Duh!
Pathetic. It is already illegal for anyone to hire an illegal. There is no need for any more laws making this illegal. The current laws just need to be enforced!
....If 12 million people suddenly decided to stop paying their taxes, I'll bet they could find all kinds of ways to enforce the tax laws. These people are lying so badly when they say we can't deport 12 million people (who may actually be 20). Only RINOs actually believe that; Dems could deport 12 million white South Africans in a heartbeat. They just don't want to deport 12 million uneducated Mexicans, because they know demographically, they are losing control of the nation unless they do. Their zeal is understandable; that of McCain, Graham and especially Kyl is especially absurd, given that they are agreeing to do away with their own party for generations to come.
I guarantee you that if someone with old-fashioned sense were in charge, the illegals could be taken care of. It could be done with decency and respect for human rights, and without excessive disruption to our economy. It would take a comprehensive plan, but not one that includes amnesty or even a right to remain.
1. Enforce the law. That means jail and fine employers of illegals.
2. Shut down the financial structures that have been put in place for illegals.
3. Pass a law that says that the children of illegals are not citizens.
4. Pass a law that takes public services away from illegals, and fight that law up the Supreme Court. It is time to revisit that terrible, legislative decision by the Supreme Court in the 80s that said that the children of illegals must be allowed to attend public schools. It was an outrageous exercise of judicial arrogance. That decision is a big part of why immigration has gotten so bad. It's a magnet for families, where it used to be just single men who snuck across.
5. Enforce the Law. Build the fence.
6. Enforce the law. Catch and deport all the illegals that you can. If you have to increase the budget of ICE a few billion, it is a pittance compared just to the health care costs that illegals cost us in San Diego county alone. Nationwide, illegals cost us hundreds of billions per year.
7. Increase the penalties for illegal entry into the US. They forfeit their cars if you catch them driving down the street. If they buy a house with money illegally gained through tax-free work in the US, I would not take their house, but I would impose a hefty fine against it.
8. Enforce the law. If they have fake ID's or engage in identity theft, they should do jail time equal to what you or I would get if we do the same thing.
9. Enforce the law. Station armed national guard troops at the border until the fence is proven to do the trick.
10. Enforce the law. Jail and fine enablers of illegals, who are engaging in conspiracy to violate the immigration statutes of the US. Not for people who are engaged in charity, but those who hide them or otherwise affirmatively assist the crime.
I would also take steps to minimize the disruption caused by 20 years (3 Bush terms and 2 Clinton ones) of neglect and outright contravention from the top. We have to understand that our nation's leaders caused this problem and the people who are here are just responding to a desire for economic betterment. Most of them are not criminals and most are decent people, and we should have respect for them as humans, even while we make absolutely clear that the days of our nation allowing this invasion to continue are over.
I would announce that the laws will begin to be enforced zealously as of a date certain, and allow those who will leave voluntarily a date by which they can leave without penalty, so long as they don't return illegally. Those that own property can apply for a period of time to remain in order to sell it. I don't think it will disrupt the real estate market because very few of them own a home. They can go back, apply as temporary workers, or apply for a visa if they have a skill we need. If they don't leave by that date, they will forever be barred from ever entering the US. That will clear out a lot of them.
I would go after the employers first, so that they release the illegal workers and the workers start self deporting. At the same time there would be some high-profile actions at large employers of illegals--meat packing plants for example. Both workers and employers would be brought to justice. That would lead to more self deporting. The more serious actions, incarceration and systematic large scale deportation, would be for the hard core stragglers, who refuse to leave. However, as time went on, and it became more and more evident that it would be futile to try to continue to remain and work here, the cycle of self deportation would accelerate.
The process would take, all told 3-5 years, I believe.
These are just a handful of measures that could be taken, most of which consist simply of "Enforce the Law". A candidate that makes this his policy will win handily in the next election, I believe. If not, if a majority of Americans will vote for allowing the death of American sovereignty, traditions and culture, then we are done for anyway.
LOL! Illegal aliens are just as unpopular as trial lawyers. But if the U.S. adopts the advise in this article, and if it works, then at least one of these distasteful groups---namely the trial lawyers---will get rid of the other group. Sounds like a win-win for both the lawyers and the rule-of-law Americans.
Not a bad idea - let private enterprise (lawyers) go after the employers of illegals - I think it would work. Taking it a step further, have visa applicants buy a $5000 bond in order to enter the U.S. - if they fail to leave, like Mohammed Atta’s boys, let bounty hunters track them down and deport them for the $5000 per head bounty. No cost to the taxpayers with bounty hunters.
ML/NJ
The solution is to attack the problem from many different angles:
- as the article states, go after illegal-hiring employers.
- rescind the anchor baby laws.
- cut off the welfare freebies.
- build a border barrier (and guard it with a sufficient number of troops)
We do not need a 400-page bill. We only need the following:
1. A fence
2. A Federal database that contains everyone (including you and me) who can legally work in this country. Name, DOB, SSN, maybe a picture, maybe other stuff.
3. A law that says any employer who does not check the database before hiring gets five years in jail, $10,000 fine for each illegal working for him/her.
4. A decree that gives illegals 30 days to get out of the country at the risk of five years in jail. (Suggestion: do not go to the Mexican border during those 30 days.)
First, anyone who thinks private law suits are the solution to policy problems just has been ignorant of what has been happening in the real of so-called juris-prudence in the last 20-30 years in the US.
Second, there is a legal technical issue that arises from this called standing. In order to bring suit you have to be able to demonstrate a substantial injury to yourself as an individual, not an abstract injury, but a real one. It is a fundamental principal of American jurisprudence, deriving from common law, a fundamental constitutional principal, and one that is not lightly cast aside because it means that lawsuits could explode as we file against each other for a host of imagined slights and injuries.
For instance, members of Congress generally lack standing to sue the executive branch over interpretation in enfrocing a statute. Knowing that the meatpacker 1000 miles away hires illegal aliens does not mean that I have a direct injury. I would have to show that I was denied employment as a consequence, or that I suffered food-poisoning as a direct result of using unlawful labor.
This is a simplistic and not well thought out solution to a law enforcement problem.
ML/NJ
Go after the businesses, because slavery is evil... see it even works from a liberal perspective
YEP!
If an employer hires someone whos name and #s don't match - then the employer should pay.....
Maybe - if I find out that an illegal is using my SS#, then I should perhaps be able to press charges against the company that hired the illegal that is using my SS#.....
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I think that this could put a big hurt on the "slave labor" practices that too many employers are taking advantage of.
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Perhaps this might cause a bit of inflation as the cost of labor increases - but that is a fair price.....
Build the damn wall and stop coming up with “solutions”.
I like the sound of it.
The Comprehensive Self Deportation Plan...
I am always amazed at those who want to put the burden of playing border patrol on employers. Like they are some branch of the government just waiting to do it’s bidding. It is like a local government requiring a developer to institute a “Home Owners Association” in order to get building permits. The HOA then does the bidding of the local government, to satisfy all the control freaks. The control freaks do not care about anything being privately owned, they’re just interested in controlling it.
If we are to burden some citizens with the loss of their liberty if they do not play Border Patrol when conducting commerce, why not treat every citizen equally and threaten every citizen with the loss of their liberty if they do not play Border Patrol when conducting commerce?
If folks who sold illegals food, clothing, housing, medicine or gasoline faced sanctions for doing so, the illegals could not survive up here.
Trading services for cash is really no different than trading cash for services. It’s like saying that a Whore is bad but the John is not. The Whore and the John are both engaged in commerce.
In Georgia, it seems that the small Building Contractors and the Landscapers have a free pass to hire illegals. These people need to be required to observe the laws also. I, for one, refuse to hire anyone who won’t certify that their workers are in the country legally.
Email going around is a good idea:
A Moratorium on all immigration, except for hardship,
and make a *plan to clean up this mess during that time.
*FEDS NOW:
FENCE - build the entire length
ENFORCEMENT - of all laws on the books
DEPORT - all illegals when they are found
SANCTION - employers heavily who hire them
A side benefit of this may be to create a shortage of lawyers available to pursue frivolous lawsuits.