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Bush fights Texas over Mexican's death row case
Houston Chronicle ^ | October 7, 2007

Posted on 10/09/2007 9:46:25 AM PDT by uxbridge

To put it bluntly, Texas wants President Bush to get out of the way of the state's plan to execute a Mexican for the brutal killing of two teenage girls.

Bush, who presided over 152 executions as governor of Texas, wants to halt the execution of Jose Ernesto Medellin in what has become a confusing test of presidential power that the Supreme Court, which hears the case this week, ultimately will sort out.

The president wants to enforce a decision by the International Court of Justice that found the convictions of Medellin and 50 other Mexican-born prisoners violated their rights to legal help as outlined in the 1963 Vienna Convention.

That is the same court Bush has since said he plans to ignore if it makes similar decisions affecting state criminal laws.

"The president does not agree with the ICJ's interpretation of the Vienna Convention," the administration said in arguments filed with the court. This time, though, the U.S. agreed to abide by the international court's decision because ignoring it would harm American interests abroad, the government said.

Texas argues that neither the international court nor Bush has any say in Medellin's case.

Medellin was born in Mexico but spent much of his childhood in the United States. He was 18 in June 1993, when he and other members of the Black and Whites gang in Houston encountered two teenage girls on a railroad trestle.

The girls were gang-raped and strangled. Their bodies were found four days later.

Medellin was arrested a few days later. He was told he had a right to remain silent and have a lawyer present, but the police did not tell him that he could request assistance from the Mexican Consulate.

Medellin gave a written confession. He was convicted of murder in the course of a sexual assault, a capital offense in Texas. A judge sentenced him to death in October 1994.

Medellin did not raise the lack of assistance from Mexican diplomats during his trial or sentencing. When he did claim his rights had been violated, Texas and federal courts turned him down because he had not objected at his trial. Mexico later sued the United States in the International Court of Justice in The Hague on behalf of Medellin and 50 other Mexicans on death row in the U.S.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; bush; compean; crimaliens; hispandering; immigrantlist; immigration; presidentbush; ramos; raped; readdailykos; strangled; voteclinton2008
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To: uxbridge

“The president does not agree with the ICJ’s interpretation of the Vienna Convention,” the administration said in arguments filed with the court. This time, though, the U.S. agreed to abide by the international court’s decision because ignoring it would harm American interests abroad, the government said.”

Abiding by it hurts Americans here at home. Just ask the families of those two girls.


41 posted on 10/09/2007 10:55:30 AM PDT by InsensitiveConservative
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To: uxbridge

Bush WTF-#76. I’m sure there’s a perfectly acceptable legal explanation. You know...like with Ramos and Compean...


42 posted on 10/09/2007 10:58:02 AM PDT by reuben kincaid (Diplomacy's for pussies...)
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To: processing please hold

drip = don’t reelect incumbent politicians


43 posted on 10/09/2007 10:58:05 AM PDT by B4Ranch (( "Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share." ))
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To: uxbridge

State’s right issue and Bush knows it.

The worm just can’t stop turning!


44 posted on 10/09/2007 11:02:47 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: B4Ranch
drip = don’t reelect incumbent politicians

Term limits should keep the pool refreshed. ;)

45 posted on 10/09/2007 11:03:53 AM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: processing please hold

Hpefully it falls on it’s face.


46 posted on 10/09/2007 11:08:21 AM PDT by SouthTexas
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To: SouthTexas
Hpefully it falls on it’s face.

We shall see.

47 posted on 10/09/2007 11:14:44 AM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: processing please hold
"The IJC is the judicial body of the un. Bush has acquiesced our law for theirs. In doing this he has proclaimed “their” laws over ride ours. This is only the beginning."

If so, that's a direct violation of our constitution, and a violation of his oath of office, in which he swears to protect the constitution.

Strange that the RATS aren't screaming to have him impeached over this. It might actually have teeth.

48 posted on 10/09/2007 11:17:38 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: processing please hold
Yep, and hopefully too.
49 posted on 10/09/2007 11:21:25 AM PDT by SouthTexas
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To: uxbridge

50 posted on 10/09/2007 11:25:22 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: uxbridge

“International Court of Justice”

If I were the governor of Texas I execute the SOB and tell Bush he can go be the ICJ’s President. What’s Bush going to do about it??


51 posted on 10/09/2007 11:33:01 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: uxbridge
A judge sentenced him to death in October 1994.

Why didn't Bush take up the cause when he was governor? While he couldn't unilaterally pardon the guy, he could have leaned on the board to make a recommendation and then issued the pardon. Of course, then he might have ended up with a Willie Horton on his hands.

52 posted on 10/09/2007 11:33:33 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: Nathan Zachary
If so, that's a direct violation of our constitution, and a violation of his oath of office, in which he swears to protect the constitution.

It most definitely is.

Strange that the RATS aren't screaming to have him impeached over this. It might actually have teeth.

Not strange at all. The majority of the rats agree. If a stink arises over this and the American people start to ride them like we did on shamenesty, the dims will run for cover-then they will start attacking it. Until then, they have no problem with it.

53 posted on 10/09/2007 11:33:49 AM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: SouthTexas
Yep, and hopefully too.

Amen. May it fall flat on it's face.

54 posted on 10/09/2007 11:35:49 AM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: anotherdubya

“on the surface appears bad, but the big picture may be something else.”

If an American goes to a foreign country they do so at their own risk and agree to obey their laws and be subject to such laws. If an American decides to go to a bannana republic then they accept all responsibility if they are kangaroo’d. We should not project American justice into any other country least they expect to do the same.


55 posted on 10/09/2007 11:36:41 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


56 posted on 10/09/2007 11:51:53 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: uxbridge; All
It's U.S. versus Texas in death penalty case

Supreme Court to rule whether international treaty trumps state law

57 posted on 10/09/2007 11:53:32 AM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: CodeToad
If I were the governor of Texas I execute the SOB and tell Bush he can go be the ICJ’s President. What’s Bush going to do about it??

ROFLMAO! You want Rick Perry to do what!
58 posted on 10/09/2007 12:00:10 PM PDT by TexanByBirth (San Antonio Spurs - 2007 NBA Champions!)
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To: uxbridge; pulaskibush; call meVeronica; AnimalLover; rineaux; Roamin53; genxer; time4good; ...

Presidente Ping!

If you want on, or off this S. Texas/Mexico ping list, please FReepMail me.


59 posted on 10/09/2007 1:43:16 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (US Constitution Article 4 Section 4..shall protect each of them against Invasion...domestic Violence)
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To: PAR35
Exactly.

Bush's action is bizarre. That he would support for this horrific rapist/pedophile/killer creates disturbing implications.

60 posted on 10/09/2007 3:00:03 PM PDT by Dante3
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