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Hillary's "Progressivism" Sounds Awfully Liberal
Townhall.com ^ | July 24, 2007 | Amanda Carpenter

Posted on 07/24/2007 2:00:29 PM PDT by DCJeanGrey

n the third televised Democratic presidential debate, Sen. Hillary Clinton (D.-N.Y.) said she would rather be called a "modern day progressive" than a liberal.

"I prefer the word 'progressive,'" Clinton said when asked if she would use the word "liberal" to describe herself via a YouTube video clip made by Rob Porter from Irvine, California.

Tuesday’s debate, held in South Carolina and hosted by CNN, Google and YouTube was billed as a "historic" event. The sponsors asked YouTube users to submit their questions online in 30-second video clips. The clips were then played for the candidates and moderator Anderson Cooper asked follow up questions.

Clinton lamented that the word "liberal" had been "turned on its head" to be "made to seem as though it’s a word that describes big government, totally contrary to what its meaning was in the 19th and early 20th century."

"I consider myself a modern progressive," Clinton said. "Someone who believes strongly in individual rights and freedoms, who believes that we are better as a society when we're working together."

A few of Clinton’s answers, however, sounded like they came from a big, government liberal.

Clinton used a question about registering women for Selective Service to discuss finding ways to get more young people to serve the government.

"I do think that women should register," she said. "We’ve got to look for more ways for universal national service."

She mentioned a bill she introduced in the Senate to create a public service academy that would provide free college education to more than 5,000 students a year in exchange for a five year commitment to work for the U.S. government.

"We’ve got to get young people back into public service," Clinton emphasized at the debate.

In the course of answering a question about global warming, Clinton discussed a new government program she would create to pay for green energy projects. She said as President she would get money to pay for it "by taking away the tax breaks for oil companies, which have gotten much greater under Bush and Cheney."

At no time Monday evening did Clinton bring up her plan to implement universal health care. She also stayed silent while other candidates were asked to outline their positions on gay marriage. No questions related to illegal immigration were asked of any of the candidates.


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1 posted on 07/24/2007 2:00:31 PM PDT by DCJeanGrey
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To: DCJeanGrey

The how can we fool them today liberal bombed big time.


2 posted on 07/24/2007 2:01:14 PM PDT by Tarpon
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To: Tarpon

She said she prefers to be called progressive. But she didn’t deny that she is liberal. The term liberal has fallen out of favor by the types of people who advocate certain changes in government and society. But they still believe in those changes.


3 posted on 07/24/2007 2:04:03 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: DCJeanGrey
In the third televised Democratic presidential debate, Sen. Hillary Clinton (D.-N.Y.) said she would rather be called a "modern day progressive" than a liberal.

Well, I call her a socialist power-mad bee-otch. Wonder how she'd feel about that?

4 posted on 07/24/2007 2:04:25 PM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Tarpon
"I prefer the word 'progressive,'" Clinton said...

That's because Progressive IS TO THE LEFT of LIBERAL!

5 posted on 07/24/2007 2:05:04 PM PDT by Restore (see the Cool Aviation Blog at http://coolaviation.blogspot.com/)
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To: DCJeanGrey

“Someone who believes strongly in individual rights and freedoms, who believes that we are better as a society when we’re working together.”

Contradicts herself in the same sentance. “Working Together” for Hillary means government regulation and guidance.


6 posted on 07/24/2007 2:06:26 PM PDT by ops33 (Retired USAF Senior Master Sergeant)
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To: DCJeanGrey

It’s communism by the drink, no matter what she calls it.


7 posted on 07/24/2007 2:06:30 PM PDT by vetsvette (Bring Him Back)
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To: DCJeanGrey

A ‘progressive’ is left of liberal...


8 posted on 07/24/2007 2:07:04 PM PDT by tje
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To: DCJeanGrey
Spell "progressive!

m-a-r-x-i-s-t!

*******

Give me a synonym for "progressive"!

"communist"

*******

Give me an acronym for "progressive"!

DRPCB*

Dirty
Rotten
Pinko
Commie
Bedwetter

9 posted on 07/24/2007 2:08:19 PM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: DCJeanGrey

She said she represents change. She might not know this, but there will be change with or without her. If she represents change, I represent whirled peas.


10 posted on 07/24/2007 2:14:52 PM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
The term liberal has fallen out of favor

The left has a long history of hijacking words and symbols with good connotations to hide behind. Liberal used to be a good word but has been totally ruined by the left. Progressive still has its good connotations, hence the hijack. The left, normally represented by the color red, has recently hijacked the conservative's color of blue, and even worse made the conservatives out to be the reds.

The left is a snake driven by evil forces that must shed it's skin periodically. This is only made possible by the leftist MSM which goes along with it all.

11 posted on 07/24/2007 2:15:06 PM PDT by Reeses
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To: DCJeanGrey

What she meant was that she progressively works her way up from throwing ashtrays to lamps..


12 posted on 07/24/2007 2:15:49 PM PDT by vietvet67
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To: DCJeanGrey

I always considered a progressive to an ultra liberal. In other words progressive is further to the left than liberal. No matter what words you use they are all the same and not good for America.


13 posted on 07/24/2007 2:16:38 PM PDT by Uncle Hal
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To: DCJeanGrey
...liberalism is like a bag of sh**, sooner or later ,it gets messy

..(my newest tag line for sale..inquire within)..

.....

..hmmm...a letter bomb already

14 posted on 07/24/2007 2:17:02 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)
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To: DCJeanGrey

It’s not fair to describe Hitlery as a liberal.

She’s a totalitarian.


15 posted on 07/24/2007 2:19:09 PM PDT by TBP
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To: DCJeanGrey

Hillary is a fool, plain and simple.


16 posted on 07/24/2007 2:19:46 PM PDT by SConservative
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To: DCJeanGrey
Progressive? Hell no.

Hillary and her goons are straight up Stalinists.

Obama and Edwards are useful idiots: stupid but dangerous.

17 posted on 07/24/2007 2:20:51 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Sic Semper Tyrannis * U.Va. Engineering '09 * Friends Don't Let Friends Vote Democrat * Fred in 2008)
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To: DCJeanGrey

I don’t care what you call it. Socialism is still Socialism,


18 posted on 07/24/2007 2:20:52 PM PDT by Old Seadog (Inside every old person is a young person saying "WTF happened?".)
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To: Restore

“That’s because Progressive IS TO THE LEFT of LIBERAL!”

Yes... Liberal is rooted in liberty and the Marxist theory of Progress is about undermining that old-fashioned concept.

So, yes, progressive is much more suited to a New left trend follower.


19 posted on 07/24/2007 2:24:40 PM PDT by WOSG ( Don't tell me what you are against, tell me what you are FOR.)
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To: TBP
a totalitarian

If that means she is mired half a century in the past it is not correct. She is mired a century and a half in the past. At least she doesn't talk about enhancing the pace of societal evolution as her husband did or does.

20 posted on 07/24/2007 2:26:40 PM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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