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Could it be the immigration standoff was planned to increase donations?
06/12/2007 | me

Posted on 06/12/2007 4:55:46 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX

I keep hearing that although donations to the national Republican Party are way down, donations to local and state parties and individual politicians are up since this fight over the immigration bill started. This theory might qualify me for a tin hat, but what if this fight over the immigration bill was designed to get the conservative base all riled up? I'm sure donations have been down recently, since people are, at the least, uncertain about events in Iraq and Afghanistan. So perhaps the powers that be in the Republican Party needed an issue that would bring in contributions somewhere, and they figured illegal immigration would do just that.

I know. I'm the quintessential cynic, but I wouldn't put it past them.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: deathofthegop; illegalimmigration; immigration; invasion; politics; rnc; scaretactics; vampirebill
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1 posted on 06/12/2007 4:55:47 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX
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To: Pining_4_TX

Politicians are not that smart. Elaborate schemes and clever conspiracies are not in their playbook. This fiasco is nothing more than a fiasco. If something good comes from it, it was not planned, it was an accident.


2 posted on 06/12/2007 4:58:38 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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No, I don’t think so. I think they will end up with less money rather than more.

Not only that, but it is far more desirable from their point of view that people should donate to the RNC. That means they control the money, and have more leverage over the candidates, because they can give or withhold funds depending on how well the get with the program.

The last thing they would want is for all that money to go direct to the candidates, leaving them without obligation to the RNC and the party leadership.


3 posted on 06/12/2007 5:04:37 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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Who, in their right mind, would give any of these liars $$. I don’t care if they’re local, state, or federal politicians. They’re all elitists who are in-your-face arrogant.


4 posted on 06/12/2007 5:06:49 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Pining_4_TX

At this point I’m only donating to candidates with a strong stance on border security and a record to prove it.


5 posted on 06/12/2007 5:08:27 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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To: Pining_4_TX

I wrote SEN Lamar Alexander(R)TN a year ago and told him what to expect. Him along with my REP Duncan(R)TN what to expect.
They never answered. They thought the war would would be the issue they could stick with. They are in trouble now.


6 posted on 06/12/2007 5:09:55 PM PDT by eyedigress (Fredheads UNITE!)
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...tried calling the local Party people once. The call was not returned.


7 posted on 06/12/2007 5:11:39 PM PDT by familyop
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Not another dime!


8 posted on 06/12/2007 5:13:15 PM PDT by bennowens
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To: Pining_4_TX

Seeing that the RNC fired ALL of their phone donation solicitors shortly after this began due to lack of donations (and the immigration issue being the latest reason callers were giving), I doubt that this is true.

Anyways conservatives would and could donate directly to any conservative candidate they wanted, rather than going through the national RNC (who then determines which republicans get the money). Always better to donate to an individual candidate than thru the RNC, they know you and know they will have to account to you.


9 posted on 06/12/2007 5:17:44 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man
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Politicians are not that smart. Elaborate schemes and clever conspiracies are not in their playbook.

Um, have you actually read the amnesty bill? Looks pretty elaborate to me. I particularly like the embedded/buried loopholes you could drive a MAC truck through.

10 posted on 06/12/2007 5:18:25 PM PDT by AFreeBird (Will NOT vote for Rudy. <--- notice the period)
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No, Sorry but crazy idea. They would want to get the base excited for them, to support them. It really does not do them any good to have the money go elsewhere.

Simple fact of the matter is that this is one of Bush's crazy ideas. He's always wanted it. And the Service industry wants it because it depresses wages (requiring us to pay more for social programs.)

The beltway has nothing but contempt for the working American.

11 posted on 06/12/2007 5:19:12 PM PDT by Sci Fi Guy (Now more that ever let's pray for victory in the war.)
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I don’t think so.


12 posted on 06/12/2007 5:19:48 PM PDT by airborne (Airborne - Ranger - Vietnam veteran! Duncan Hunter for President!)
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Spot on.


13 posted on 06/12/2007 5:20:00 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Reagan never called me a "bigot".)
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To: Pining_4_TX

If that’s their strategy , it’s backfiring horribly.


14 posted on 06/12/2007 5:25:56 PM PDT by Neu Pragmatist (No bill is better than a bill legalizing 12 to 20 million new Dims ......)
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To: cripplecreek

That is why I am supporting Senator Inhofe for reelection because he is standing up with his short bill named ENFORCE which Judiciary won’t hear and the President doesn’t seem to care.

I am not donating to a State Party or any other group — direct to candidates this time.


15 posted on 06/12/2007 5:27:55 PM PDT by PhiKapMom ( Inhofe for Senate 08 -- Broken Glass Republican -- vote out the RATs in 2008)
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To: Pining_4_TX
Fwiw, I just had the California Republican Party call me yesterday looking for money. The appeal was 100% about fighting illegal immigration.

Last time they called me, it was before the election, and I gave them an earful about Schwarzenneger and the lack of border enforcement. The guy argued with me for like 10 minutes, it's not a state issue, Arnold can't do anything, blah, blah, blah. Wouldn't give an inch. I said no money till you guys get serious about the border and a few other things.

Interestingly, the call I recieved yesterday was from Minnesota.

16 posted on 06/12/2007 5:31:08 PM PDT by ecomcon
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“..donations to the national Republican Party are way down..”

You can say that again. Whenever the NRP calls, I see it on my caller ID and I let them record a message which I will never respond to. Sorry, no more contributions until they take off the kneepads.


17 posted on 06/12/2007 5:37:49 PM PDT by 353FMG (Some say it's a melting pot, others liken it to a pressure cooker.)
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If this were a concerted effort by the Republicans, don’t you think they’d have been able to corral the likes of Specter and McCain? Or even President Bush?

What the Republicans have done is squash John McCain and royally ticked off their base.

They truly don’t get it. Attaching a bunch of extra strings and inconveniences onto an already bad amnesty bill isn’t going to make people happy.


18 posted on 06/12/2007 5:38:25 PM PDT by CheyennePress
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To: Pining_4_TX

bttt


19 posted on 06/12/2007 5:39:59 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Pining_4_TX

Bush has been wanting this since he was Governor.


20 posted on 06/12/2007 5:41:03 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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