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Only from the mind of TheBattman ^ | July 15, 2007 | Me

Posted on 07/15/2007 1:50:52 PM PDT by TheBattman

OK - so I wanted to post a Mitch Albom hit piece - but realized upon trying to post that the Detroit (not so)Free Press is blocked.

Now - I at least think I have a clue about the FR problems with materials being posted (although it seems that the sources would be glad to be quoted to increase hits to their own site, and to float the name about... but that is another argument)...And I understand that legal agreements have been reached with several media sources that require only excerpts, while there are apparently some that are completely banned/blocked.

Now - my question is twofold:

First - I have read several times where Admin Moderators have posted that we should check some mythical list for those sources we can and cannot site - and if they can be posted in complete, or have to be excerpted. But where is this list? Either I am blind, or dumber than I thought - because I have looked all over every page I can, and have even done a search using several different terms...

Second - What is up with some sources not even being usable in any form? I can understand even not being able to paste ANY of their text - but a title with a link should, logically (uh-oh, we can't have that) that should not infringe on any copyright.

So - someone, please point me to the official FR policy. Thanks.


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KEYWORDS: blocked; excerpt; faq; help; satan
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To: Springman
Don’t worry about it, Mitch ain’t worth it.

You may be right - but it was something worth kicking around a bit, as it was so full of wrong, misleading, and even lies (surprise from a uber-leftist in a Commie Rag like the Detroit not-Free Press).

21 posted on 07/15/2007 7:14:01 PM PDT by TheBattman (I've got TWO QUESTIONS for you....)
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To: xcamel

So in other words - the courts have been used, with FreeRepublic as the victim, to rewrite the U.S. Code on Fair Use... or so it would appear.

I wonder - does DU have the same restrictions and threats of lawsuits? Or do they not even bother to find sources for their rantings?


22 posted on 07/15/2007 7:24:06 PM PDT by TheBattman (I've got TWO QUESTIONS for you....)
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To: IronJack
The way around this is to paraphrase.

Ok - so what do you then put in the "source" box? Do I put trash in there, or what?

23 posted on 07/15/2007 7:29:23 PM PDT by TheBattman (I've got TWO QUESTIONS for you....)
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To: TheBattman

List the source if you want. But since you are not posting the ARTICLE, but your comments on the article, the “source” is actually YOU. If you have any questions, I’d contact the Admins and clear it with them first. But unless the Left has repealed free speech, commenting on an article is still protected under the Constitution.


24 posted on 07/16/2007 8:34:30 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: TheBattman; Springman
You are correct in noting that the FR forum software does not allow Gannett http's in the Source field. Generally, when posting from a Gannett source you should place the link in the part of the post where you would otherwise place the text of the article. If you wish, you should then click Report Abuse and ask to have the link inserted where it otherwise should have been.

As for The Detroit News, I have not seen where it has been "sold" by Gannett and I am not aware of the status of its Joint Operating Agreement with The Detroit Free Press. Suffice it to say that, if the two editorial pages are still one and the same, it is not likely that The Detroit News will be removed from the Gannett "list." For your safety, please understand.

If you know more about the above than we do back here, please let us know.

25 posted on 07/17/2007 7:17:31 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: TheBattman
I wonder - does DU have the same restrictions and threats of lawsuits?
Not sure about DU, but another left-wing site called Common Dreams routinely posts the FULL TEXT of articles from the Detroit Free Press.
See: Google search for "Detroit Free Press" at site:www.commondreams.org
It would seem to me that -- if FR had the time and money -- we could re-fight this issue in the courts, claiming "selective enforcement."
If the Detroit Free Press knowingly allows Common Dreams to post the full test of their articles, it would considerably weaken their case against FR doing the same thing, IMHO.

26 posted on 07/17/2007 7:35:47 AM PDT by RonDog
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To: Admin Moderator; Jim Robinson
Updated FR Excerpt and Link Only or Deny Posting List due to Copyright Complaints

Don't you think it would be smart to put that link on the "Posting Comment" page that each user sees when they are posting a comment?

27 posted on 07/17/2007 7:46:20 AM PDT by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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Thanks for the reply. It’s the strangest thing here in Detroit.

Gannett now owns the Free Press, Media News Group owns the News.
However the JOA is still in effect, so guess we can’t post from either.

Bummer, cause there are good articles from the Detroit News.

28 posted on 07/17/2007 9:42:38 AM PDT by Springman (Why is ? coming up, when I use ')
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To: Admin Moderator
Moderator, I have been using the April 5, 2004 Updated FR Excerpt and Link Only or Deny Posting List due to Copyright Complaints for posting info.

I notice there are a lot of AM edits. Am I reading the original lists correctly as having been edited to make them current?

29 posted on 07/17/2007 10:03:30 AM PDT by greyfoxx39
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