the xenophobes could speak freely, unconstrained by a veneer of political correctness. Today, they speak more cautiously, so they talk about the rule of law, national security, amnesty, whatever else they think might make their arguments less racially charged.

Where once the xenophobes could advocate forced sterilization and eugenics coupled with virtually shutting off legal immigration from "undesirable" countries, now they must be content with building walls, putting troops on the border, rounding up illegal aliens on the job and deporting them, passing local ordinances to signal their distaste for immigrants' multi-family living arrangements, and doing whatever else they can to drive these people back where they came from.

There is no chance this small group of xenophobes will succeed. The victories of their predecessors have been short-lived and so obviously wrong-headed we've always finally abandoned them, from modifying and then repealing the Asian exclusion acts to scrapping the nationalities quotas. But we need to quit pretending that the "No Amnesty" crowd is anything other than what it is: a tiny group of angry, frightened and prejudiced loudmouths backed by political opportunists who exploit them.

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This is an opinion piece, obviously. It is excerpted, but you might want to look at the entire article.

What I found unsettling was the author's complete certainty that we "xenophobes" are such a "TINY MINORITY." Do you think we are?

Am I so immersed in my FReeper world, that I'm missing something real?

Have we been marginalized (by congress and the President)? Are we irrelevant?

1 posted on 05/27/2007 2:50:59 PM PDT by Sleeping Beauty
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To: Sleeping Beauty

How much welfare did the Germans, Swedes, the Irish, Italians, Poles, and Jews take once they got to the US? I’d say VERY LITTLE, IF ANY!


2 posted on 05/27/2007 2:53:20 PM PDT by D-Chivas
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To: Sleeping Beauty

see:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1839948/posts


3 posted on 05/27/2007 2:54:49 PM PDT by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: Sleeping Beauty

I had to laugh when I just saw Jeff Gordon’s racing suit with the word “Nomex”. For just a moment, I thought he was making a statement about illegal immigration. Turns out that is just the maker of the flame retardent suit.


4 posted on 05/27/2007 2:55:36 PM PDT by TommyDale (More Americans are killed each day in the U.S. by abortion than were killed on 9/11 !)
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To: Sleeping Beauty

I like Linda, in spite of her illegally employing her household help, but think her conflating xenophobes with folks against illegal immigration is bait and switch.

That said, comments on FR attacking illegals as being on a level with urban gangsters and/or terrorists are based either on xenophobia or bigotry. I can’t tell which. I only know there is an awful lot of it.

If you have to ask, you probably aren’t a xenophonbe.


5 posted on 05/27/2007 2:57:39 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: Sleeping Beauty
Are we irrelevant?

If they pass this bill and we do nothing...

YES

6 posted on 05/27/2007 2:59:14 PM PDT by johnny7 ("But that one on the far left... he had crazy eyes")
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To: Sleeping Beauty

I would DIS respectfully disagree with Chavez. ALL of these aliens are criminals, and many more, after invading our country, commit more crimes. She showed once before the law meant nothing to her. It still doesn’t. She is a disgrace.


7 posted on 05/27/2007 2:59:36 PM PDT by PghBaldy (Amnesty is cultural suicide. Save America, Congress!)
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To: Sleeping Beauty
It blows my mind that Linda Chavez would write such delusional trash as this. From what I've seen of her, she is normally conservative on most issues. I guess she is just another adherent of the mentality that race trumps everything else, because there is no way she could not understand the impact of allowing 20 million unchecked illegals into this country at once, who maintain ties to their home country right next door.

I wonder how she explains all the Americans of Mexican descent who are against illegal immigration?
8 posted on 05/27/2007 3:01:12 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: Sleeping Beauty

Ms. Chavez,

If I have to abide by the law, so does everyone else.
Anything else is injustice.

-SF


9 posted on 05/27/2007 3:02:19 PM PDT by Swordfished
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To: D-Chivas

A point never brought up. A very real differance from what is happening now.


10 posted on 05/27/2007 3:02:59 PM PDT by ca centered (should I dye my mustache black?)
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To: Sleeping Beauty

I heard she learned how much money La Raza, etc. was getting from the Chamber of Commerce, and wants a piece of the action. (just kidding...???)

Or maybe she’s just worried the Bush/Rove/MSM plan to define all opposition as racist is losing steam.

I don’t see that, MSM and Liberals are sufficiently scared of being called racist and don’t seem to be relenting. Never is a liberal who opposes the bill, like some Senators, given a voice, their concerns weighed equally.

Instead we have the Rove/Chamber narrative validated and repeated without question. Last year, with just a few directions from Rove, the MSM ran with the “House conservatives” are the problem.

the tactic this year was to create a sense of bipartisanship, coopting one “conservative”, Kyl, a sell-out, into a bill WORSE than last year’s to present a sense of “compromise” and momentum.

That failed when the bill wasn’t ready but “agreed upon” and the people got a peek. things are still problematic so the Admin and lobbies are pushing the racist angle again...with the MSM liberals playing along ironically like Bush stooges.

But “house conservatives” don’t rule the House,

The big, unspoken, problem is House Democrats who might not like the bill.

When and if the MSM relents and opens up debate on the facts, the bill will be in deeper trouble.


11 posted on 05/27/2007 3:03:08 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Sleeping Beauty

I think the difference is that some immigrants who come and have come here legally do not have a sense of entitlement.

Ms. Chavez not only defends entitlement but believes that she can eliminate the consequences== that she has control. She believes that the creation of a permanent underclass is due to the bigotry of onlookers, instead of the narcissism of those promoting a policy that treats some individuals as less competent and thus less accountable than others.


12 posted on 05/27/2007 3:03:23 PM PDT by saveliberty (Prayer blizzard for Tony and Jill Snow and their family.)
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To: Sleeping Beauty

Linda Chavez is one of the White House’s designated ‘marginalizers’.
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In a letter to the WSJ signed with LINDA CHAVEZ, Grover Norquist, Tamar Jacoby, Newt Gingrich, Cesar Conda and others she promoted Bush/Kennedy Amnesty as the only workable approach.

snip] The Wall Street Journal February 6, 2004 Welcome to America

President Bush has proposed a new legal path to work in the U.S. through a temporary worker program that will match willing workers with willing employers. We applaud the president and believe his approach holds great promise to reduce illegal immigration and establish a humane, orderly, and economically sensible approach to migration that will aid homeland security and free up border-security assets to focus on genuine threats. The president has shown courage by calling on Congress to place reality over rhetoric and recognize that those already working here outside the law are unlikely to leave. Congress can fulfill its role by establishing sufficient increases in legal immigration and paths to permanent residence to enable more workers to stay, assimilate, and become part of America.

Immigrants are crucial to our competitiveness and future labor and economic growth, as well as our military strength. Our country’s welcoming attitude to immigrants will permit the U.S. to grow and prosper, as the populations of many other nations stagnate and decline.

Co-authored by Stuart Anderson, Jeff Bell, Linda Chavez, Larry Cirignano, Cesar V. Conda, Francis Fukuyama, Richard Gilder, Newt Gingrich, Ed Goeas, Tamar Jacoby, Jack Kemp, Steve Moore, Grover Norquist, Richard W. Rahn and Malcolm Wallop

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1836137/posts?page=65#65


13 posted on 05/27/2007 3:04:00 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: Sleeping Beauty
"What is said today of the Mexicans, Guatemalans, Salvadorans and others was once said of Germans, Swedes, the Irish, Italians, Poles, Jews and others."

This line is so stale. It ain't 100 years ago.

Come to think of it, the race card and the bigots lines are pretty stale too. And all they do is say "look at me, I've lost the argument."

14 posted on 05/27/2007 3:04:11 PM PDT by NapkinUser (Tom Tancredo or Ron Paul for President in 2008!)
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To: D-Chivas

What’s more, the Germans, Swedes, the Irish, Italians, Poles, and Jews all demanded that we provide government services in their languages and let them bring in their extended families on the taxpayer’s dime! So there’s no difference at all!


15 posted on 05/27/2007 3:05:11 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: Sleeping Beauty
Where once the xenophobes could advocate forced sterilization and eugenics

Yup, that's us "xenophobes" (anyone who disagrees with her) alright. < /s>

Linda, shame on you for for writing such trash.

16 posted on 05/27/2007 3:05:57 PM PDT by SIDENET (Since Mexico controls our country, can I vote in their elections?)
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To: All

Why would it be unusual for Ms Chavez to support her Raza?

Are there any national Hispanics elected or appointed who do not support the invasion?


17 posted on 05/27/2007 3:06:32 PM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: xcamel

Thanks for letting me know this has already been posted.

I hate it when that happens and I did search.


18 posted on 05/27/2007 3:06:42 PM PDT by Sleeping Beauty
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To: gcruse; Shermy

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1840655/posts

Do you realize if this AMNESTY happens we are in effect creating the equivilent of adding over 17 more states to this country? And that’s not even considering the chain migration that is in the Senate bill.

Please look at what giving amnesty to as many as 20,000,000 illegal alien foreign nationals actually represents. More than the population of 16 states and DC!

According to the 2000 census, 18,785,867 is the total populations combined of
Wyoming,
Dist. of Columbia,
Vermont,
Alaska,
North Dakota,
South Dakota,
Delaware,
Montana,
Rhode Island,
Hawaii,
New Hampshire,
Maine,
Idaho,
Nebraska,
West Virginia,
New Mexico
and Nevada.

THINK about that.

http://www.enchantedlearning.com/usa/states/population.shtml


19 posted on 05/27/2007 3:06:56 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: D-Chivas

“How much welfare did the Germans, Swedes, the Irish, Italians, Poles, and Jews take once they got to the US? I’d say VERY LITTLE, IF ANY!”............... You can say that about 50 years ago, but not today, you should only hear what I hear from Brooklyn.


20 posted on 05/27/2007 3:07:00 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (Time to get your election bumper sticker ready. "Impeach Hillary 09".)
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