Posted on 09/30/2007 10:12:11 AM PDT by traviskicks
Edited on 09/30/2007 4:01:53 PM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]
Manchester – Calls to abolish the Internal Revenue Service and repeal the Constitutional amendment that established the federal income tax drew loud applause yesterday for Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul.
The Texas Congressman drew an eclectic mix of more than 500 supporters -- young and old, Libertarians and anti-war Democrats, independents and conservative Republicans -- who cheered his message of limited government, low taxes, free markets, bringing the troops home from Iraq, and returning to a monetary policy based on the gold standard.
Paul said the gathering at Veterans Park wasn't about him, but about his message -- which, he said, has been resonating with more and more people.
"Something very significant is happening in this country today. The paradigm is shifting away from government controlling our lives by force," he said. "People are sick and tired of what's happening and want to control (their) own lives."
He said people should be able to keep 100 percent of the fruits of their labor. Income tax is an example of the government controlling people, he said, as are the draft, prohibition on drugs, seat belt laws and other regulations.
Paul said current monetary policy amounts to a "secret sinister tax" that takes wealth from the middle class and poor, and redistributes money to Wall Street and the wealthy. The crowd broke into applause when he said the federal reserve system should be abolished.
Earlier in the day, Paul told three New Hampshire reporters he hoped to turn the enthusiasm his campaign has generated -- through the Internet, in "meet-ups" and through campaign donations -- into votes.
The physician-turned-politician said he expects to spend more and more time in New Hampshire. "The slogan on your license plate would indicate this should be fertile ground for us here," he said, alluding to the state's "Live Free or Die" motto.
Paul said he is running on the same policies President Bush advocated when he ran in 2000, which, he added, are the same ones Republicans have run on for years: a balanced budget, limited government, personal freedom and no nation building.
"Most Republicans -- the leadership in Washington -- don't believe in their own platform; that's why they are losing," Paul said.
Rather than try to spread democracy around the world, he said, politicians ought to focus on some of the shortcomings in this country.
"You don't get a fair shake unless you join the establishment," he said.
Paul, who ran for President in 1988 as the Libertarian Party's nominee, said it's more practical to run as a Republican, noting he spent half of his money in 1988 just trying to get on the ballot in all 50 states.
The door-to-door canvassing that followed the rally -- dubbed the Paul Family Walk -- included about 30 family members who led groups of campaigners in the Queen City, Concord and Nashua. Paul himself visited New England College, Dartmouth College and the Dartmouth Medical School after the rally.
Liz Viering and her husband Peter, from Stonington, Conn., said Paul's opposition to the war in Iraq is the major reason they are supporting him. "Money spent on wars of choice takes money away from other programs," she said.
Miles LaPlant, a 21-year old college student from Attleboro, Mass., said Paul is the first candidate who has captured his attention. LaPlant said he likes Paul's stances regarding the Constitution and the country's founding principles.
Jason Kantz, his wife, Angela, and their two children came up from Cambridge, Mass., for the rally. Kantz said Paul "is the only candidate that gives logical answers and means what he says."
He said Paul's stand on the war in Iraq is also an important issue for him. "We need to reduce our involvement around the world and the amount of money we are spending," Kantz said.
Long-time Libertarian Party member Dennis Corrigan of Boxford, Mass., said he supported Paul when the Congressman ran for President as the Libertarian nominee. He said he has been a Libertarian for 40 years and headed the party in Canada at one time.
Corrigan and a friend were soliticiting signatures for a Massachusetts ballot initiative outlawing the income tax. Corrigan said his friend moved to New Hampshire as part of the Free State Project, adding that he plans to move to the state, as well.
Thomas Clark, Minister of the Somersworth Tri-City Convenant Church, gave the invocation for the rally. Before the rally, he said he supports Paul because of his pro-life stance. "The pro-life issue is a major issue for me," Clark said.
Paul concluded the rally by encouraging his supporters to keep the faith, saying most mass movements have been driven by only 2 or 3 percent of the population.
"You are part of that 3 percent today," he said.
A word from Jim Robinson to the moonbats:
To all antiwar moonbats, Paulistas included:
Hey, if you don't like FR and or our support the war policies leave. Go find a website that supports your unfortunate, short-sighted and misguided antiwar efforts. It's really that simple.
In case you antiwar Paulistas haven't noticed, Free Republic supports the war effort 100%. Many of our chapters protest against the antiwar moonbats either weekly, monthly or whenever the opportunity arises. The DC Chapter has been protesting against the antiwar moonbats EVERY Friday night at Walter Reed for three years.
Free Republic has co-sponsored several cross country caravans and hundreds of rallies in cities all across the country and in DC against the antiwar moonbats and in support of our Commander-in-chief, our troops, the war effort and our Gold Star and Blue Star families, many of whom are FReepers.
When you are supporting antiwar moonbats you are working against Free Republic's mission, hurting our efforts, hurting our families who have lost loved ones or have loved ones involved in the fighting, hurting our troops, damaging their morale, working against our efforts to defeat the enemy, and, in fact, giving aid and comfort to the enemy.
Antiwar moonbats are the domestic enemy. Antiwar moonbats willingly give aid and comfort to the enemy during wartime. In my book, that's tantamount to treason. Ron Paul is an antiwar moonbat. You figure it out. If antiwar moonbats are the enemy and Ron Paul is an aid and comfort supplying antiwar moonbat, then Ron Paul IS the enemy!
If you Paulistas are looking for support on FR for an antiwar moonbat who is giving aid and comfort to our enemies, you're nuts! Free Republic will NEVER support antiwar moonbats!
As far as our official policy on Ron Paul is concerned, it's the same policy we have for his antiwar moonbat allies the traitors Harry Reid, Chuckie Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, Jack Murtha, Cindy Sheehan, Barbara Streisand, Jane Fonda, CodePink, International Answer, et al and their flaming antiwar spam monkeys. Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!
Where the hell did you guys ever get the idea that enemy supporting antiwar moonbats would be welcome on FR?
That plain enough for you or do I need to spell it out?
You mean that FDT is not a Bircher??? Shocking!!! And one more reason to vote for him. Don’t look now but the CFR and a bunch of international bankers are hiding under your bed.
I have to disagree. The best pizza is actually a place in Carrollton, TX called Mr. Jim’s Pizza, second is Pizza King in Longview, TX.
NCSteve has been baiting Eternal Vigilance because EV is well known to care passionately about Scripture and to strive to live with Scripture as his guide in life. If I were being baited like that, I would have no problem ignoring the bait.
Whatever anyone thinks that Scripture means, paleoPaulie is a despicably antiwar antiAmerican. Further he is a fake, phony and fraud in numerous respects cited too often to bother with yet again.
Eternal Vigilance is choosing a candidate this year who is not my own but his choice is quite understandable and even commendable given his premises and those of his candidate. Not even Mrs. Paul could justify any patriot voting for the moonbat that she married, even if she is into the shrimpin' bidness, trolleys, buses and nursing scholarships as well as fish sticks.
Being friendly to the memory of La Rand, the serial adulterer, pro-abort and atheist pseudo-philosophical queen does not help one's reputation for conservatism either.
As to your attack on JimRob, backatcha.
With profound respect which you have earned, Mr. Jim’s Pizza must be an awful lot better than his opinions. Even so, Sally is now making pizzas for God. His widow and children are carrying on for all the things that matter in terms of pizza.
Their excuses for Ron Paul voting against putting the military on the border because it also stops drug smugglers (because Paul is against the WOD) is crazy.
What is the point any more? We know Paul is all talk and is all about symbolism over substance, but that won't stop his cult of sheep from pasting 20 page paragraphs from Lew Rockwell's blog on how wonderful Paul is.
I never thought I would see the day when we had people on the Right spending as much time explaining what a Republican candidate 'really meant' by what he said or how he voted as much as the dems did for John Kerry.
Note that you have not disagreed with the truth I posted.
Note that you have not disagreed with the truth I posted.
And $6,000 screwdrivers, $30,000 toilet seats, etc. Seriously you don't believe those vehicles cost that much do you? Like anything else the government gets its hands on, it's a grift. I wouldn't trust a government contractor to tell the truth about actual costs if their life depended on it.
Even if this equipment cost this much (which it doesn't), as the programs on the domestic front are shut down and the federal government returns to its very limited stasis, monies collected from taxes on the states, federal gas tax, etc. would pay for the Armed Forces.
“Obviously the market could regulate health better than the government, and yes this solution would work: you have failed to show how it couldn’t, with all due respect, friend!”
Obviously? Really? You’ve presented nothing to substantiate the argument that no health service is better than a public health service. You try and show how that would work, ‘with all due respect’ of course.
I haven't been baiting anyone. I don't know anything about Eternal Vigilance, other than his/her apparent political naiveté, so your supposition as to my motives for anything are pure conjecture on your part and more than a little bit of an example of baiting in themselves.
You may now safely resume minding your own business.
I can care less if you answer. I don’t care what a Ron Paul mental patient says or thinks.
LOL. From a kook who thinks that the IRS is going to pass out of existence? i consider that a compliment, and an endoursment of my sanity.
Interesting spelling of endoursment.
I also find it fun that Jim keeps them around anyways.
Jim, I salute your wicked sense of humor and love of good entertainment.
I will safely resume my contempt for the phoniness that nowadays passes for libertarianism. If you want to bash others for not agreeing with your support of Dr. Demento, then expect to receive incoming fire from any actual conservative here. If you want your arguments to be private, FReepmail your receptive opponents (not me because I routinely ignore uninvited FReepmail and want my arguments to be public only). Don’t bother trying to play Scriptural roulette with me even in public because I refuse to play.
And you ~Never~ really rebuted my arguments, with all due respect, Duke!
I find it very reasonable to say that in a market of freedom of information, and people’s reputations’ on the line, then they would gain more business by being healthy, unhealthy businesses would be shut down pretty quickly (because after even the “hint” of unsanitation in the perception of the general public) I would in a real free-market this would pretty much dry up the customer base; they would go out of business! We won’t ‘need’ the governmnet to ‘protect’ us. The “invisable” hand will do it for us; you compromisers need to re-read your adam smith and then Milton Friedman.
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