Posted on 08/25/2007 5:45:03 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance
Every so often, someone decides that the world is too corrupt to reform. And they start a political party.
Sometimes this makes sense. More often, though, it's just foolishness, and bad stewardship to boot. And for Christians today, that's exactly where things stand.
Third party advocates will sputter and fume at this. They'll talk about conscience, as though there are no issues of conscience concerning the second-order consequences of their actions when they help a leftist win. They'll pontificate about how God could sovereignly raise up an army of believers for their new party, as if He cannot do the same thing in the Republican Party, or even the Democrat Party. They'll claim we are advocating power politics, while they advocate electing a President (just a President) and using his veto pen and executive orders to thwart all other freely elected branches of the American government.
The particular third party which advocates that last bit, by the way, only passed the resolution declaring itself officially "Christian" by one vote. But no one ever mentions that, of course, any more than they notice that their preferred method of "reform" would involve making their standard bearer a dictator.
Like most things which ought not be done, this is all very well-intentioned. The advocates of this are fed up with the compromises of many leaders in the Republican Party, can't stand the outright wickedness they see in their government, and want to do something now. This is all admirable, and correct.
What is not correct is the set of myths which swirl about third parties, myths without which those parties could not attract even the handful of followers they have. Here are a few of them.
1. The Republican Party is a monolithic entity, controlled by Washington "insiders".
The exact opposite is true. In fact, the Republican Party (like the Democrat Party), is made up of literally thousands of legally independent entities, none of which have any power to tell each other what to do, expel each other from the party, or meddle (much) in each other's affairs. That's all the county parties, all the state parties, all the regional groupings, even the various national entities (yes, the National Republican Congressional Committee is completely separate from its Senatorial counterpart and even from the Republican National Committee). That's not even counting the support groups, like the Republican Women and the College Republicans; and the support groups are as independent of each other as they are of the party, and the national, state, and local levels of each of these are independent as well.
In fact, there are only two ways in which any of these bodies are joined together: (1) in most (but not all) states, campaign finance laws lump them together for the purpose of limiting total contributions; and (2) in most cases, the lower bodies elect the levels immediately above them. That's it; that's all. And for the most part, this isn't a choice: it's the law. If a third party ever grew large enough to be subject to those laws, it would have to be "organized" the very same way.
2. Okay, but none of that matters, because the "big boys" keep control by disbursing the money.
Pardon me while every activist in America laughs. Each party organ just mentioned has the joy of raising its own money. That's why, once you get on their phone lists, you get constant telemarketing calls from the NRCC and the NRSC and the RNC and your state Republican Party, plus any number of other groups. And since they have to raise their own money, they're loath to share it: they each have their own kingdoms to build. This is why the majority of county Republican parties in America have an annual budget of less than $1,000. That's not being "bought"; it's not even getting taken to dinner.
3. Well maybe, but the party bosses in Washington certainly control the elected officials.
Nope. Once again, follow the money: the candidates have to raise their own too. And whomever this might or might not come from, precious little of it comes from the party. Quite the contrary: the various party organs depend on the officeholders to raise money for them.
It gets worse (or better, depending on your perspective): the parties don't pick the candidates either. They recruit very few of them, they recruit opponents for a lot of the ones they have, and they have no say in who gets nominated. The law, once again, has usurped this traditional party role, once guaranteed by the First Amendment freedom of association: even though a political party is a private organization, its candidates must be chosen (for the most part) by a vote of the people. And in many states, "the people" don't even have to identify with the party in whose primary they vote! In states like Michigan and Arkansas, Democrats frequently flood the Republican primary to elect the "Republican" of their choice. In Louisiana, no party nominee is selected at all: everyone has to run in one big primary together, with the result that the two general election opponents are usually both Democrats.
This means that parties have no say in the most important thing parties do. Likewise, candidates, having been turned into lone wolves, have exactly as much loyalty to their party as happens to suit their own personal agenda. And once again, this is the law: the Constitution and Reform Parties would, if they ever got big enough, have to play by the same rules.
4. Whatever. I'm sticking with my teeny-tiny party because no one could possibly take over that whole, gigantic Republican Party.
Newsflash, friend: if you can't manage to take the Republican Party -- much of which already broadly agrees with you -- how are you ever going to take the whole country?
The fact is, all the things I just described mean that the Republican Party is completely open to any movement which can produce the numbers and organizational skill to get the job done. If you show up with enough people, you win all the offices at the county committee. Win enough county committees, and you have a majority of the state committee. Win enough of those, and you have the whole party.
The party is porous at the bottom: you just have to know what to do, and have the patience to stick with it. Sure, unorganized grassroots will rubberstamp lots of stuff the higher-ups want, but the power is still below; and if a leader or leaders organized them, they could easily and quickly permeate the whole party with their agenda. If.
The problem remains that the party is very big: there are 3066 counties in America, and it would require organizing, taking over, and controlling the Republican committee in a majority of the counties in a majority of the states to be able to elect most of the state committees and the national committee. This, to many third party folk, seems impossible.
It isn't. And if it is, they should abandon their third party as well: building a third party that was vaguely competitive would require organizing even more counties still. And its one thing to get people involved in reforming something they've heard of and (probably) already belong to; it's quite another matter to get them to go off with Don Quixote.
5. Well if it's all so easy, why haven't we already done it, big man?
Hey, lay off my weight! And anyway, the answer's pretty simple, and you'll have to deal with it no matter which party you pick.
Our problem isn't mean old bad Republicans preventing us from holding office. In fact, nearly all the vocal Christian officeholders in America are Republicans, and studies show that the Christian Right has steadily gained power (although not yet control) over the past eight years in all but seven of the nation's state Republican parties, and outright control in seven more. The problem and this is especially true the more particular you get about what you want believed and done is that Christians don't have enough cultural influence to consistently field candidates and win primaries, much less fill party positions. There are huge chunks of the country where we never run anyone at all.
Now whose fault is that? The left's? Billy Graham's? The New World Order's? I don't think so.
If Christians are thin on the ground and if the Christians we have are less sound than some might prefer we have no one to blame but ourselves. It's our job to disciple, our job to preach, our job to fill the Earth with the things we believe. And it seems to me that if we can't even get our own local churches and denominations running decently, we shouldn't expect any better success in an endeavor (politics) where people normally have some idea of what they're doing. Hint: ranting at them won't work any better than it did in the last three Reformed denominations you left.
Winning takes more than ranting. Winning takes a lot of prayer, and a lot of time. It takes preparation (ask Moses). It takes set-backs (ask David). It takes enough postmillennial vision to stick with something which may not be fulfilled in your lifetime (ask Abraham). And it takes a plan; preferably a plan which doesn't require multiple miracles to have any hope of success.
6. Okay, you've convinced me. But after all that stuff about how impotent the party structure is, why would we want it? Why not just run candidates?
Simple: the organization and the brand name.
You can't elect candidates without a tremendous labor pool. The party has it. Likewise, you can't do it without raising money; and people don't like giving money to things they've never heard of, much less things they're convinced can't win.
Why reinvent the wheel? If all you have is enough activists to organize a county anyway, organize yours. Go to your Republican county committee meeting, get involved, and when it comes time for officer elections, elect some good ones. If you don't like what the rest of the party's doing, pass your own platform. Send out press releases. Do whatever you want to do. And like the Apostle Paul, go teach other Christians in other counties to do the same thing.
Somewhere along the way, in your area/state/whatever, the word "Republican" is going to come to mean what you say it means. And at the same time, you're going to have a real say in the real world, from the election commission seats which are legally guaranteed to the Republican Party to the press coverage which comes when a Democrat does something and your local newspaper needs to cover "the other side." Oh, and the donor base: don't forget the donor base. Because lots of people will vote for and give money to Republicans just because they're Republicans, and they couldn't care less what those Republicans believe.
That could mean you, kemo sabe. If you want it bad enough.
I remember a saying regarding primaries and elections, though I forgot who said it. We should nominate the most conservative candidate who can possibly win the general election.
D) Blacks are to the Democrat Party
“Our problem isn’t mean old bad Republicans preventing us from holding office. In fact, nearly all the vocal Christian officeholders in America are Republicans, and studies show that the Christian Right has steadily gained power (although not yet control) over the past eight years in all but seven of the nation’s state Republican parties, and outright control in seven more.
The problem is that there are many other types of Republicans, such as libertarians, constitutionalists, and fiscal/business types, and each group is just as determined to gain power and influence. No one group will ever dominate; any national party is necessarily a coalition of convenience.
I’m not “in the GOP” but I’ll probably vote for a GOP candidate. If it isn’t the GOP candidate who wins the nomination it won’t be my fault.
“We should nominate the most conservative candidate who can possibly win the general election.”
Yes....whether or not he’s a Republican!
Personally, I was planning on writing in “Tony Romo”, but after this first quarter....
Excellent wgflyer - I’ll forward your results to the ACT/GRE boards.
It’s a little late in the game now, to be talking about splitting the GOP.
Amnesty was defeated. Point scored.
Now it’s time to find things to agree about, and elect a President.
I’m a Independent until Mel Martinez is gone.
Thanks! Good quiz. The answer was too easy, though.
What’s obvious....is obvious.
This is a well written and spot on article every jot and tittle of which I agree with whole heartedly! In fact, the author may just be guilty of reading my mail as I have been making this case here for quite some time now.
The republican party cannot count on continued support on the basis of being a “leser evil(TM)”. What we really need is runoff elections and at least the legal possibility of some third party rising up to replace the dems.
A) Milk is to cereal
B) Tonto is to the Lone Ranger
C) Aesop is to the fable
D) Blacks are to the Democrat Party
E) Bush is to the illegals
testing....1,2,3...testing ...is this thing on?
The REPUBLICAN PARTY WAS A 3rd PARTY !.\
Born in 1854..became a national party in 1856.....Lincoln elected 1860, with less than 40% of the vote in a 4 party race.
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The GOP keeps tempting fate by jerking the base around and expecting us to come crawling back every time they threaten us with Hillary. They took a beating in the last election and apparently haven’t learned a thing.
Christians are to the Republican party as:
E) Bush is to the illegals
So you’re saying Christians, by enabling the Republican party, are destroying the culture/country?
Of course you could do nothing but sit at your computer and bitch about the Party. Just remember that splitting the Conservative vote will assure Hillary a win.
This may be very interesting for those who think that political action is the most effective way to invest their time and energies into community improvement. For those who find other activities more fruitful, it is a mere distraction.
As an ex-Democrat who has never been a Republican, I have no need to “leave the Republican party”. I tend to agree with the author on the futility of third party efforts, but mainly because I find most electoral enterprises low yield activities at best. Keeping voter registration current, voting in the primaries (where non-partisan registrants are permitted to do so), and voting in general elections is a sufficient level of involvement in electoral politics, provided one does not cast ballots for unknowns or “the least evil candidate”. Leaving some positions blank on the ballot is appropriate, especially for offices that would best be kept vacant (or abolished) in any case.
If Republicans can somehow, some way nab Senator Lieberman and convince him to formally switch parties, it would set the stage for a future Reaganesque party.
It would be distasteful to some, who do not agree with Senator Lieberman’s many liberal positions, but as a party-forming move it would rock the foundations of both parties.
I think we should make a serious, real effort to entice Senator Lieberman. Perhaps even offer him some senior position with the Bush administration to get the ball rolling...
Eric Sevareid said something interesting a long time ago: 3rd parties never make it to major parties — either they become major parties quickly or they remain 3rd parties for life. Similarly, major parties do not degenerate into 3rd parties....they die off quickly.
Obviously there is low sample size, along with ill-defined terms such as “quick.”
Besides, it's virtually impossible to create a new party because you have to have sufficient numbers to win an election. The only place the third-party believers have to go to get those potential voters is from the Republican party. The truth is, we need every R we can get to win an election.
Fight it out in the primaries but then we're united in our desire to keep RATS from ruining our lives.
It was John Kenneth Galbraith. He advocated nominating the "leftmost viable candidate."
YUP!!
I will be voting for a candidate who supports smaller, less intrusive government. If the Republicans do not run that candidate, they will not get my vote.
I hope, B).
I fear, D).
I'm ready to throw out the baby AND the bathwater and bring some new water in from the well.
Amnesty wouldn’t have been defeated if it weren’t for Repulblicans.
A winning conservative platform for 2008?
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Posted on 02/19/2007 1:14:04 AM PST by Jim Robinson
Here’s a starter list and it’s open for discussion, cutting, consolidation, expansion and detailing:
1. Win the war!
2. Secure the nation!
3. Secure the borders!
4. Stop the illegal aliens!
5. Rebuild the military!
6. Deal with growing threats! Iran, Syria, North Korea, China, (and an increasingly Muslim Russia and Europe?)!
7. Cut government!
8. Cut spending!
9. Cut taxes!
10. Allow the free economy to expand!
11. Return control of states issues to the states!
12. Defend life, liberty, property and individual rights!
Rather than re-hash that debate, my point is we did it.
Time now to start marshaling the electoral organizations, forces, money and focus to elect our next President.
So youre saying Christians, by enabling the Republican party, are destroying the culture/country?
LOL... I wasn't taking it that far, but sadly, the shoe does seem to fit.
Having said that, Christians should vote Republican, Bush is done, we're just anxiously waiting for him to leave.
Until we get a system for runoff elections, unless we want to keep surrendering to RATS, we must hang together. I despise RATS more than I despise any Republican.
Senator Lieberman champions partial birth abortion.
” Having said that, Christians should vote Republican”
That looks like a D. I agree. I pick D and E.
Clinton was also elected due to a third-party candidate. Thanks, Ross and all those who foolishly voted for him.
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I, ________________________________________, upon signing this document, do hereby swear and affirm under penalty of forfeiture of office and wages, that I shall:
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3.) Publicly advance the proposition that the international body known as the United Nations is irredeemably corrupt, increasingly hostile toward the United States and the cause of liberty throughout the world, and, furthermore, call for our government to immediately disassociate itself from that organization.
4.) Publicly challenge conspicuously unConstitutional decisions by any Justice or Justices of the Supreme Court, and, furthermore, call for the immediate removal of same from the federal bench, on grounds of bad behavior 1, whenever their rulings are particularly egregious in nature (e.g. Kelo v. New London 2, Hamdi v. Rumsfeld 3).
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You obviously didn’t read the article.
Why?
Decrease our dependence on foreign oil by producing more of our own and building refineries.
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Applying for membership in the Grand Old Party.
Rule one (must be initialed by applicant): I the undersigned, freely and of my own volition, agree that I must adopt a pro-life position as a condition of my membership.
(initial here) ...........
:)
So he gets accused of flip-flopping.
I can deal with that. We should make the effort.
“Thanks, Ross and all those who foolishly voted for him.’
You’re welcome. GHWB blew it by raising taxes after promising not to, then by taking for granted his huge popularity numbers following Desert Storm when he delegated his re-election campaign to George Schultz, who had little interest in it. A most uninspiring candidate, he did not deserve a second term.
You at least have a chance with Republicans—there is NO chance with Democrats.
You like Clinton better?
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