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We came so close to World War Three that day (More Info)
The Spectator ^ | October 3, 2007 | James Forsyth and Douglas Davis

Posted on 10/04/2007 9:39:34 AM PDT by Parmenio

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To: Parmenio
“So close to WWIII...”

Iraq fired 39 SCUD missiles at Israel in 1991. Had any of those been armed with other than HE, WWIII would have begun within an hour.....

There is no doubt in my mind that F15(E) aircraft - loaded with nukes at Sedot Mikha airfield - were sitting in underground hard stands waiting for the go code. Had they been released, not only Baghdad would have been glowing ruin, I suspect that Damascus and Tehran would have been next.

Given that Iran shared a common border with the, then still active, USSR - and a nuclear Pakistan - could have driven a exchange of Nweapons that may have led to a larger conflict.

41 posted on 10/04/2007 10:11:40 AM PDT by ASOC (Yeah, well, maybe - but can you *prove* it?)
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To: Parmenio

Thanks for posting.


42 posted on 10/04/2007 10:12:35 AM PDT by aculeus
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To: jeffers; Dog

Some more insight..


43 posted on 10/04/2007 10:15:23 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: RightWhale

Russia’s only going to support Iran for as long as Iran can afford it. Russia doesn’t need oil, as it has tremendous untapped resources of its own. Putin’s job is to keep Russia’s economy going. He’s quite good at that. He’s not going to waste time on countries that don’t/can’t pay. If he feels certain that we’ll attack Iran and take out the current regime, he won’t Russia remembered as the country that kept that regime going, as then the new regime won’t do business with Russia. Plenty of other rich countries to do business with. And plenty of patience for a better time to act.


44 posted on 10/04/2007 10:15:33 AM PDT by DrGunsforHands
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To: Parmenio
...commandos sent soil samples and evidence back to Israel prior to the raid......

What would soil samples indicate?

I would think that the samples would be of tailings. Perhaps centrifuge tailings. After the uranium was separated, the non usable residue would be discarded where commandos could get at it.

45 posted on 10/04/2007 10:15:35 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Moveon is not us...... Moveon is the enemy)
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To: tcrlaf

Cool!


46 posted on 10/04/2007 10:16:04 AM PDT by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: tcrlaf
“The technology allows users to invade communications networks, see what enemy sensors see, and even take over as systems administrator so sensors can be manipulated into positions so that approaching aircraft can’t be seen,” Aviation Week explains. “The process involves locating enemy emitters with great precision and then directing data streams into them that can include false targets and misleading message algorithms.”

How cool is that?

47 posted on 10/04/2007 10:17:57 AM PDT by Recovering Hermit ("A liberal feels a great debt to his fellow man, which debt he proposes to pay off with your money.")
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To: Parmenio

Operation Orchard? What about “Operation Knock Their D&*K in the Dirt”???


48 posted on 10/04/2007 10:18:22 AM PDT by steel_resolve (90 Guns per 100 Americans...You will never take us.)
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To: DrGunsforHands

C’mon. If the Israelis admitted it, the North Koreans would deny it.


49 posted on 10/04/2007 10:18:25 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Jim Noble

The facility was right on the Euphrates, so if it’s rained there since, you should be able to get readings all the way down to Iraq.


50 posted on 10/04/2007 10:19:28 AM PDT by txhurl (Yes there were WMDs)
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To: massgopguy
Cuban submarines were armed with nuclear torpedoes. The B-19 submarine, as all Cuban subs did, had Russian officers. One day they were getting depth charged by an American Destroyer. Two out of three command offices voted to use the Nukes. One did not. That man alone stopped WW III, as it had to be unanimous to launch.

When I saw this on the History Channel the other day it completely freaked me out. How different my childhood would have been.....

51 posted on 10/04/2007 10:20:03 AM PDT by scan59 (Let consumers dictate market policies. Government just gets in the way.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

....Israel destroyed the NK warheads .....

Matter can neither be created or destroyed.

How could they destroy bombgrade fissionable material?

Unless stolen, it is still there.


52 posted on 10/04/2007 10:20:18 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Moveon is not us...... Moveon is the enemy)
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To: BallyBill

The silence on the episode...comes from Syria who doesn’t want to admit that they had a real nuke missile facility in the works. This would toss the Saudis just one more reason to go out and buy their own nukes from some other 3rd world country.


53 posted on 10/04/2007 10:22:27 AM PDT by pepsionice
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54 posted on 10/04/2007 10:25:37 AM PDT by SJackson (isolationism never was, never will be acceptable response to[expansionist] tyrannical governments)
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To: AppyPappy

My question is this- if you blow up a nuclear device of some kind- isn’t there apt to be some radioactive activity in the area now? Or is that dependent on exactly WHAT the componenets were?

(Not a chemist in this, or any other, lifetime)


55 posted on 10/04/2007 10:26:30 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: pepsionice

“toss the Saudis just one more reason to go out and buy their own nukes”

It’s been whispered for DECADES (As far back as the mid-80’s, I recall) that the Saudi’s already have thier own nuke/nukes.

And that the two largest oilfields were rigged for nuclear destruction should Saddam have invaded.


56 posted on 10/04/2007 10:27:41 AM PDT by tcrlaf (You can lead a Liberal to LOGIC, but you can't make it THINK)
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To: bert
Unless stolen, it is still there.

Well, if they used a nuclear bomb to destroy the building, nobody's going near it. That might be the real reason for the big silence - the first use of nuclear weapons in war since WWII.

57 posted on 10/04/2007 10:28:57 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: Pride in the USA; Stillwaters

I wonder...will we ever know?


58 posted on 10/04/2007 10:29:57 AM PDT by lonevoice (It's always "Apologize to a Muslim Hour"...somewhere)
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To: Spktyr

An all-important comma here: “In the event, they were not needed...”

I read this as the fighter planes were there to take out any attempt to shoot down the missle(s)? that delivered the actual strike.

I paused a long time at this particular phrasing and wished the author had elucidated his point.


59 posted on 10/04/2007 10:34:26 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: bert

Not in any usable form. It would be vaporized and strewn across hundreds of square miles. We don’t even know what type of weapons Israel used on the facility. Would take a long time to clean up the facility and even longer to recover the scattered material, if that’s even possible. Would be somewhat akin to the incident where a US B-52 carrying multiple nuclear warheads crashed and/or dumped its cargo to avoid crashing somewhere in Spain. Real nasty aftermath. No detonations, but there was dispersal. Not a short-term cleanup.


60 posted on 10/04/2007 10:35:03 AM PDT by DrGunsforHands
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