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Latest Bin Laden Video Is a Forgery: All References to Current Events Are Made During Video Freeze
Booman Tribune ^ | Sep. 9, 2007 | George Maschke

Posted on 09/09/2007 3:57:28 AM PDT by George Maschke

Osama Bin Laden's widely reported video address to the American people has a peculiarity that casts serious doubt on its authenticity: the video freezes at about 1 minute and 36 seconds, and motion only resumes again at 12:30. The video then freezes again at 14:02 remains frozen until the end. All references to current events, such as the 62nd anniversary of the U.S. atomic bombing of Japan, and Sarkozy and Brown being the leaders of France and the UK, respectively, occur when the video is frozen! The words spoken when the video is in motion contain no references to contemporary events and could have been (and likely were) made before the U.S. invasion of Iraq.

The audio track does appear to be in the voice of a single speaker. What I suspect was done is that an older, unreleased video was dubbed over for this release, with the video frozen when the audio track departed from that of the original video.

The video may be downloaded as a 677 mb MPEG file here.


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Google Video of Osama Bin Laden's Latest Purported Video Address to the American People
1 posted on 09/09/2007 3:57:31 AM PDT by George Maschke
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To: George Maschke

He is dead Jim...


2 posted on 09/09/2007 4:00:29 AM PDT by LowOiL (Duncan Hunter .. a man you're not ashamed to support full heartedly..)
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To: All

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1890027/posts?page=697#697


3 posted on 09/09/2007 4:01:12 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: All

http://truthusa.com/a/index.php?PHPSESSID=142a24a09d2a8cfcd2068577c5c8ea07&topic=580.0


4 posted on 09/09/2007 4:02:55 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: George Maschke

works for me - so easy today to fake such things - why do we swallow it as whole cloth?


5 posted on 09/09/2007 4:06:09 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ( "...but you can't fool all of the people all the time." LINCOLN)
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To: George Maschke

He looks dead.


6 posted on 09/09/2007 4:07:24 AM PDT by hershey
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To: maine-iac7

Because the Left want him to be alive. It gives them a political out to be “anti war” while claiming, wrongly, not to be pro terrorists.


7 posted on 09/09/2007 4:09:50 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (http://www.vetsforfreedom.org/)
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To: maine-iac7

The interesting thing about this tape....is that the speech and its contents are like out of a Al Gore/John Kerry speech. This isn’t the normal Osama speech that we are used to. I don’t the guy wrote it, and whoever did write it...had political aspirations in the chatter.

You could actually take three lines of the text...write them out on a screen with someone speaking them...and give a listener to pick who said it....with a picture of Al Gore or Osama....and half the time, they might pick Al.


8 posted on 09/09/2007 4:12:32 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: MNJohnnie

bttt


9 posted on 09/09/2007 4:12:52 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: pepsionice
The Telegraph is suggesting that Adam Gadahn (AKA Azzam al-Amriki) is responsible for the content of this latest "Osama Bin Laden" video.
10 posted on 09/09/2007 4:16:26 AM PDT by George Maschke
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To: George Maschke

I believe that’s true.


11 posted on 09/09/2007 4:20:55 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: M Kehoe

Bin Laden, dead since December 2001.


12 posted on 09/09/2007 4:23:05 AM PDT by b4its2late (FOOTBALL REFEREES: It's tough playing with us, but you can't play the game without us.)
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To: George Maschke

That was my reaction as well.

If this didn’t sound like that little puke from the left coast, I don’t know what would.


13 posted on 09/09/2007 4:23:05 AM PDT by Bahbah
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To: George Maschke
It sounded like that POS could've wrote that incoherent babble.....
14 posted on 09/09/2007 4:24:15 AM PDT by b4its2late (FOOTBALL REFEREES: It's tough playing with us, but you can't play the game without us.)
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To: George Maschke

I love it ... “biggest gas bag in the terrorist world”! Indeed.


15 posted on 09/09/2007 4:24:27 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (Buy a Mac ...)
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To: George Maschke

bookmark


16 posted on 09/09/2007 4:26:21 AM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: Bahbah

lolol


17 posted on 09/09/2007 4:31:04 AM PDT by jedward (I'm not sure you meant, what I understand...or maybe you did.)
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To: Dog

I’m anxious to hear your thoughts on this, Dog


18 posted on 09/09/2007 4:32:58 AM PDT by Iowa Granny
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To: hershey

Yes.


19 posted on 09/09/2007 4:35:20 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Dog

Please check out the link to the story, as well.


20 posted on 09/09/2007 4:36:24 AM PDT by Iowa Granny
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To: George Maschke

bump for bookmark


21 posted on 09/09/2007 4:37:36 AM PDT by davidosborne (http://DuncanHunter.meetup.com/1 - GrassRoots Organization(s-) to elect Duncan Hunter)
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To: George Maschke

I say it again- the POS is dead and has been since Tora Bora. It’s just too bad we couldn’t prove it then and can’t now. This country badly needs a parade...


22 posted on 09/09/2007 4:38:24 AM PDT by 13Sisters76 ("It is amazing how many people mistake a certain hip snideness for sophistication. " Thos. Sowell)
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To: Iowa Granny

The link to the story is the same as what I’ve posted here, except that it also has the Google Video link embedded.


23 posted on 09/09/2007 4:38:33 AM PDT by George Maschke
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To: George Maschke

Binny and Fidel have gone to see Jesus..


24 posted on 09/09/2007 4:40:00 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: George Maschke

The link at the top of the story isn’t working for me.

It says Story Not Found


25 posted on 09/09/2007 4:41:20 AM PDT by Iowa Granny
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To: George Maschke

Wow. And the reason Bin Laden looks healthier and his beard is shorter and darker is because this video was actually done some years ago! Soneone needs to compare his appearance in this video with earlier videos and photos. Also look to see if his clothing in this latest video matches clothing in a video or pictures taken years ago. I assume the CIA and others are trying to discover if that voice is really Bin Laden’s.


26 posted on 09/09/2007 4:42:20 AM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: George Maschke

I think they use voice recognition techniques to determine if this whole video matches voice patterns from the past. Whether the video freezes or not, how could the voice match if it isn’t him speaking?


27 posted on 09/09/2007 4:43:00 AM PDT by nuconvert ("Terrorism is not the enemy. It is a means to the ends of militant Islamism." MZJ)
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To: pepsionice
The interesting thing about this tape....is that the speech and its contents are like out of a Al Gore/John Kerry speech.

Not quite. At least "Osama" called for tax cuts in this speech.

28 posted on 09/09/2007 4:43:31 AM PDT by Maceman ("If your enemy is angry, irritate him." -- Sun Tzu)
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To: Iowa Granny
Not sure why that is. Here is the link again:

http://www.boomantribune.com/?op=displaystory;sid=2007/9/9/61032/95401

29 posted on 09/09/2007 4:44:07 AM PDT by George Maschke
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To: Wilhelm Tell

He doesn’t look better, he looks worse. He’s much thinner and his right eye is drooping.


30 posted on 09/09/2007 4:44:37 AM PDT by nuconvert ("Terrorism is not the enemy. It is a means to the ends of militant Islamism." MZJ)
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To: George Maschke
Can you Photo-shop video to change hair color? I can’t believe Bin Laden would dye his hair. Bin Laden meteralsexual?
31 posted on 09/09/2007 4:45:13 AM PDT by madconserv (Jesus take the wheel- Dream ticket- Thompson\Hunter)
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To: George Maschke

I submit that perhaps it is the American traitor himself, Adam Gadahn, that is wearing the fake beard, since it is already believed that he ‘assisted’ in writing the ‘speech’.

Either way, I hope Osama gets a refund on that ‘Just For Men’ hair color kit, that is the WORST dye job I’ve ever seen!

Osama? “He’s DEAD Jim!”


32 posted on 09/09/2007 4:45:35 AM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: George Maschke

33 posted on 09/09/2007 4:45:50 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch (yahoo picks football --> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1886539/posts)
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To: nuconvert

“Voice recognition” techniques are doubtful at best. I have some fluency in Arabic, and the voice in the video doesn’t sound quite like the earlier Osama Bin Laden videos to me.


34 posted on 09/09/2007 4:46:41 AM PDT by George Maschke
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To: BunnySlippers
AKA Azzam al-Amriki

AKA Ass of America

35 posted on 09/09/2007 4:46:54 AM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear..on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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To: LowOiL

I would like to know that an Arab lip reader has looked at the video and confirmed the audio translation, or at least what is possible, frozen video and all.


36 posted on 09/09/2007 4:48:05 AM PDT by READINABLUESTATE ("life is dangerous")
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To: madconserv

What I’m suggesting is that the video is old, and that a new soundtrack has been imposed on it.


37 posted on 09/09/2007 4:48:39 AM PDT by George Maschke
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To: hosepipe
Binny and Fidel have gone to see Jesus.

I'll tell you this, IF they went to see Jesus, it was only for a moment to hear those words "Depart from Me ye accursed, into the fire prepared for the Devil and his angels"

Which is exactly as it should be.
38 posted on 09/09/2007 4:48:45 AM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: George Maschke

“Voice recognition” techniques are doubtful at best.”

Says who?


39 posted on 09/09/2007 4:50:28 AM PDT by nuconvert ("Terrorism is not the enemy. It is a means to the ends of militant Islamism." MZJ)
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To: George Maschke

Of course it’s a fake. C’mon now, binL, show us you’re still among the living.


40 posted on 09/09/2007 4:50:38 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: READINABLUESTATE

I’m not a lip reader, but I know Arabic, and in the portions of the video where Bin Laden is actually seen moving, the sound and lip movements seem to match up. But again, during most of the video (and during all portions where references to current events are made), the frame is frozen.


41 posted on 09/09/2007 4:50:38 AM PDT by George Maschke
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To: George Maschke
Trimmed Bin Laden in media-savvy war

Unbefreakinglievable, even for the Beeb. Especially the second to the last paragraph.

42 posted on 09/09/2007 4:52:14 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: madconserv; mkjessup

It’s very easy to change anything in a photograph or even in videos - well, not very easy in the case of videos, but it can be done. This is how old movies are “colorized.”

Incidentally, there was some discussion on an earlier thread about the fact that Muslims are not allowed to dye their hair and beard black. They can apparently dye it other colors, but not black. (Talk about a crazy “religion” - Islam takes the cake!) How about Binnie with a Day-Glo pink beard?

In any case, the alleged OBL in the video looks a lot younger overall than he did in earlier videos, so I doubt that the video was actually filmed recently, even if this particular version was assembled and produced recently. Binnie’s become nothing more than a hand-puppet for the fat, pimply gamer, Adam the Fruitcake.


43 posted on 09/09/2007 4:54:47 AM PDT by livius
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To: KylaStarr; Cindy; StillProud2BeFree; nw_arizona_granny; Velveeta; Dolphy; appalachian_dweller; ...

ping


44 posted on 09/09/2007 4:54:51 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Calpernia

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1893413/posts?page=3#3
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1893413/posts?page=4#4


45 posted on 09/09/2007 4:56:13 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Wilhelm Tell

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1893290/posts

see #21 & #24 & #26


46 posted on 09/09/2007 4:57:06 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair dinkum!)
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To: Cindy
Gotta tell you, I have been very suspicious. The image is really not even that close to original ben Laden images.
47 posted on 09/09/2007 4:57:14 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: rodguy911

ok


48 posted on 09/09/2007 4:58:37 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: hosepipe

that would mean they’re Christians; me no think so.

They’ve gone to see someone but it’s hot as hell where they’re at!


49 posted on 09/09/2007 4:59:14 AM PDT by spacejunkie
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To: George Maschke

It has to be real! If not, what else will cable news channels have to ramble on about 24/7?


50 posted on 09/09/2007 4:59:50 AM PDT by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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