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[South Carolina] Republican race narrows
Public Policy Polling ^ | August 15, 2007 | PPP

Posted on 08/15/2007 6:24:50 PM PDT by Plutarch

On the Republican side Fred Thompson is leading the race with 22%, followed by Rudy Giuliani (18%), Mitt Romney (17%), John McCain (11%) and Mike Huckabee (7%). Thompson’s lead has shrunk in the last two months. In June he led the next closest candidate by eleven percent, and overall his percentage has fallen five percent. In those two months Giuliani has seen his support increase by four percent, McCain’s has dropped four percent, and Huckabee’s rose four percent...

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: South Carolina; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: electionpresident; elections; fredthompson; gop; mittromney; republicans; romney; southcarolina; thompson
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To: WFTR
This poll is interesting. Thanks for posting it.

Your analysis is interesting, thanks for posting it.

I don't see where McCain's diminishing band of supporters goes to any candidate in particular. These are likely oblivious legacy supporters, who Press 5 for McCain only because they are proud to recognize one of the names. When McCain departs, they will, like thistles, drift wherever the wind blows.

21 posted on 08/15/2007 8:47:22 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: Plutarch

Rich Lowry has a stiffy for Romney, and for the life of me, I can’t understand why. I can understand Kathryn Jean-Lopez’s girl-crush on Marvelous Mitt, but Lowry?

An undeclared candidate leads all others by at least 5 points, and Rich made it out to be a huge surge for Romney. Go figure.


22 posted on 08/15/2007 8:52:29 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: Plutarch

Romney is a machine. He just showed up in South Carolina recently and already his support is ratcheting upwards, and closing in on the lead.

One of Romney’s campaign people had a point that seems to be true on a video a month or more back. He said whenver they get Romney in front of people, in person or even on tv, people like him. People just like the guy, and see that he is smart as a whip and has lots of leadership success.


23 posted on 08/15/2007 8:52:46 PM PDT by ran20
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To: Plutarch

By the way...what do the Paulistinians have to say about the 2% the good doctor pulled down? So much for the netroots thing.


24 posted on 08/15/2007 8:53:29 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: Plutarch

I am hoping McCain stays in the race, so he and Guiliani split the name recognition vote. The rubes who go ‘OHH I know that guy, checkmark beside his name.”


25 posted on 08/15/2007 8:54:56 PM PDT by ran20
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To: Plutarch


Excellent!

26 posted on 08/15/2007 8:56:14 PM PDT by Reaganesque (Romney for President 2008)
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To: Nonstatist

“He said July and now he says September and people are losing interest in him, even in his native South. He’s as phony as a two dollar bill, open your eyes.”

He hasn’t even officially declared and he’s beating the other candidates. He’s had a great plan thus far, and unless we find out he’s gay or something, he’ll have the nomination locked up in 8 months.


27 posted on 08/15/2007 8:57:31 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: Plutarch

“Do you think that America is seeking a President in 2008, who in August 2007, is getting his act together?”

American never wanted the campaigns to begin this early in the first place. The current crop on both sides all reek more of ambition than competence. Thompson has been smart by being the “un-candidate” in the meantime, and the polls show it. I suspect you’re more pissed about your chosen candidate losing than Thompson waiting to declare.


28 posted on 08/15/2007 9:00:04 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: Plutarch
I don't see where McCain's diminishing band of supporters goes to any candidate in particular. These are likely oblivious legacy supporters, who Press 5 for McCain only because they are proud to recognize one of the names. When McCain departs, they will, like thistles, drift wherever the wind blows.

I hope that you are right. I based my prediction on the fact that Fred Thompson and John McCain were close when they were in the senate together. Fred Thompson was a supporter of campaign finance reform and often voted with John McCain. I don't doubt that some of Mr. McCain's voters in this poll are people just glad to recognize a name, but some are leftovers from his past runs. Many of these leftovers would gravitate towards someone who had been a friend of Mr. McCain in the past. Another possibility is that Mr. McCain may endorse Fred Thompson if he quits before the South Carolina primary.

Some of the McCain supporters may be just party loyalists who support whichever candidate has the best claim to it being "his turn" to run. No one had any enthusiasm for Bob Dole in 1996, but he did well in South Carolina because many of the stalwarts felt that it was "his turn" to have the nomination. If John McCain is effectively out of the race by December, I don't know where these people will turn. John McCain is the only candidate who can make a strong "it's my turn" argument this time.

Bill

29 posted on 08/15/2007 9:07:25 PM PDT by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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To: Plutarch

If Fred doesn’t hurry up and get in the race..........AAAHHHHHHGGGGGG!!!! He’s causing me as much stress as the 2000 vote recount in Florida.


30 posted on 08/15/2007 9:08:56 PM PDT by no dems (Dear God, how long are you going to let Ted Kennedy, Robert Byrd and John Conyers live?)
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To: DesScorp
He hasn’t even officially declared and he’s beating the other candidates.

No he's not. FDT is now third, behind Romney, at Intrade.

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He’s had a great plan thus far...

The plan is so great, that FDT has dropped nine points at Intrade in the last nine days.


31 posted on 08/15/2007 9:11:43 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: DesScorp

The pulse of things in my part of the country is this: The longer Fred delays getting into the race the more folks there are that are drifting over to Romney.

I’m going to give Fred until Labor Day weekend and then I’m moving on. Some of us have a life.


32 posted on 08/15/2007 9:14:07 PM PDT by no dems (Dear God, how long are you going to let Ted Kennedy, Robert Byrd and John Conyers live?)
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To: Plutarch

“No he’s not. FDT is now third, behind Romney, at Intrade.”

Ooooo K. You go ahead and rely on a glorified gambling website. I’ll stick to polls that ask actual voters what they think.


33 posted on 08/15/2007 9:23:39 PM PDT by DesScorp
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Any day now Fred is going to enter the race. Yessir, Fred is coming in soon. You’ll see. His opening campaign speech is just around the corner. *twitches and sweats nervously and wipes brow*


34 posted on 08/15/2007 9:43:20 PM PDT by ClarenceThomasfan (I want President Bush to run for a third term!)
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To: Plutarch; 2A Patriot; 2nd amendment mama; 4everontheRight; 77Jimmy; A Strict Constructionist; ...
South Carolina Ping

Add me to the list. / Remove me from the list.
35 posted on 08/15/2007 9:44:06 PM PDT by upchuck (Today there are 10,000 more illegal aliens in yer country than there were yesterday. 10,000! THINK!)
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To: DesScorp
Ooooo K. You go ahead and rely on a glorified gambling website. I’ll stick to polls that ask actual voters what they think.

When FDT was in the lead at Intrade ( Fred Takes Lead on InTrade! ), that site was an Oracle of Truth. Now that Fred's lassitude and procrastination has him down in third place, Intrade is a glorified gambling website.

The lastest National ARG Poll has Romney tied with Thompson at 16%. Before the cock crows, you'll probably be dismissing polls as well.

36 posted on 08/15/2007 9:47:23 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: WFTR
I based my prediction on the fact that Fred Thompson and John McCain were close when they were in the senate together. Fred Thompson was a supporter of campaign finance reform and often voted with John McCain...Mr. McCain may endorse Fred Thompson if he quits before the South Carolina primary.

Really. I didn't know that. In that case, McCain's endorsement may hurt Fred, not help him. Puts him two degrees from Ted Kennedy. McCain stands for everything I hate about Republicans right now: spending, shamnesty, the gang of 14, appeasing the Dims, etc.
37 posted on 08/15/2007 10:50:16 PM PDT by athelass (Proud Mom of a Sailor and two Marines! Weasley is Our King!)
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To: athelass
I think the endorsement will help Mr. Thompson in South Carolina. Maybe a McCain endorsement will hurt him elsewhere. I’m sure that Fred Thompson wouldn’t be considering a run if John McCain were still a strong candidate.
38 posted on 08/15/2007 10:56:57 PM PDT by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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To: Plutarch
So, of the candidates who are actually running, Romney is basically tied with Giuliani in SC.

Also, as for Thompson, I think that as people see more of him, his numbers will drop. I know that's what happened to me. I was initially very enthusiastic about a Thompson run and supported it. But, the more I saw and heard him, the less I liked him. And I can't put my finger on what it was that turned me off.

39 posted on 08/16/2007 3:16:01 AM PDT by Spiff
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To: Neu Pragmatist

Half of me is saying enough already and declare your candidacy. The other half reminds me it is still very early.

Time will tell whether or not he played this right. Romney is building a pretty strong base here so he better not wait too much longer.


40 posted on 08/16/2007 4:09:09 AM PDT by Lovebloggers
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