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Clinton: "Something Has to be Taken Away from Some People"
Townhall.com ^ | June 4, 2007 | Amanda Carpenter

Posted on 06/06/2007 12:41:35 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

During a nationally broadcast forum Monday evening on faith and politics Sen. Hillary Clinton (D.-N.Y.) attacked the free market and told listeners in that order to attain energy independence and provide universal health coverage, it would be necessary to “take away from some people.”

“An uninsured person who goes to the hospital is more likely to die than an insured person,” Clinton said. “I mean, that is a fact. So what do we do? We have to build a political consensus. And that requires people to give up a little bit of their own turf in order to create this common ground.”

She went on, “The same with energy. You know, we can’t keep talking about our dependence on foreign oil and the need to deal with global warming and the challenge that it poses to our climate and to God’s creation and just let business as usual go on, and that means something has to be taken away from some people.”

Clinton made these comments near the end of her allotted 15-minute portion of the event.

Clinton also said that “the adult society has failed” young people “who are tremendously influenced by the media culture and by the celebrity culture.”

“I think that we have failed them in our churches, our schools and our government,” she said. “And I certainly think the free market has failed. We’ve all failed.”

The New York senator said something similar to “taking things away from some people” at a June 2004 private fundraising event in San Francisco. There, Associated Press reporter Beth Fouhy wrote that Clinton told attendees Democrats should take money back from taxpayers who benefited from President Bush’s tax cuts.

Clinton told her donors, “We're not coming to you, many of whom are well enough off that actually the tax cuts may have helped you, and say 'we're going to give you more.' We're saying, 'you know what, for America to get back on track and be fiscally responsible, we're probably going to cut that short and not give it to you.”

She added, “We’re going to take things away form you on behalf of the common good.”

On the campaign trail, each of the three leading Democrats running for their party’s nomination for President, Clinton, former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards and Sen. Barack Obama (Ill.), have said he or she would repeal the Bush tax cuts to help finance universal health care.

The June 4 event was hosted by Sojourners, a social justice movement for progressive Christians. Founder Jim Wallis is the author of “God’s Politics: Why the Right Gets It Wrong and the Left Doesn’t Get It.”

CNN’s Soledad O’Brien moderated the forum. It aired on that station Monday evening from 7 p.m. to 9 p.m.

Edwards and Obama also participated.


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; barackobama; bush; candidates; churches; communism; economy; elections; energy; energyindependence; freemarkets; georgewbush; healthcare; hillary; hillarycare; hillaryclinton; johnedwards; liberalism; marxism; presidentbush; schools; socialism; taxcuts; taxes
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To: avacado

On the other hand, Bush did expand Medicare to include a drug benefit—an increase in redistributionism, albeit with some market forces in play, IIRC. Who’s to say the next Republican president won’t be similarly opportunistic. Mitt Romney, for example, helped to impose a statewide health insurance regime in Massachusetts.


101 posted on 06/06/2007 1:16:35 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Will I be suspended again for this remark?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
I think it was Hillary who stated:

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs".

But I could be mistaken of course. ;)

102 posted on 06/06/2007 1:16:36 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: Kevmo
Why is this woman considered so scary to beat? She’s shooting herself in the foot.

Because, as things stand, somewhere around half of the 'voters' in this country will vote for her under ANY circumstances.

103 posted on 06/06/2007 1:16:57 PM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Man, that's stupid...even by congressional standards.)
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To: MrB
All it takes is 50.01% of the voting population that believes this is the right course to put her into office.

With our electoral winner-take-all system it can take much less than 50%. All she has to do is barely win the states she won and completely lose the states she lost. The biggest 11 states for 271 electors, winning 50.1% in each, only represents 28% of the population.

104 posted on 06/06/2007 1:19:44 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: donnab
how about taking away the tax shelters that the very very rich like kennedy and kerry just to name two hide their money in to get out of taxes....and then tax them equitably along with the very rich and the rich and the not so rich.

Oh, you're in trouble now! (tee hee) To dare suggest that the elite give up what is rightfully theirs! The audacity! We all (extra sarcasm) know how much they do for us and how they deserve it and more, we need to work harder to give them more to work with. /sarc

They won't even address such a question, just talk to others about our question, about how we don't understand if we ask such a question. ;-)

Besides, if they don't call out Algore or Pelosi or Babs, etc., on their gross personal misuse of 'gas guzzling' SUV's and private jets and investment dollars, we can't expect them to be accountable for something that hits even closer, such as taxes.

105 posted on 06/06/2007 1:20:20 PM PDT by fortunecookie
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
You make a point, but still, I don’t see the extreme in them that Hillary is suggesting. That lady truly wants Marxism. When she said that the oil companies make too much profit and when she is president that she’ll take those profits... I freaked. Profit is good. We are a free market. I think the Republicans do understand the free market, Hillary does not. That’s where the difference is.
106 posted on 06/06/2007 1:20:43 PM PDT by avacado
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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107 posted on 06/06/2007 1:20:47 PM PDT by rbosque (MSM = Miserable Socialist Morons.)
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Should I be donning my tinfoil hat? If this Commie shrew does get elected and starts messing with the free market I see shortages down the road. I worked supermarkets for years and all it takes is a couple of deliveries not arriving in a weeks time and it won’t take long for the shelves to start emptying. Didn’t her legislation “for the children” cause the flu shot shortage.
108 posted on 06/06/2007 1:21:38 PM PDT by 4yearlurker (Liberals, A terrorists best friend!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
“An uninsured person who goes to the hospital is more likely to die than an insured person,” Clinton said. “I mean, that is a fact. So what do we do? We have to build a political consensus. And that requires people to give up a little bit of their own turf in order to create this common ground.”

A pretty pithy synopsis of socialism if you ask me.

109 posted on 06/06/2007 1:21:59 PM PDT by Tamar1973 (Riding the Korean Wave, one BYJ movie at a time!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Earth to Hillary!....Shove your socialism!


110 posted on 06/06/2007 1:27:49 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
“An uninsured person who goes to the hospital is more likely to die than an insured person,” Clinton said. “I mean, that is a fact. So what do we do?"

We accept reality.

Some people can afford more than others. This is true of food, shelter, transportation, clothing, booze, fine Cuban cigars, or anything else you could imagine. Why should health care be any different?

Besides, the government cannot do any more than it already is doing to help the uninsured. All it can do is make sure that the insured die in larger numbers so there is no gap.

I really do believe that Hillary! Rodham (Clinton>'s plan eliminate the difference is just to kill more rich people.

111 posted on 06/06/2007 1:28:41 PM PDT by gridlock (Fred Dalton Thompson will be the Next President of the United States)
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To: stylecouncilor

Minimal makeoover to be sure...to the photographs that is.


112 posted on 06/06/2007 1:28:55 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

113 posted on 06/06/2007 1:33:43 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (I'm Fred, White and Blue!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Something has to be taken away from some people

That is irrational and evil you contemptable POS.

114 posted on 06/06/2007 1:33:52 PM PDT by mjp (Live & let live. I don't want to live in Mexico, Marxico, or Muslimico. Statism & high taxes suck.)
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To: Red Badger
Her “base” is eating this up!..............DUmmies.............

They will lick the boot on their neck if they think the other boot is on a conservative's neck.

115 posted on 06/06/2007 1:35:40 PM PDT by OSHA (Please, Fred, don't make me vote for Rudy.)
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To: OSHA

Leftists aren’t satisfied until everybody is equal......equally miserable, that is..........


116 posted on 06/06/2007 1:38:10 PM PDT by Red Badger (Bite your tongue. It tastes a lot better than crow................)
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To: OSHA
They will lick the boot on their neck if they think the other boot is on a conservative's neck.

Oh, that's good. I'm going to steal that!

117 posted on 06/06/2007 1:41:02 PM PDT by gridlock (A Liberal will lick the boot on his neck if he thinks the other boot is on a Conservative's neck.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Want to know what and how much are Hillary and Warren Buffet going to lose. . .Algore? Kerry? Dianne Feinstein? Barbara Boxer? Mr. Hillary?


118 posted on 06/06/2007 1:44:54 PM PDT by cricket (If you want to lose a mile; give a Lib an inch. . .)
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To: rintense

Where have I heard that before? Oh RIGHT...Karl Marx


119 posted on 06/06/2007 1:45:17 PM PDT by CassieGOP
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To: Lurker

My faith in the American voter and the electoral system is vitually zero. Hillary is plenty electable with enough fraud.

That said, this election is the Democrat’s to lose - and they’re workin’ real hard on losin’ it.


120 posted on 06/06/2007 1:45:17 PM PDT by Little Ray (Rudy Guiliani: If his wives can't trust him, why should we?)
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