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Third Party Myths; or, Why You'd Be Nuts to Leave the GOP
TheVanguard.org ^ | April 16, 2002 | Rod D. Martin

Posted on 08/25/2007 5:45:03 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance

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21 posted on 08/25/2007 6:05:45 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Communist China: Walmart's answer to that pesky 13th Amendment.)
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To: rickdylan

The GOP keeps tempting fate by jerking the base around and expecting us to come crawling back every time they threaten us with Hillary. They took a beating in the last election and apparently haven’t learned a thing.


22 posted on 08/25/2007 6:06:41 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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To: RJL

Christians are to the Republican party as:
E) Bush is to the illegals

So you’re saying Christians, by enabling the Republican party, are destroying the culture/country?


23 posted on 08/25/2007 6:07:27 PM PDT by gcruse (Let's strike Iran while it's hot.)
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To: Sybeck1
Sadly a third party won’t be a viable option until the Dems completely go left and leave the few conservative Dems in the party no stomach to be associated with them any longer. When that happens the conservatives having to hold their noses to vote for the Rockefeller/Ford/Bush GOP can band with them to form a party more in the Reagan mold.
24 posted on 08/25/2007 6:10:15 PM PDT by SCHROLL
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance; Lionface; Mr.B.goes.to.Washington; RonDog; gc4nra; Anti-Bubba182; ...
Yes, the Republican Party is the some of thousands of independent parts. It is also fairly easy to become a Party official (I did). You just have to run for central committee in your district or volunteer a few hours at your local Republican Party HQ.

Of course you could do nothing but sit at your computer and bitch about the Party. Just remember that splitting the Conservative vote will assure Hillary a win.

25 posted on 08/25/2007 6:13:23 PM PDT by Blue Collar Republican (Send troupes to the southern border, just like Mexico.)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

This may be very interesting for those who think that political action is the most effective way to invest their time and energies into community improvement. For those who find other activities more fruitful, it is a mere distraction.

As an ex-Democrat who has never been a Republican, I have no need to “leave the Republican party”. I tend to agree with the author on the futility of third party efforts, but mainly because I find most electoral enterprises low yield activities at best. Keeping voter registration current, voting in the primaries (where non-partisan registrants are permitted to do so), and voting in general elections is a sufficient level of involvement in electoral politics, provided one does not cast ballots for unknowns or “the least evil candidate”. Leaving some positions blank on the ballot is appropriate, especially for offices that would best be kept vacant (or abolished) in any case.


26 posted on 08/25/2007 6:13:33 PM PDT by Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek
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To: SCHROLL

If Republicans can somehow, some way nab Senator Lieberman and convince him to formally switch parties, it would set the stage for a future Reaganesque party.

It would be distasteful to some, who do not agree with Senator Lieberman’s many liberal positions, but as a party-forming move it would rock the foundations of both parties.

I think we should make a serious, real effort to entice Senator Lieberman. Perhaps even offer him some senior position with the Bush administration to get the ball rolling...


27 posted on 08/25/2007 6:14:29 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Communist China: Walmart's answer to that pesky 13th Amendment.)
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To: stylin19a

Eric Sevareid said something interesting a long time ago: 3rd parties never make it to major parties — either they become major parties quickly or they remain 3rd parties for life. Similarly, major parties do not degenerate into 3rd parties....they die off quickly.

Obviously there is low sample size, along with ill-defined terms such as “quick.”


28 posted on 08/25/2007 6:14:46 PM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance
AMEM!!!!

Besides, it's virtually impossible to create a new party because you have to have sufficient numbers to win an election. The only place the third-party believers have to go to get those potential voters is from the Republican party. The truth is, we need every R we can get to win an election.

Fight it out in the primaries but then we're united in our desire to keep RATS from ruining our lives.

29 posted on 08/25/2007 6:15:53 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Clintonfatigued
We should nominate the most conservative candidate who can possibly win the general election.

It was John Kenneth Galbraith. He advocated nominating the "leftmost viable candidate."

30 posted on 08/25/2007 6:16:25 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: Clintonfatigued

YUP!!


31 posted on 08/25/2007 6:16:55 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

I will be voting for a candidate who supports smaller, less intrusive government. If the Republicans do not run that candidate, they will not get my vote.


32 posted on 08/25/2007 6:17:31 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: AD from SpringBay

I hope, B).

I fear, D).


33 posted on 08/25/2007 6:17:47 PM PDT by Nervous Tick
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance
Could be nuts to keep doing what we've been doing for 44 years and getting what we got, with an 8 year detour.

I'm ready to throw out the baby AND the bathwater and bring some new water in from the well.

34 posted on 08/25/2007 6:18:44 PM PDT by pierstroll
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Amnesty wouldn’t have been defeated if it weren’t for Repulblicans.


35 posted on 08/25/2007 6:19:02 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma; All

A winning conservative platform for 2008?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1787224/posts
Posted on 02/19/2007 1:14:04 AM PST by Jim Robinson

Here’s a starter list and it’s open for discussion, cutting, consolidation, expansion and detailing:

1. Win the war!
2. Secure the nation!
3. Secure the borders!
4. Stop the illegal aliens!
5. Rebuild the military!
6. Deal with growing threats! Iran, Syria, North Korea, China, (and an increasingly Muslim Russia and Europe?)!
7. Cut government!
8. Cut spending!
9. Cut taxes!
10. Allow the free economy to expand!
11. Return control of states issues to the states!
12. Defend life, liberty, property and individual rights!


36 posted on 08/25/2007 6:21:23 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

Rather than re-hash that debate, my point is we did it.

Time now to start marshaling the electoral organizations, forces, money and focus to elect our next President.


37 posted on 08/25/2007 6:22:21 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Communist China: Walmart's answer to that pesky 13th Amendment.)
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To: gcruse
Christians are to the Republican party as:
E) Bush is to the illegals

So you’re saying Christians, by enabling the Republican party, are destroying the culture/country?

LOL... I wasn't taking it that far, but sadly, the shoe does seem to fit.

Having said that, Christians should vote Republican, Bush is done, we're just anxiously waiting for him to leave.

38 posted on 08/25/2007 6:22:39 PM PDT by RJL
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To: rickdylan
What we really need is runoff elections and at least the legal possibility of some third party rising up to replace the dems.

Until we get a system for runoff elections, unless we want to keep surrendering to RATS, we must hang together. I despise RATS more than I despise any Republican.

39 posted on 08/25/2007 6:25:01 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Senator Lieberman champions partial birth abortion.


40 posted on 08/25/2007 6:25:45 PM PDT by donna (If America is not a Christian nation, it will be part of the Islamic nation. Take your pick.)
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