Posted on 05/27/2007 2:50:56 PM PDT by Sleeping Beauty
Some people just don't like Mexicans or anyone else from south of the border. They think Latinos are freeloaders and welfare cheats who are too lazy to learn English. They think Latinos have too many babies, and that Latino kids will dumb down our schools. They think Latinos are dirty, diseased, indolent and more prone to criminal behavior. They think Latinos are just too different from us ever to become real Americans.
What is said today of the Mexicans, Guatemalans, Salvadorans and others was once said of Germans, Swedes, the Irish, Italians, Poles, Jews and others. The only difference is that in the past, the xenophobes could speak freely, unconstrained by a veneer of political correctness. Today, they speak more cautiously, so they talk about the rule of law, national security, amnesty, whatever else they think might make their arguments less racially charged.
Where once the xenophobes could advocate forced sterilization and eugenics coupled with virtually shutting off legal immigration from "undesirable" countries, now they must be content with building walls, putting troops on the border, rounding up illegal aliens on the job and deporting them, passing local ordinances to signal their distaste for immigrants' multi-family living arrangements, and doing whatever else they can to drive these people back where they came from.
There is no chance this small group of xenophobes will succeed. The victories of their predecessors have been short-lived and so obviously wrong-headed we've always finally abandoned them, from modifying and then repealing the Asian exclusion acts to scrapping the nationalities quotas. But we need to quit pretending that the "No Amnesty" crowd is anything other than what it is: a tiny group of angry, frightened and prejudiced loudmouths backed by political opportunists who exploit them.
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calex, I know you feel strongly about this issue, but I wish you would talk like this on my threads.
The war on terror is a bigger deal than illegal immigration. The fact that our open border also allows terrorists in should make closing it a priority. My biggest sin in all this was to have voted for Bush. My bad.
She is part of the slave labor wing of Republican party.
“Where once the xenophobes could advocate forced sterilization and eugenics
Yup, that’s us “xenophobes” (anyone who disagrees with her) alright.”
I was just hoping we could make a distinction by making illegals “illegal, and legal imigrants legal. But now you’re telling me I’ve got to get out my pitchfork and snippers? Like we see that everyday.
I thought they were going to muzzle this reporter all she does is slam Americans while making the hispanics look like they are always the victims.
Bravo! You sir, have won post of the day!
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“Some people just don’t like Mexicans or anyone else from south of the border. They think Latinos are freeloaders and welfare cheats who are too lazy to learn English. They think Latinos have too many babies, and that Latino kids will dumb down our schools. They think Latinos are dirty, diseased, indolent and more prone to criminal behavior. They think Latinos are just too different from us ever to become real Americans.”
Unfortunately, that’s exactly the impression many have. And who’s to blame for that? the media?
Frankly I don't care where they come from or what language they speak. If they came here without following our immigration laws, pay no taxes, and use public services while at the same time refusing to do anything to fit into our culture while waving their home nation's flag in our faces, then yes, I have a problem with that.
“comments on FR attacking illegals as being on a level with urban gangsters and/or terrorists are based either on xenophobia or bigotry.”
So you’ve never been to Chicago.
>> Good luck with that deportation. Fifteen or twenty million takes a lot of buses.
If you did it the RIGHT way you wouldn’t need to deport 20 million people (or whatever the UNKNOWN number of illegals is). Here’s how:
a) Make employment of an illegal alien a felony crime with mandatory prison time. Make this felony apply to *every manager* up the chain, INCLUDING THE CEO, whether or not he or she “knew about” the employee.
b) Put some government money in whatever machinery (SSAN database, document verification service, whatever) would help employers document their employees. Make this machinery secure, reliable, and available to employers. An employer who uses THIS method to verify the status of their employees is protected from a), even if (somehow) an illegal employee slips through the cracks.
c) Pass another law that absolutely, unequivocally denies any form of lawsuit or tort case against an employer in their efforts to ascertain the immigration status of their employees.
d) Any city that declares itself a sanctuary loses ALL federal funding of every sort, period!
e) ENFORCE the above laws, and other existing immigration laws.
I guarantee you, the major employers (Tyson, the big janatorial firms, the big construction firms) will FIRE all their illegals. The CEOs do NOT want to go to prison... they WILL find and get rid of illegal employees. If there are any recalcitrants, make an example of ‘em — end of story!
WITHOUT JOBS, the illegals will deport THEMSELVES! Why do you think they’re here?
(Of course we don’t have the will to do this, but it WOULD work. Too many entire industries love their cheap labor, subsidized by hardworking taxpaying American CITIZENS. Frankly, I like the thought of a few of these SOBs that got rich through criminal behavior spending hard time in prison.)
Oh yeah, and NO ANCHOR BABIES. Retroactively.
I’ve been to East St Louis, which is probably worse.
I would hope that our opinion on this vital matter is not irrelevant. I would add, that my anger is with the illegal invaders, not with the people wanting to enter our country via legal means.
“Of course we dont have the will to do this’
Bless you. Politics is the art of the possible, and what really needs doing besides a border fence, is not possible.
If ya ain't got substance ya use name calling, no matter left or right it seems. It happens.
>> Right out of the “big book of activist strategy”, these comments are intentionally designed to demonize and marginalize all those who oppose illegal immigration.
Linda Chavez hyperbole: “No debate necessary! If you’re not for this bill, you’re RACIST.”
Michael Chertoff: “No debate necessary! If you’re not for this bill, you’re a hateful rightwinger who wants to EXECUTE Mexicans!”
John McCain: “No debate necessary! I and my elitist colleagues know more about amnesty (oops! I mean immigration!) than any of you $%^*&^! If you’re not for this bill you’re a %&^%$ @%^&* !!!!!!!”
Hmmm. Anyone see any similarities between immigration reform and the other bu11$hit-du-jour, global warming?
“NO DEBATE NECESSARY!!!”
Well said. I’m tired of all the name-calling by those who want to “third-worldize” the US. It’s not bigotry to want to prevent your country (or your neighborhood) from turning into a toilet.
Ms Chavez is an America hater. :)
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