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This day in History 1945: Atomic bomb dropped on Nagasaki
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Posted on 08/09/2007 3:18:57 AM PDT by abb
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To: LibLieSlayer
and ALL of their AMERICAN offspring that were born because their fathers did not die invading the Japanese homeland!Thank you. I sometimes feel forgotten in these discussions.
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posted on
08/09/2007 5:28:24 AM PDT
by
magslinger
(Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors. And miss. R.A.Heinlein)
To: abb
Looks like Nagasaki proves this grandmother's statement wrong,
but imagine the condemnation if Truman had been a Republican.
Media elites would not be so eager to resuscitate his reputation..
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posted on
08/09/2007 5:29:02 AM PDT
by
OESY
To: abb
My wife’s aunt was General Groves’ secretary. She took her oath to secrecy so seriously that we only discovered her Manhattan Project job after her death, some 40 years later.
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posted on
08/09/2007 5:35:29 AM PDT
by
TonyInOhio
("Has anyone seen my cat?" Schrödinger)
To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten; 6323cd; 75thOVI; Adrastus; A message; AnAmericanMother; abb; ACelt; ...
Thanks, abb, for this ping.
To all: please ping me to threads that are relevant to the MilHist list (and/or) please add the keyword "MilHist" to the appropriate thread. Thanks in advance.
Please FREEPMAIL indcons if you want on or off the "Military History (MilHist)" ping list.
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posted on
08/09/2007 5:50:40 AM PDT
by
indcons
To: abb
Actually, there was just enough materials left for another smaller bomb. The Oak Ridge processing had not caught up with requested materials, and some of the explosives had not been finished. It would have been smaller than 'Fat Man'.
The third bomb would have possibly 'fizzled'.
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posted on
08/09/2007 5:54:59 AM PDT
by
Pistolshot
(Every woman, who can, should learn to shoot, and carry a gun.)
To: indcons
Thanks indcons. If we’d have had 50 more, and Japan had continued to refuse surrender, and we’d used the bombs to wipe Japan off the face of the Earth, the rest of the world, particularly the victims of Japan in the Far East, would have cheered so loud we’d have heard them over here.
BTW, I just mentioned your list on my profile page. :’)
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posted on
08/09/2007 5:56:55 AM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
(Profile updated Thursday, August 9, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
To: abb
Time to sit back and reflect on a very good bombing day long long ago.....
47
posted on
08/09/2007 5:57:47 AM PDT
by
Badeye
(You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
To: Dixie Yooper; LibLieSlayer; pikachu
My husband and I too!
My dad was in the European Theater, but they had already told him his unit was going to the Far East when Truman dropped the bomb.
On the other hand, my father in law was on Iwo and his orders had been cut for the invasion of the mainland. He was Signal Corps, and he'd already had his jeep blown up on Iwo (wasn't even scratched though).
So neither of us or our siblings would be here at all, but for Truman!
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posted on
08/09/2007 5:58:13 AM PDT
by
AnAmericanMother
((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
To: abb
Remember, Klintoon apologized to Japan for the US’s dropping the BIG-ONE on them. If we had dropped more NUK’s he would have been so busy apologizing that he would have had no time for Monica!
49
posted on
08/09/2007 6:03:31 AM PDT
by
TRY ONE
(NUKE the unborn gay whales!)
To: abb
I just visited the Air Force Museum at Wright-Patterson last weekend. Bock's Car, along with demilitarized versions of "Fat Man" and "Little Boy" are all on display, along with more modern nukes.
It's an amazing museum. I highly recommend it if you are ever in the area, but plan to spend at least a whole day, maybe two.
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posted on
08/09/2007 6:04:16 AM PDT
by
Thermalseeker
(Made in China: Treat those three words like a warning label)
To: SunkenCiv
Good morning, SunkenCiv.
I understand what you are saying. My grand-uncle, a planter in Burma, had his land confiscated and his labor force killed during the attempted Japanese invasion of Burma and NE India. After he lost everything to the Japanese, the man moved to Singapore after that city-state was liberated and made his second million.
Thanks for adding the list to your profile page; gives it a lot of visibility. As “undocumented Americans” (/sarc) say, Muchas Gracias.
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posted on
08/09/2007 6:08:53 AM PDT
by
indcons
To: abb
The first massive invasion occurring in the Southern islands after 1 Nov 1945 (Olympic - 4 Corps) we would have been preceded by nukes at approximately a two week interval (The speed at which we could produce them). Sometime after 1 April 1946 (Cornet - 5 Corps) the second massive invasion would have occurred a little south of Tokyo. In all it was planned to nuke Japan between 7 and 9 times and come in with a force of more than 9 Corps. They quit after the second.
52
posted on
08/09/2007 6:10:34 AM PDT
by
Red6
(Come and take it.)
To: magslinger
53
posted on
08/09/2007 6:14:10 AM PDT
by
LibLieSlayer
(Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
To: indcons
As has been recounted before on FR and elsewhere, the US firebombed over 45 cities (I think it was 48), including Tokyo, before dropping the first Bomb. And Japan wouldn't surrender. And the first Bomb didn't convince 'em to surrender. It took a second Bomb, and even with that, a group of Japanese officers tried to kidnap the Emperor, stop the surrender broadcast from going out, and force Japan to fight on. When a group of US bombers was spotted in the night skies, as a precaution the power was shut down, the would-be kidnappers got lost in the darkened palace, and the broadcast went out on schedule. :')
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posted on
08/09/2007 6:19:27 AM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
(Profile updated Thursday, August 9, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
To: AnAmericanMother
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posted on
08/09/2007 6:21:01 AM PDT
by
LibLieSlayer
(Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
To: SunkenCiv
My F-I-L had that book.
He knew a lot of folks at the Pentagon (he continued in the Reserves after the war and retired as a bird colonel) and he said so far as he could determine that story was accurate.
Didn't surprise him one bit. He said the Japs were fanatics to a degree we couldn't even imagine.
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posted on
08/09/2007 6:24:44 AM PDT
by
AnAmericanMother
((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
To: weegee
Yes, I believe so. There was a test in the desert that I’m sure we’ve all seen pictures.
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posted on
08/09/2007 6:56:12 AM PDT
by
caver
(Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
To: AnAmericanMother; Dixie Yooper; LibLieSlayer; pikachu
Similar here. My grandfather was a Marine trained as a forward artillery spotter. He would have been in on of the first waves ashore and my mother probably would not have been born.
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posted on
08/09/2007 6:57:37 AM PDT
by
TalonDJ
To: AnAmericanMother; SunkenCiv
Towards the end of the war, Japanese Army factions led by Col. Tsuji tried to kidnap the Emperor so that he wouldn’t accede to demands of surrender. This was supposed to have been foiled at the last minute on the initiative of the palace.
Some historians claim that Emp. Hirohito tried his level best to prevent war with the Allies but was overruled by the Army. I don’t know what to make of this claim for various reasons.
On a related note: the world seems to be ignoring China’s militaristic behavior at the current time as it ignored Japan’s in the early part of the last century (even after Japan completed a comprehensive victory over Tsarist Russia in the Russo-Japanese War of 1905).
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posted on
08/09/2007 6:59:40 AM PDT
by
indcons
To: LibLieSlayer
and ALL of their AMERICAN offspring that were born because their fathers did not die invading the Japanese homeland!
I believe I'm one of them. My Father would have went into Japan had a ground invasion been ordered.
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