Skip to comments."The War" (by Ken Burns) Part 3 of 7; Airing on PBS @ 7PM Central 9-24-07
Posted on 09/25/2007 4:18:57 PM PDT by VOA
This is a "heads-up" for the airing of "The War", the Ken Burns
(Florentine Films) production on PBS.
For discussions on prior parts of “The War”
URL for thread on Part 1
URL for thread on Part 2 (Monday 9-24-07)
and to check for airing times of “The War” on local PBS stations...
URL to check listing for local PBS stations:
DO BE FOREWARNED:
One poster on the West Coast last night said that when they tuned into
their PBS station...SEAN PENN was on the air!
So, maybe put your welder glasses on and turn down the volume in
case your local station is putting somebody like Sean Penn on...”for balance”.
You have been warned!
And how PBS handles it,that sean penn interview prior to, was classic PBS.
On at leasst some PBS stations, each part of “The War” has been rebroadcast,
i.e., here in Mid-Missouri, Part 1 aired at 7PM Central, then was rebroadcast
This might help late-arrivers or folks with VCRs.
I’ve only seen a couple of Ken Burns doc*s but what i did see i liked the Civil War was a good one i thought and i can’t remember the other one i think it was about a great flood here in the U.S. somewhere ...
“i cant remember the other one i think it was about a great flood here
in the U.S. somewhere”
If Burns did a documentary on a large US flood, I’m afraid I missed it.
But...maybe you are thinking about the episode “Fatal Flood” on PBS’s
“American Experience” series.
It was a pretty decent documentary; plenty amazing how widespread it was.
Burns may be a bit PC at times, but imo thusfar the documentary has been both well done and fair. ....and he leaves no doubt whatsoever about who the good guys were. The footage from Guadalcanal was tremendous. Tonight I suspect we'll see some footage of P-51 Mustangs taking on the Luftwaffe while escorting B-17s in their daytime bomb over Germany.
bombing raids, that is.
last heads-up bump before Part 3 airs...
but VOA will be back later!
I give it a 9.
My dad was an Aviation Machinists Mate,never talked about it,found that out in a news clip when my Parents were engaged.
OOPS...let’s do the time-warp again!
Yes, Part 3 is airing tonight, TUESDAY September 25, 2007!!!
What amazes me is anyone who understands what the hell WWII was about should be extra supportive of fighting islamo facism today. Sure the names change, the methods, but it’s the same kind of evil.
Sorry to bother you...IF you can do it AND have time, please correct my
typo on the date of the title for this thread! AS VOA GOOFED and didn’t
put the proper date of 9-25-07 in the title!
If you can fix it without too much bother...
Thanks In Advance!
Thread Title should read:
“The War” (by Ken Burns) Part 3 of 7; Airing on PBS @ 7PM Central 9-25-07
Wasn’t his daddy involved with subversives in the 1940s, and a strong supporter of the murderous Joseph Stalin?
By the way....Eff U Sean Penn!
“My dad was an Aviation Machinists Mate,never talked about it,...”
You do have to pry the past/truth out of some of The Greatest Generation,
that is for sure.
Sometimes, I think it is just innate modesty, not wanting to stand out
too much from “the other guy”.
Sometimes, I think it’s from religional training (and I’m NOT bashing
religional/moral sentiment). You do hear in “The War” and other documentaries
how some recruits had to get over a general church-born ethos about
“Thou Shalt Not Kill” and get their heads wrapped around
“Thou Shalt Not MURDER” as the more accurate bit of theology.
I do really like the old “Sergeant York” for how it dealt with this
dilemma, albeit in WWI.
Also, I suspect some of the returning veterans weren’t ready to tell their
small children and wives what “the real deal” was during their service.
Too bad some President or other moral figure (Billy Graham?) didn’t
tell them: Set a date when you are going to come clean with your loved ones.
(Provided the veteran thought that s/he and the family could handle the
stress of the mental imagery)
Maybe when all your children have been married at least 10 years.
Or when you want to make sure they do their duty...and don’t repeat
some of your “wrong turns”.
The Civil War was without a doubt the best documentary on that war I have ever seen.
I’ll be watching. Dad entered the army in the fall of 1943. Served in New Guinea and Luzon. 760th FA BN - attached to the 191st HQ. He took part in of the occupation of Japan.
Funny, my son is stationed in Japan now.
Bloddy Tarawa first up. God forbid we ever get casualties like that battle again.
Here in Chicago, we’re getting the MILWAUKEE PBS station starting at 7 and 9central, Chicago on WTTW starts at 8 with replay starting at 10pm...just in case you’re watching baseball or recording DAMAGES on FX. I’m DVR them all and will watch them all at once...like a Band of Brothers marathon.
“I’m convinced most of the people you’re referring to are so blinded by
partisanship and (unfounded) hatred for the President and the GOP they’re
incapable of seeing the Islamofascist evil for what it is. ...”
And they were probably cheering on The “President of Iran” today during
his speech portraying the USA as the sourc of evil for the last sixty years.
Gawd, I hate to even think some Americans are committed to that sort of thought.
But I guess we’ve got to accept it as part of a “pluralistic” society.
Fatal Flood on PBSs
American Experience series.
Yea that was it thank you i forgot the name i learned alot watching that i just don’t remember titles very well ...
War is Hell.....I suppose that’s why many won’t talk. My father never said a word. My father-in-law finally said a FEW words a couple of years ago. I often wonder if it affected their fathering abilities....since they both were uncommunicative and very distant fathers.
RE: first publication of dead American soldiers in Life Magazine
after 21(?) months at war
Anybody who lives near any sort of major research (university) library should
schedule in AT LEAST a couple of hours to find the bound volumes of
Life Magazine for the WWII years.
The advertizements are GREAT...total dedication to winning, give up
your seat on the train so a soldier in transit can rest, etc., etc.....
According to my local TV listings (Texas—Central Time), the program begins at 8 pm not 7 pm.
“War is Hell.....I suppose thats why many wont talk. My father never
said a word. My father-in-law finally said a FEW words a couple of years ago.”
You’ve probably hit on a major reason of the silence.
The 101st Airborne guy in my church...I had NO clue that he’d even been
in the military while I attended the same church for at least five years.
AFAIK, he made no public comment until Gulf War I when he gave sort
of a local morale talk to the local troops mobilized and headed to
“According to my local TV listings (TexasCentral Time), the program
begins at 8 pm not 7 pm.”
Besides usually being a TV version of The NY Times and Pravda, the PBS
system is a fairly uncoordinated (SCREWED-UP!) mess.
Here in Mid-Missouri, one SOME nights, programs that air on the PBS station
in Sedalia air one hour later on the PBS station located in St. Louis.
Of course, for one or two series, I take advantage of this...but
it’s “no way to run a railroad!”.
Or a network that depends on OUR Confiscated Tax Dollars!!!
The library I went to has them all in bound volumes.
The librarian told me some of the individual editions are worth more than $100.
That is one of the funniest parodies I have ever seen. Pure genius!
“With The Marines At Tarawa”
Hmm...I need to research that a bit.
I always remember the message some Marine sent back to ship during an
extremely harrowing landing:
“The issue is in doubt”
All right...time to “Go For Broke”
I’m recording every segment for later viewing.
from the PBS website for “The War”,
“Narrated by KEITH DAVID with TOM HANKS, JOSH LUCAS,
BOBBY CANNAVALE, SAMUEL L. JACKSON, ELI WALLACH, among others;”
I thought I recognized Keith David, he’s got “great pipes” and does
narration for a fair number of documentaries.
Watching Burns shows is sort of a game to see if you can recognize
Of course Tom Hanks as the voice of the news reporter in Minnesota
was a cinch.
And Eli Wallach as the rich California farmer with relatives caught
in The Phillipines was pretty easy.
But, for some of the “voice-overs”, I’ve not been able to peg them yet.
If Samuel L. Jackson actually lent his voice to “The War”, I’m suprised
he wasn’t cursing a blue-streak during the Pearl Harbor sequences.
(Maybe he did and I missed it)
Keith David has a very familiar voice. Thanks for the great info!
Italy in the spring. My dad got trench foot so bad, they considered taking off his feet. Thank God for pencillin, which was being used for infections, it saved his feet.
They might talk about Normandy tonight. The same day that our troops landed there, the 5th army took Rome.
“Italy in the spring.”
I got to hear a bit about Anzio from an organic chemistry prof. during grad. school.
He talked about how he’d visit a neighboring fox-hole just to break the
tension...return to his foxhole/dugout...and in a minute or two his friends
would vanish in a direct hit.
Not the sort of story you get out profs that were draft age during Vietnam.
I don’t think I ever met a tenured prof from that era who’d done a hitch.
My dad was at Cassino. He spoke with respect of the german soldiers who were at Cassino.
Too much attention paid to the status of Japanese and Black Americans During the war. Yes of course, it was horrendous and shameful in retrospect; but somehow it seems out of place and jarring in this Documentary.
The treatment of minorities during WWII may have been best left to a Doc dedicated that to that subject alone. Maybe not—I don’t know.
Overall, the more I watch, the more I think it doesn’t quite congeal. He’s trying to do too much — oscillating between war theaters and the conditions at home.
As for the voices of “The War”, that Katherine Phillips (of Mobile, AL)...
I think she’s about as close to Shelby Foote (of “The Civil War”) as
we’re gonna’ get during this series.
My son called me about 15 mins ago and said Ma- you want to know what war’s like- turn this on...
I can’t believe I didn’t know it was on..but I knew FR would have a thread..
Has it been this good all night?
Wow cool cartoon about changing bacon fat to glycerin.
Amazing, isn’t it...
My mom used to tell me about rationing- and how ONCE in a blue moon they would get a little real butter...it was like winning the lotto...and they gave all their iron beds too..
What a country!