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Ruger P345: reviews & Recommendations
10/13/2007

Posted on 10/13/2007 6:27:32 PM PDT by MichaelP

I'm considering buying a Ruger P345 for CC. The written reviews I've read are excellent. However, it has to pass the Freeper peer review board before I buy it. So what do you think?

Mike


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KEYWORDS: banglist; concealedcarry; gunporn; ruger45acp
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To: mamelukesabre

Ok, have you any idea exactly how big that thing already is?

And you want to add a Nagant system?

Fuzzy dice hanging from the muzzle?


121 posted on 10/14/2007 7:52:39 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Hunter '08)
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To: El Gato

The one I used had the 10 round rotary.


122 posted on 10/14/2007 7:53:52 PM PDT by wastedyears (I don't wanna grow up, help : /)
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To: Shooter 2.5
Big and heavy, yes. That’s why I would turn it into a cattleman carbine. But the whole point is to make it curiouser and curiouser, isn’t it? I mean the thing is already a curiosity. Might as well make it moreso. But an automatic nagant system would be a sight to behold, don’t you agree? I mean I could look at a mechanism like that for a long time just admiring it.

I’ll pass on the fuzzy dice. Mabe a chrome naked lady silhouette on the stock though...haha, only kidding. But I noticed you aren't criticizing my ten shot idea anymore.

123 posted on 10/14/2007 8:07:04 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: Armedanddangerous

Minor nit to pick, 007 carries a PPK, not a P-99.


124 posted on 10/14/2007 8:15:58 PM PDT by Mike-o-Matic
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To: Mike-o-Matic

Actually, he changed to the P99 in Tomorrow Never Dies.

“I’ve been after Q to get me one of these.”

Walther even makes a 007 commemorative P99.

It’s a great pistol, take a look at it.


125 posted on 10/14/2007 11:15:04 PM PDT by Armedanddangerous (Chuin, Master of Sinanju (emeritus))
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To: mamelukesabre
I’ve been told that the glock is designed to flex under recoil. This is supposedly glock’s way of reducing felt recoil.

First time I've heard that. I was always told that the Glock has less "felt recoil" because the axis of the bore is so close to the hand. So a Glock 45 will feel like it's kicking less than a Colt Government model because the barrel on the colts sits a bit higher above the frame. This low bore axis ratio is also what makes the Glock a natural "point" shooter....

126 posted on 10/15/2007 8:28:13 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: MichaelP

Well, this is just one person’s experience, but here goes:

My first auto was a Ruger P-94 in 9mm, which I bought long ago, before I knew anything about how a pistol should fit one’s hand. Although I qualified for my CWL with it, it never felt right. Also, the location/accessibility of its slide-mounted safety is poor IMO. Though I have large hands, I found it to be very blocky and ill-fitting.

However, the biggest problem by far was that regardless of how clean or dirty it was, or what type of ammunition used, it jammed far too frequently to be reliable.

I replaced it with a 9mm all-steel EAA Witness (CZ-75 clone by Tanfoglio) in Wonderfinish. Perfect fit, accurate, and flawless with about 1650 rounds of all types of ammo through it, and in varying states from immaculate to filthy.
I’ve owned it for years, and had my first and only problem with it about a month ago at the range, when it jammed on one specific brand of ammo.

While EAA (the importer) has a reputation for very poor customer service, I’ve never needed them. The Tanfoglio guns are very highly regarded, as are other CZ clones. And, of course, the CZ’s themselves are legendary. (Although the Tanfoglio guns have higher magazine capacities yet a slightly slimmer grip. Their 9mm holds 18+1!)

A year or so ago, I added a fullsize steel Witness in .45 to my collection, for only $269 brand-new! Another purchase with which I’m very pleased.

I carry one of the EAA’s when the situation calls for it, and am ALWAYS armed with my Kel-Tec P-3AT, except where I’m (unconstitutionally) not permitted to do so.


127 posted on 10/15/2007 1:10:03 PM PDT by gbunch (Southern gun-totin' terrorist- and liberal-hatin' warm and fuzzy guy! GO FRED!)
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To: gbunch

The new CZ-75 SP-01 in 9mm holds 19+1. I got to shoot one at a special exibition by some factory reps. It is VERY nice.

http://www.cz-usa.com/product_detail.php?id=73

The best part about the witness, IMO, is that it’s available in 10mm. I hate ruger autos. They look horrible and they have a screwy breakdown procedure and they feel cheap. My favorite CZ variant was the IMI jericho. Now that I’ve tried the new SP-01, I’m not so sure. The SP-01 might be better. The jerico still looks better though.


128 posted on 10/15/2007 2:27:03 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: Armedanddangerous

Zoinks! I did not know he’d switched. A quick Wikipedia check confirms that you are, of course, correct. Sorry ‘bout that.


129 posted on 10/15/2007 8:16:25 PM PDT by Mike-o-Matic
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To: mamelukesabre
But the whole point is to make it curiouser and curiouser, isn’t it?

Maybe for you but not for my intended purpose after I bought it. It was made for a specialized match like falling plates or bowling pin matches where someone like Jerry Miculek wouldn't have to worry about the extended lock time of an auto. Add the lessened muzzle flip of an auto and you had the best of both worlds. If you were that good to worry about locktime, you were good enough not to concern yourself with reloading.

130 posted on 10/16/2007 6:09:16 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Hunter '08)
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To: Shooter 2.5
I never even thought about the mateba used for these matches. How come I’ve never heard of it being used in these matches?

Something tells me that Jerry Miculek could rapid fire a worked over smith&wesson faster than he could a mateba. But the lowered barrel of the mateba could definitely be an asset.

Is your’s chambered for 45ACP and full moon clips?

131 posted on 10/16/2007 6:25:08 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: Shooter 2.5
I just looked up mateba on wikipedia. Apparently, they did make a rifle(or cattleman, as I called it) version. It had an 18” bbl. Now I’m really interested. They really should’ve made one for the 30 carbine cartridge with full moon clips. I really do think they could’ve crammed in 10 rounds into that cylinder...that is if it’s as big as the N frame smith cylinder. The nagant style gas seal idea of mine maybe isn’t so doable though.
132 posted on 10/16/2007 6:43:19 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: mamelukesabre

My Mateba is chambered for .357 Mag and the other calibers it was chambered for are 44. Mag and .454 Casull. I have never seen a listing for a Casull for sale.

After checking, any redesign for .45 caliber moonclips is out of the question. There just isn’t enough room at the rear of the cylinder.


133 posted on 10/17/2007 6:53:14 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Hunter '08)
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To: umgud

Just give me a punt gun.


134 posted on 10/17/2007 6:54:03 PM PDT by LetsRok
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To: umgud

Don’t laugh, I went to a gun show once, and there was a 45-70 revolver. That thing was a serious boat anchor, a monster. I don’t think I’d want to pull the trigger on that.


135 posted on 10/17/2007 7:11:35 PM PDT by FlyVet
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To: Shooter 2.5
The more I look at this mateba, the more intrigued I am. I just realized something fascinating about the design. With the barrel at the bottom of the cylinder, the stresses on the top strap are greatly reduced (I think). As I see it, the weakness of the standard revolver in which the top strap becomes elongated from abusive handloads should be about non-existent in the mateba.
136 posted on 10/17/2007 7:34:46 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: mamelukesabre
As I see it, the weakness of the standard revolver in which the top strap becomes elongated from abusive handloads should be about non-existent in the mateba.

I guess so since there isn't one.

137 posted on 10/17/2007 7:55:38 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Hunter '08)
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To: Shooter 2.5
...even more fascinating.

And without a top strap it is still able to withstand the pounding of the 454 cartridge. Wow. I suspect the sliding motion of the upper (receiver?) also helps to reduce the pounding on the frame.
138 posted on 10/17/2007 8:44:59 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: mamelukesabre

I think you missed another innovation. Did you notice the lack of slots on the outside of the cylinder that usually lock the cylinder?

The trigger also has a adjustment screw for overtravel.


139 posted on 10/18/2007 5:06:57 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Hunter '08)
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To: Shooter 2.5

You are correct. I missed that. So how does it keep timed anyway?


140 posted on 10/18/2007 5:24:28 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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