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Giuliani Worried by Fred Thompson
NewsMax ^ | 9/2/07 | NewsMax

Posted on 09/02/2007 4:18:47 PM PDT by wagglebee

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To: wagglebee

of course he is worried, he should be.


61 posted on 09/02/2007 9:01:46 PM PDT by television is just wrong (deport all illegal aliens NOW. Put all AMERICANS TO WORK FIRST. END WELFARE.)
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To: wagglebee

I wish analysts and journalists would stop pushing this meme that small-government/fiscal conservatism is all about tax cuts. It’s about reducing the size, scope and reach of the federal government — tax cuts are only part of that. Spending cuts are another part — but the overall goal is reduction of government power and intrusion. In that area, Thompson does well and Giuliani fails miserably.


62 posted on 09/02/2007 9:02:53 PM PDT by ellery (I don't remember a constitutional amendment that gives you the right not to be identified-R.Giuliani)
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To: wagglebee

He should be afraid. Thompson’s just entering the campaign and their already neck and neck.

And this is the point when people actually start paying attention, Julie-Annie may have thought that ignoring everyone and walking tall on the rubble of 9/11 would get him to the primaries without much competition, but he is wrong.

Watch Fred’s numbers go up ALOT in most states in the coming months, Rudy’s will go down, and Romney and McCain will stay around the 10% mark nationally.


63 posted on 09/02/2007 9:03:15 PM PDT by Tears of a Clown
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To: SpaceBar
provide a focal point for a much needed conservative shift in the Republican party in my opinion.

But is he truly conservative? I'm not trying to cause a flame war - I really want to know some facts about him. I've seen his voting record and it's a mixed bag. I don't believe anyone's campaign rhetoric. So I don't have a lot to go on with him. Any info anyone has so I can make a decision would be helpful...
64 posted on 09/02/2007 9:06:16 PM PDT by CottonBall
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To: wagglebee
Fred is also a conservative.

What has he said on illegal immigration? His Senate votes haven't been all too conservative. I'd like to hear him explain those.
65 posted on 09/02/2007 9:10:07 PM PDT by CottonBall
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To: CottonBall
Here's a thread with much information about Fred...Where Fred Stands.
66 posted on 09/02/2007 10:18:01 PM PDT by jellybean (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=dailyfread Proud Ann-droid and a Steyn-aholic)
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To: altura

That’s because they have a “super secret” room where they go to bash FR in private.


67 posted on 09/02/2007 10:23:46 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Of the potential GOP front runners, FT has one of the better records on immigration.- NumbersUSA)
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To: CottonBall

Where are you getting your information?

OntheIssues is riddled with falsehoods.

Numbers USA says that Fred has one of the better records on illegal immigration of the GOP front runners.


68 posted on 09/02/2007 10:25:42 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Of the potential GOP front runners, FT has one of the better records on immigration.- NumbersUSA)
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To: Navy Patriot
Mitt's family is more in the mainstream as most Americans, he and his wife are contemporaries, both in status and age. Rudy and Fred's situations IMO seem little stretched to please the public perception.

Gotta hand it to Mitt. He's been successfully steady in his personnel life.

69 posted on 09/02/2007 10:26:50 PM PDT by duckln
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To: Politicalmom

From NumbersUSA. He might be better than Rudy or Mitt - but that’s not saying much. He’s voted for chain migration and for increasing the number of guestworkers and legals allowed here without first addressing all the illegals here. There haven’t been many votes to go on, but they’ve been mixed and doesn’t send a clear signal. Not to me anyway.


70 posted on 09/02/2007 10:48:38 PM PDT by CottonBall
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To: CottonBall

So he voted for LEGAL immigration, and that’s a problem.

Unreal.


71 posted on 09/02/2007 11:56:51 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Of the potential GOP front runners, FT has one of the better records on immigration.- NumbersUSA)
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To: alicewonders
Many of Rudy’s supporters have been very nasty to some of us here at FreeRepublic in the past. I’m honestly not sorry to see them gone. Conservatives don’t vote for liberals.

Exactly!!!

It was absolutely sickening to watch some 'so-called' conservatives so willing to abandon the traditional base--along with the base's conservative values and principle--to support a liberal like JulieAnnie, who is 180 degress out from most of those very long-held, core, bedrock values and principles.

It's also certainly is nice to not have those Rudy-apologists use their skewed form of tortured logic/moral relativism to attack other conservatives (like Reagan) in an attempt to justify their support for a liberal who's personal life is an absolute train wreck.

I, too, am glad to see them gone.

72 posted on 09/03/2007 12:13:25 AM PDT by stockstrader (We need a conservative candidate who will UNITE the Party, not a liberal one who will DIVIDE it!)
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To: Politicalmom
Bump! FEAR IS JUSTIFIED!


PRESIDENTIAL MATERIAL.... for sure!


73 posted on 09/03/2007 2:18:49 AM PDT by W04Man (I'm Now With Fred http://Vets4Fred.net)
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To: Politicalmom
So he voted for LEGAL immigration, and that’s a problem.

The Senators that voted for the amnesty bill voted for LEGAL immigration as well. They voted to make something that is currently illegal legal. The chain migration bill Thompson voted for is exactly the same way.

His votes on immigration shows a propensity to increase the number of people who come here, disregarding the number of illegals already here. To me, that's neither conservative or responsible to the American people.
74 posted on 09/03/2007 8:29:30 AM PDT by CottonBall
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To: altura
What about the WAnker comment?

But I wasn’t just talking about this particular thread. I see this stuff on Free Republic all the time.

As I said, I have NEVER seen FReepers criticize another CONSERVATIVE website.

75 posted on 09/03/2007 8:32:36 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: calcowgirl
But in my book, folks who push liberals like Giuliani and Schwarzenegger, qualify their titles as "practical conservatives," and think the Republican Party needs to abandon much of its platform and move left to win, aren't my cup of tea--nor would I call them conservatives.

Exactly. Before many of them left,,,,the Rudy-apologists came up with some really criginal names to diminish, obfuscate, demean and dilute the meaning of 'conservative'.

Some of their more popular conservative 'qualifiers' were,,,,

'COMMON SENSE' conservative,,,,

'REALISTIC' conservative, and,,,

'PRAGMATIC' conservative.

I wonder how many more creative ways they have come up with over there to blur and insult the meaning of conservative??

76 posted on 09/03/2007 8:33:23 AM PDT by stockstrader (We need a conservative candidate who will UNITE the Party, not a liberal one who will DIVIDE it!)
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To: stockstrader; calcowgirl; EternalVigilance; Howlin
I wonder how many more creative ways they have come up with over there to blur and insult the meaning of conservative??

The FRiberals were trying to diminish conservatism while they were still here.:

Rudy and the Republican Nomination
  Posted by Howlin to EternalVigilance
On Smoky Backroom 02/03/2007 12:48:29 AM EST · 822 of 1,544

The transformation of the GOP into Democrat Party Lite?

It's not going to be DNC Lite; it's going to be a more moderate conservative party though; you all have had your foot on our necks for too long.

This country has to be governed in the middle; the world has moved on from the 50's.

The Contract with America will unite this party again. But we're not going to let you make abortion and guns the big issues this time around.


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77 posted on 09/03/2007 8:53:31 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: duckln
Mitt and Ann Romney are indeed conservative contemporaries and strong by example on family values. Mormonism is all right by me, no worries there. Ann is way good lookin', in the distinguished first lady way.

My real concern for the candidate is I want someone who is prejudice against liberal leftist incrementalist agenda as much as he is prejudice for conservatism.

The executive has huge powers of obstruction, and they can be well used against the previously mentioned leftist agenda. W has not used these methods and the Rats have made gains because of that. Admittedly, W is not a conservative.

I want a conservative that will stick it to the left, and make their fictitious whining complaints a reality. I see this more in Fred than Mitt, God Bless 'em both.

I will send money to Fred and I will vote for Mitt if he gets the nod over Fred.

Rudy is toast, I gotta admit that he's tough on crime and terrorists, but then he considers me a criminal terrorist because I own a gun.

78 posted on 09/03/2007 11:27:12 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Zimbabwe, leftist success story, the envy of Venezuela)
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To: Beagle8U
They got their wish of a all Rooty Toot room but I don’t think they are very happy with it.

I wonder why not -no dissenting newbies to gang-tackle & mau-mau off the board?

79 posted on 09/03/2007 11:27:20 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: wagglebee
"....it's going to be a more moderate conservative party though; you all have had your foot on our necks for too long..."

That's one of the more disgusting comments I've seen from a 'so-called' conservative. No hyperbole there at all!!!..../s Good riddence to anyone that makes a comment like that.

80 posted on 09/03/2007 12:54:40 PM PDT by stockstrader (We need a conservative candidate who will UNITE the Party, not a liberal one who will DIVIDE it!)
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