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Congressman Fired Up by Prospect of Draft
ABC News ^ | Aug. 12, 2007

Posted on 08/12/2007 5:46:07 PM PDT by ConservativeofColor

Aug. 12, 2007 The so-called war czar who oversees the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan has once again raised the issue of whether or not America might consider reinstituting a military draft.

"I think it certainly makes sense to consider it," Lt. Gen. Douglas Luke told NPR. "And I can tell you this has always been an option on the table. But, ultimately this is a policy matter between meeting the demands for the nation's security one means or another."

Rep. Charles Rangel, D-N.Y., is a long-time champion of the idea. The chair of the House Ways and Means Committee said he believes a draft would spur a change in the war.

"They'll get out of Iraq so fast if they thought that Middle America had to make any sacrifices," Rangel said today on "Good Morning America Weekend Edition." "But I do believe that any time our great country is at war, it shouldn't be sacrifices just by the low or middle-income people. Everyone should share the sacrifice."

He said it's more difficult to justify a war when the children fighting are your own.

"It's easy to talk about supporting a war if someone else is fighting that war," he said.

Rangel suggested the draft include no deferments for men or women, and include people from ages 18 to 26.

"You serve. You have to do something for your country," he said. "And believe me, when a Congress knows you're talking about their community and their families, you're reluctant to go to war in Iraq as speedily as we have."

According to Rangel, an involuntary draft exists already.

"We have an economic draft," he said. "We're holding hostage reservists, National Guard. We're enticing kids that come from the highest unemployment areas, with $15,000, $20,000, $30,000. But for the middle class and the kids of the Congress and the Pentagon and the White House, they're not involved so you find a situation where people support the war, but not my kids."

Rangel, who served during the Korean War, contrasted service in Iraq and Vietnam.

"Vietnam had a political draft," he said. "All you had to do is what Cheney did, what Bush did. All you had to do was know a politician and get deferments."


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1 posted on 08/12/2007 5:46:08 PM PDT by ConservativeofColor
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To: ConservativeofColor

Draft! Yippy! It’s gotten a tad dull having the most professional and motivated military in history.


2 posted on 08/12/2007 5:49:58 PM PDT by Natchez Hawk (What's so funny about the first, second, and fourth Amendments?)
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To: ConservativeofColor

Rangel should try some Bean-O.


3 posted on 08/12/2007 5:51:07 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: Natchez Hawk

Look at the bright side; we’ll get to dump more of our spineless liberals on our socialist neighbors to the north.


4 posted on 08/12/2007 5:51:11 PM PDT by ConservativeofColor
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To: ConservativeofColor
“Rep. Charles Rangel, D-N.Y., is a long-time champion of the idea.”

Is this the “champion” that didn’t even vote for his own bill to reinstate the draft?

5 posted on 08/12/2007 5:51:30 PM PDT by DB
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To: ConservativeofColor
"They'll get out of Iraq so fast if they thought that Middle America had to make any sacrifices," Rangel said

Rangel's playing of both the class and race cards is despicable. And he's playing to a constituency that actually believes that poor minorities are the only enlisted folks in the armed forces.

6 posted on 08/12/2007 5:51:38 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo (There are four types of homicide: felonious, accidental, justifiable, and praiseworthy)
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To: Natchez Hawk

Just as long as the illegals get a draft card along with their illegal alien ID.


7 posted on 08/12/2007 5:52:45 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Tracking The "Flyin' Imams" since 11/20/06)
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To: Mr. Mojo
And he's playing to a constituency that actually believes that poor minorities are the only enlisted folks in the armed forces.

Yes, the uninformed. People like Rangel rely on the uninformed.

8 posted on 08/12/2007 5:54:17 PM PDT by ConservativeofColor
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To: ConservativeofColor
The only reason Rangel wants to reinstate the draft is because he knows that it will do a lot of damage to the military and the country.

I'm a military history buff so please save your breath about draftees fighting in World War II, Korea and Vietnam. I know all that. This has nothing to do with draftees. It's about the destruction of our military and the United States.

9 posted on 08/12/2007 5:55:02 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (You know you are a great American when a Kennedy calls you a traitor.)
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To: ConservativeofColor
"They'll get out of Iraq so fast if they thought that Middle America had to make any sacrifices"

Wrongo.

He has NO idea of what is facing the nation and the World.

Its about 1937 all over again, and things will start heating up very quickly over the next few months, in Iran.

Should there be a draft? Yes, if its needed to beat these Fascist Islamics back into the 12th Imam's well hole . where they all belong, for eternity.

According to Iran's rhetoric, that Iran will wipe Israel of the map, then lets try on the reciprocal statement:

Iran needs to be wiped off the map!

Hard words for hard times.

10 posted on 08/12/2007 5:55:56 PM PDT by Candor7 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Baghdad_(1258))
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To: ConservativeofColor

If it came to a vote Rangel would vote against a draft so fast and so hard it would make your head spin. Its just political grandstanding. There are good reasons not to have a draft but Rangel uses none of them.


11 posted on 08/12/2007 5:56:34 PM PDT by Delacon
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To: ConservativeofColor

#//////// PPPPP

DTG: 130300Z AUG 07

FM: OLD SARGE
TO: C. RANGEL
SU: YOUR DRAFT PROPOSAL

1. SCREW YOU.
2. NOTHING FOLLOWS.

EOM EOM EOM


12 posted on 08/12/2007 5:57:08 PM PDT by Old Sarge (This tagline in memory of FReeper 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
It's about the destruction of our military and the United States.

Of course. A weak military is what anti-war surrrender monkey's like Rangel long for. The weaker we are the less ability we have to fight.

13 posted on 08/12/2007 5:57:19 PM PDT by ConservativeofColor
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To: Old Sarge

lol!


14 posted on 08/12/2007 5:58:22 PM PDT by ConservativeofColor
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To: Natchez Hawk
"Vietnam had a political draft," he said. "All you had to do is what Cheney did, what Bush did. All you had to do was know a politician and get deferments."

Let's see. Kerry had 4 deferments. Clinton just openly dodged the draft. Edwards somehow was never called. Chris Dodd served 6 years in the Reserves during Viet Nam. Hillary tried to enlist in the Marines, but those meanie Marines laughed at her because she wore glasses.

Incidentally, I don't believe Bush ever received a deferment, although I could be mistaken on that. Still, flight training in a fighter jet, even in the Air National Guard, doesn't quite seem like a deferement to me.

15 posted on 08/12/2007 5:59:01 PM PDT by DakotaRed (Liberals don't rattle sabers, they wave white flags)
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To: ConservativeofColor
Het Rangel!

I’m Trying to see Your point of View!


16 posted on 08/12/2007 6:04:25 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: ConservativeofColor
Was the draft suggested or is this some rumor mongering the Dims are doing to stir the honey pot.
17 posted on 08/12/2007 6:07:18 PM PDT by Global2010
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To: ConservativeofColor

All you had to do was know a politician and get deferments.”
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Bull$hit.

All you had to do was enlist before being drafted. Anyone could do it. No political connections required.


18 posted on 08/12/2007 6:08:56 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Charlie Rant-all is a fat lying Castro-loving unpatriotic bastard.

And if he waves his Korean War medals in my face, may The Force be with me such as I shall make him eat each medal, one by one, handstuffed down his vast prodigious gullet, fabric and metal together.


19 posted on 08/12/2007 6:11:44 PM PDT by elcid1970
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To: Mr. Mojo

I don’t believe Mr. Rangel has been to many bases in the last 150 years. “Middle America” or “Fly Over Country” makes up a HUGE portion of the services.


20 posted on 08/12/2007 6:14:46 PM PDT by eyedigress
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