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Russian military men predicting war against USA
charter97 ^ | 18/07/2007

Posted on 07/18/2007 3:38:45 PM PDT by lizol

Russian military men predicting war against USA

17:00, 18/07/2007

The blood-curbing declarations have been made: Moscow military experts are suggesting terrible scenario according to which the USA is going to attack Russia for providing itself with access to the Siberian natural resources .The cold war participants’ assumption is very clear, Manfred Quirring from the “Die Welt” German edition writes.

“The war between Russia and the USA is probable in the near 10-15 years”, Major- General Aleksandr Vladimirov does not exclude. And its aim, according to him, “is obvious even now. It is the removal of the powerful geopolitical rival capable of deleting the USA from the earth’s surface within 30 minute”.

Furthermore, according to the military man, the USA wishes to provide itself with access to the natural resources of Siberia and the Far East and threaten the rest of the world with “armed victory and technological power of its weapons”.

Vladimirov is the vice-president of the Russia’s board of military experts. He met with other Russian distinguished military experts and specialists on the global security for discussing when and why the USA is to unleash war against Russia and whether it is going to enlist it or not.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: coldwar2; communism; paranoia; reddawn; russia; sovietunion
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To: Max in Utah

Everybody keeps saying China, China, China, like we are not ruthless war mongers waiting to devestate the world with our nuclear weapons.

Wait, am I at Free Republic? I thought I was at DU.

Sorry.

I just want to be loved.


41 posted on 07/18/2007 4:42:54 PM PDT by Greg F (<><)
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To: Max in Utah
They'll start swinging from trees next, and tossing stool samples.

Please, don't give them ideas.

42 posted on 07/18/2007 4:54:57 PM PDT by Ancesthntr
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To: mamelukesabre

The Chinese screwed up and telegraphed their intentions way too soon. Our anti missile technology won’t take much to adapt to become anti-satellite either. What we are left with is a hole in our strategy that we have to cover, however, even with star wars and asat capabilities. We need fast and cheap launch to LEO of light to medium payloads. Time for the rocketmen to get busy. Burt Rutan has the start of an idea (along with several others btw). Heavy payloads (and geosynchronous orbits) aren’t as important and manned missions are even less important at this point.


43 posted on 07/18/2007 5:02:30 PM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: lizol

“Russian military men predicting war against USA”

Three privates and a corporal talking big after polihing of a jug of homemade vodka. Big deal.

You should have heard the stuff I used to talk about after a few drinks at the E club.


44 posted on 07/18/2007 5:10:46 PM PDT by Twisted Roots
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To: RKV
Negative on that.

We need a method of knocking out satellites without blowing them up with a missile. Lasers would be better. Maybe a seek and destroy orbiting vehicle outfitted with a laser. WE cant have earth orbit space being scattered with debris. Too much debris would eventually knock out all satellites in orbit, including our own.

45 posted on 07/18/2007 5:14:53 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Those that can do, do. Those that can't do, teach. Those that can't do either, run for office)
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To: lizol

Мы ОБРЕЧЕНЫ!


46 posted on 07/18/2007 5:19:11 PM PDT by uglybiker (relaxing in a luxuriant cloud of quality, aromatic, pre-owned tobacco essence)
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To: puppypusher

Yep. Idiots, so they take out the USA with nukes and smile in their underground cities and fly over our skies because they have oil for air power and we won’t. Then they can have a nice Chinese invasion after their nuclear arsenal has been spent.

Such scenerios also come out in the book of Revelations and other modern day prophets. Russia is the beast. She goes off into destruction. Once they have done such a heinous crime, those of us left will be build (as we did in every major US war) advanced weapons that will incinerate every last living being left in Russia. Then we will install America II indefinately on their piece of land.

Many people laughed at me in 2001 when I told them our attack on the Trade Towers was coordinated effort of the Chinese with Russian blessing. This is now becoming clear as facts. I was also laughed at as a nut-ball with people telling how much their military was in shambles, how the West had to try and help Russia with the Kursk submarine etc.

Here’s how it goes down for those listening: Iran begins it’s regional war with Israel and uses WMD, chemical missles from Syria, nuclear proxy from Iran. Global depression occurs as the price per barrel tops $150, $7.00 gallon of gas. Israel uses the Sampson Option and is considered the victor although I don’t like to think of it this way, millions of innocents dead.

Their is a peace deal that is arranged by the then current PM, Benjamin Netanyahu. This deal lasts 3 years. During the 3 years...

A nuclear incident, what I saw as either a nuetron bomb or a dirty bomb in one of our port cities causes a heavy loss of life and further worsens our depression in the USA and globally. China shuts off it’s food aid to North Korea. North attacks the South, using nuclear weapons. We become involved but North Korea overruns the South. Death toll in the millions. Chinese casualties from this conflict give them the excuse to attack our Pacific fleet and at this time, they invade Taiwan and threaten the Japanese with annihalation. Japan goes nuclear. Russia begins skirmishes on the European front and shuts off energy to Europe. This war (mostly in the sea of Japan/Korea) accelerates with Russia, China and few other nations, I believe it’s 9 total, nuke the USA in an all out nuclear attack. We retaliate. Russia overruns Europe, still able to wage war with their own energy supply. The USA and Europe are temporarily defenseless.

The Chinese turn on Russia and invade. We rebuild faster then what these nations expect. We pulverize Russia and China with some kind of advanced weapon I do not fully understand. 1,000 years of peace after this conflict. According to Revelations 1/3 of mankind dead and 200 million combatants. I live in faith, not in fear.


47 posted on 07/18/2007 5:31:11 PM PDT by quant5
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To: miliantnutcase

Yes and that is why Russia wisely chose to never try to attack even at the height of their conventional superiority on the European front. What did Reagan do? Build a crapload of nukes, MX nukes, nuke submarines, nuke strategic bombers. What does Bush do? Ask Congress and this was two weeks ago for nukes and for Congress to tell him NO! What will Russia think this time when in 3-4 more years their conventional power has been fully restored and they themselves are now building more nukes? Methinks they will try it this time.


48 posted on 07/18/2007 5:37:47 PM PDT by quant5
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To: PeterFinn

Great. Now Canada can spend some real money on defense instead of relying on the USA. From what I hear they are great fighters, just not much of them!


49 posted on 07/18/2007 5:39:34 PM PDT by quant5
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To: mamelukesabre

Yes that is true. Other energy weapons exist such as plasma to also do the same job. Lot’s of free solar energy for as much power as you need.


50 posted on 07/18/2007 5:41:48 PM PDT by quant5
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To: mamelukesabre

Negative to your negative. We are going to have to 1) harden our stuff and 2) clear paths for our stuff (minesweep?). Otherwise we’re vulnerable no matter what method we use to attack. And by the way lasers take a bunch of energy. They can work for a shootdown, but not to clear a path.


51 posted on 07/18/2007 5:46:00 PM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: lizol

Dig it —

“Russian military men predicting war against USA”

...has the same meaning as...

“Russian military men predicting war with USA”

Changing ‘against’ to ‘with’ does not change the meaning of the headline. With is synonymous with against. They mean the same thing.

So when Bush says, “If you’re not with us, you’re against us,” it’s like... whoa, dude. LOL


52 posted on 07/18/2007 5:47:03 PM PDT by gcruse (Let's strike Iran while it's hot.)
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To: lizol
'It is the removal of the powerful geopolitical rival capable of deleting the USA from the earth’s surface within 30 minute”. '

I hear you Carl; but do not forget what we can wipe out the russian bastards, at least as fast.

53 posted on 07/18/2007 5:50:49 PM PDT by gedeon3
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To: quant5
Revelations does not mention anything about the new world. My theory on this...?

The bible totally ignores the new world because the new world was a non-player(insignificant) in the days prior to 1000AD. In the new testament and in Revelations, it is still ignored, because in the end days, the new world will AGAIN be a non-player. The USA will not exist as a world power in the final battle and will not participate.

54 posted on 07/18/2007 5:52:28 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Those that can do, do. Those that can't do, teach. Those that can't do either, run for office)
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To: quant5
I said the same about the Russians, and people looked at me as if I were crazy. Those bastards have never, and will never, stop being our enemies. The same goes for the chicoms.
55 posted on 07/18/2007 5:53:42 PM PDT by gedeon3
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To: mamelukesabre
The USA will not exist as a world power in the final battle and will not participate.

I wondered about that part too, and thought of: 1) America is neutralized by a massive nuclear strike; or: 2) Yellowstone blows apart, covering a large portion of the Lower 48 with volcanic ash.

56 posted on 07/18/2007 8:29:47 PM PDT by Max in Utah (O Great and Benevolent Rulers of America: WHERE'S OUR FENCE?!)
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To: Max in Utah

I don’t think there is anyone on the planet that can take out america except america...at least not without some form of treachery, an ally stabs us in the back for instance, or a horrible president invites the UN to run our government. I think we will somehow do ourselve in. Probably a combination of economic disasters, natural disasters, political and corporate corruption, and liberalism.


57 posted on 07/18/2007 8:54:11 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Those that can do, do. Those that can't do, teach. Those that can't do either, run for office)
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To: lizol; Lukasz; strategofr; GSlob; spanalot; Thunder90; Tailgunner Joe; propertius; REactor; ...
Russia/Soviet/Coldwar2 PING!!!

To be added or removed from this list, please FReepmail me!!!

58 posted on 07/18/2007 9:04:29 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: quant5

The Chinese will experience a coup overthrowing the Chinese Communist Party during the war (Exposing them as being controlled from Moscow) and then turn on Russia as a US ally.


59 posted on 07/18/2007 9:09:19 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Both china and russia view the US as a bigger threat then each other.


60 posted on 07/18/2007 10:41:24 PM PDT by CJ Wolf
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