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Bible has lots to say about immigration
seattlepi.com ^ | May 19, 2006 | Anthony B. Robinson

Posted on 06/15/2007 2:21:03 PM PDT by berstbubble

How many religious leaders have you heard address the topic of immigrant rights? How many sermons have you heard on immigration reform? If there were a scripture-to-sermon ratio test, one would expect to hear about 50 sermons on immigrants for every one sermon on homosexuality. That's roughly the ratio of biblical utterances on the two topics.

The overall theme of the Bible's teaching is summed up in Exodus 22:21, "You shall not wrong or oppress a resident alien, for you were aliens in the land of Egypt." Reminding the people of biblical Israel that they had been slaves in Egypt, the Hebrews are enjoined to treat aliens, foreigners and sojourners in their midst fairly and with respect. Leviticus 19:34 echoes and expands upon the Exodus teaching. "The alien who resides among you shall be to you as the citizen among you; you shall love the alien as yourself, for you were aliens in the land of Egypt; I am the Lord your God." From the New Testament Letter to the Hebrews we hear, "Do not neglect to show hospitality to strangers, for by doing so some have entertained angels unawares."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; bible; immigrantlist; immigration; scripture
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I found this Googling "Immigration" and it is a year old but I haven't heard any of the "pro-Bill" people use this yet. We can probably expect it in the next few weeks. I guess this is where the "Sancutary" Movement is rooted.
1 posted on 06/15/2007 2:21:05 PM PDT by berstbubble
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To: berstbubble

What is posted is two of the first three paragraphs of a much longer article (I haven’t acquired the Posting Muscles yet and I don’t know about stepping on copyright so I am trying to be careful).


2 posted on 06/15/2007 2:23:09 PM PDT by berstbubble
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To: berstbubble

Yes, but those aliens were not invading illegally. We have specific avenues by which immigrants are allowed to cross borders. Those avenues are based on securing the rights of citizens already present. To circumvent that basis is to abandon all premise of a free society.


3 posted on 06/15/2007 2:23:27 PM PDT by arderkrag (Libertarian Nutcase (Political Compass Coordinates: 9.00, -2.62 - www.politicalcompass.org))
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To: berstbubble

And Saint Attila raised the hand grenade up on high, saying, “O Lord, bless this Thy hand grenade that with it Thou mayest blow Thine enemies to tiny bits, in Thy mercy.” And the Lord did grin and the people did feast upon the lambs and sloths and carp and anchovies and orangutans and breakfast cereals, and fruit bats and large chu... [At this point, the friar is urged by Brother Maynard to “skip a bit, brother”]... And the Lord spake, saying, “First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin, then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it.” Amen.


4 posted on 06/15/2007 2:24:48 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (I believe that's my stapler....)
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To: berstbubble
Except for one little problem... the Bible gives us rules for how the individual acts, not the government.
5 posted on 06/15/2007 2:25:05 PM PDT by mnehring (Virtus Junxit Mors Non Separabit)
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To: berstbubble
The alien who resides among you shall be to you as the citizen among you; you shall love the alien as yourself, for you were aliens in the land of Egypt; I am the Lord your God.
Ummm, yeah, only most had to wait 4 generations before they could become members of the congregation, some had to wait 10, and others could never become members for all eternity. The primitive Hebrews were many things, but they were not assimulationists--rather they were commanded to jealously guard their cultural identity (Full disclosure: I'm Jewish.) Hence: many of those they displaced, they destroyed.
6 posted on 06/15/2007 2:25:34 PM PDT by Asclepius (protectionists would outsource our dignity and prosperity in return for illusory job security)
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I had the Catholic channel on last week...EWTN, Raymond Arroyo’s show — Worldview. He interviewed a Heritage Foundation scholar for the better part of an hour. Very anti-illegal immigration. No pious statements by Catholic prelates, thank you. Simple common sense, bottom line cost to the American taxpayer. What this bill will cost you and the country if not stopped. I loved it.


7 posted on 06/15/2007 2:26:01 PM PDT by hershey
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To: berstbubble

How many references to illegal aliens?

Shouldn’t we still render unto Caesar what belongs to the nation? Or are we biblicly instructed to choose which laws we will honor and which we will reject?


8 posted on 06/15/2007 2:26:16 PM PDT by weegee (Libs want us to learn to live with terrorism, but if a gun is used they want to rewrite the Const.)
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To: mnehrling

Amen to that. The Bible was never meant to be a basis by which to run a tyrannnical nanny state using Biblical law.


9 posted on 06/15/2007 2:26:48 PM PDT by arderkrag (Libertarian Nutcase (Political Compass Coordinates: 9.00, -2.62 - www.politicalcompass.org))
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To: berstbubble

The biblical plagues of locusts more accurately describe our present situation.


10 posted on 06/15/2007 2:27:08 PM PDT by VR-21
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Jesus himself obeyed laws that he didn’t agree with and he encouraged others to do the same.

Render unto Cesar....


11 posted on 06/15/2007 2:27:57 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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To: berstbubble

How many times do I have to say it? Context. Context. CONTEXT!!! This was referring to legal aliens with a Z-visa.


12 posted on 06/15/2007 2:28:39 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I didn't see it in my rear view mirror.)
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To: berstbubble
"You shall not wrong or oppress a resident alien, for you were aliens in the land of Egypt." Reminding the people of biblical Israel that they had been slaves in Egypt, the Hebrews are enjoined to treat aliens, foreigners and sojourners in their midst fairly and with respect. Leviticus 19:34 echoes and expands upon the Exodus teaching. "The alien who resides among you shall be to you as the citizen among you; you shall love the alien as yourself, for you were aliens in the land of Egypt; I am the Lord your God."

Culturally, the context of these verses are significantly different from today's situation. Borders were more fluid and there was no massive WELFARE system that the aliens felt they were entitled to. Second contextural aspect was that they were there within the bounds of the law at that time, yet the sovernity of the country they were in was supreme, not being perverted as in today's setting.

From the New Testament Letter to the Hebrews we hear, "Do not neglect to show hospitality to strangers, for by doing so some have entertained angels unawares."

An individual who enters your home in the middle of the night is a thief, a lawbreaker, not subject to this passage. Showing hospitality to a 'stranger' does not even come close to today's situation as in most instances these 'strangers' were often just passing through the area on a pilgrimage or business trip. Remember too, there were no Motel 6s with their lights on, and travelers relied upon the hospitality of the locals.

14 posted on 06/15/2007 2:29:40 PM PDT by Godzilla (Liberalism - a mental disease)
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To: berstbubble

The current leader of Venezuela says “Render unto Caesar”!Just before he takes your oil company!


15 posted on 06/15/2007 2:31:33 PM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: cripplecreek
1. The laws we currently have support my viewpoint.

2. Jesus, in his earthly mortal coil, lived under a tyrannical state. There was no legal way for citizens to take action, oppose government action, etc. We live in a far better and more accessible system that the ancient Roman Empire.
16 posted on 06/15/2007 2:32:37 PM PDT by arderkrag (Libertarian Nutcase (Political Compass Coordinates: 9.00, -2.62 - www.politicalcompass.org))
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To: berstbubble

Let my people go!


17 posted on 06/15/2007 2:32:53 PM PDT by Argus
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To: berstbubble
The Bible (unlike our shamnesty amigos) does not equate legal immigration with illegal immigration.
18 posted on 06/15/2007 2:33:23 PM PDT by SecondAmendment
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To: berstbubble
The overall theme of the Bible's teaching is summed up in Exodus 22:21, "You shall not wrong or oppress a resident alien, for you were aliens in the land of Egypt."
I smell ozone.

"Resident alien" just sounded a little too much like American legalese.

I checked, any one know which version uses "resident", or is it the writer's spin?

19 posted on 06/15/2007 2:37:17 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: berstbubble

The Bible demands of the stranger and those who come to sojourn that he act moral. Those who enter illegally and thereafter remain illegally fall outside and are beyond our own moral obligation to follow these Biblical precepts.

And lets not forget the Tower of Babel

Another take:

http://www.beliefnet.com/story/191/story_19129_2.html

and

http://article.nationalreview.com/print/?q=MWU0Y2Y0ZWNkZmE2OWI1Mzg4YmI1ZmMzY2QzMzA5ZTA=


20 posted on 06/15/2007 2:38:31 PM PDT by HockeyPop
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