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Catholic Church Protecting Hispanics
Fox 23 (Oklahoma) ^
| November 7, 2007
| Emily Sinovic
Posted on 11/07/2007 7:04:43 PM PST by yorkie
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The first sentence calls them 'illegal immigrants' - but not the headline (which doesn't even show on the article.)
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posted on
11/07/2007 7:04:45 PM PST
by
yorkie
To: yorkie
"Priests are pledging to go to jail if that's what it takes to protect illegal immigrants from the immigration crackdown."
No problem.
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posted on
11/07/2007 7:06:41 PM PST
by
fieldmarshaldj
(~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
To: yorkie
Caesar=Caesar....God=God....!
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posted on
11/07/2007 7:08:02 PM PST
by
Don Corleone
(Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
To: fieldmarshaldj
Why not just send them to VaticaN CITY?
They could wash windows, scrub toilets, wash clothes ... I mean ... there's a ton of jobs at the Vatican that others won't do ... or would like to get out of.
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posted on
11/07/2007 7:11:10 PM PST
by
knarf
(I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
To: yorkie
The Church is under no obligation to check the citizenship of people who attend Mass. But it would be wrong to hire any of them. And it would be wrong to help them disobey or evade the law.
I understand their sympathy. But this is just wrong.
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posted on
11/07/2007 7:11:36 PM PST
by
Cicero
(Marcus Tullius)
To: fieldmarshaldj
Yep. Plenty of folks on the inside that need minstering to the way I see it.
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posted on
11/07/2007 7:15:01 PM PST
by
Hawk1976
(747 superliners crashed into the WTC on 9/11, Steny Hoyer told me so on 8/7/07.)
To: Don Corleone
Caesar=Caesar....God=God....!
Exactly right. Governments come and go, but the Church is forever. All people, not just Christians, are obligated to obey their own informed conscience above any merely human law. That principle was finally codified in the Nuremberg Trials, when the Nazi excuse of
"I was only following lawful orders" was rightly condemned.
Along with following one's conscience, though, comes the accepting of any societal consequences, which these religious have spoken to.
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posted on
11/07/2007 7:21:08 PM PST
by
Hornitos
To: yorkie
The first sentence calls them 'illegal immigrants' - but not the headline (which doesn't even show on the article.)
The page title does show the title you posted, but it is a misnomer. The news article makes the mistake which some here do, equating Hispanics with illegal immigrants.
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posted on
11/07/2007 7:24:23 PM PST
by
Hornitos
To: Hornitos
There is still that commandment from the Heavenly Father to Moses that still stands.... Thou shalt not steal. Taking taxpayer dollars to fund illegal activity is NOT of God.
To: fieldmarshaldj
Most American Catholics are pissed at their church because of the child molestation. Add aiding and abetting illegal immigrants, and they will become Protestants.
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posted on
11/07/2007 7:33:28 PM PST
by
Fee
To: Hornitos
The news article makes the mistake which some here do, equating Hispanics with illegal immigrants.And some here make the mistake of believing the American taxpayer should support the entire third world
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posted on
11/07/2007 7:36:19 PM PST
by
Ajnin
(Neca Eos Omnes. Deus Suos Agnoset.)
To: yorkie
Interesting. Thanks for posting.
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posted on
11/07/2007 7:37:30 PM PST
by
PGalt
To: yorkie
This makes me so mad. Aiding and abetting illegal immigrants who are taking over our country. These Catholics are essentially doing the same thing Fruity-Rudy did in setting up a sanctuary city in New York. They should be arrested and jailed for a very long time. And if it turns out they’re taking orders from Rome, I don’t even want to say what I’d suggest.
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posted on
11/07/2007 7:42:14 PM PST
by
mngran2
To: yorkie
Catholic social teaching is difficult. This should not be a surprise. Writing handbooks on tactics is easy. Fighting a battle when bullets are flying is hard.
Lots of priests get it wrong. This is not a scandal, not to me. It's hard to get it right.
But, with all respect, they got it wrong. It doesn't weaken my faith in the Catholic Church. I never had too much faith in the clergy. They got it wrong? what a surprise,
Not.
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posted on
11/07/2007 7:43:38 PM PST
by
Mad Dawg
(Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
To: yorkie
Slattery is an orthodox, faithful Catholic bishop. I was suspicious of the excerpts and headline, so I read the whole article. It’s mostly about the Church refusing to use the sacraments or soup kitchens as ways to identify and arrest illegals. He does say that he hopes Church employees won’t be harrassed. He directly says that he understands the need to have secure borders and rule of law regarding immigration but that a single federal law would be better than this specific state law.
In short, the headline and the snippets posted here are misleading. I’d like to know what all Slattery said—I don’t particularly trust the sound-bytes in the article, but even the article puts a different spin on the misleading excerpts here.
To: yorkie
Anyone who comes in and is in need, we take care of them. That's all. We don't ask them if they are a citizen or not. Well... that's as about as good a Christian sentiment as you can find.
This is a gigantic example of a non-story.
If police, IMS, FBI, or whatever branch of the government were going to arrest Catholic priests for taking this position (which they are not) then I'm ready to line up and get arrested.
This story pisses me off, and so does the posting of this story.
To: Fee
Untrue my friend. Most Catholics understand that the pedophile scandal, while shameful, was limited to a small percentage of priests and was attributable greatly to homosexual priests.
Under no circumstances would I become a protestant just because of a few bad eggs or the weakness and sinfulness of the few. Truth is still truth regardless of some bad actors.
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posted on
11/07/2007 7:45:14 PM PST
by
CWW
(Make the most of the loss, and regroup for 2008!!)
To: yorkie
I’ll add that to my list of reasons for attending protestant churches...
To: Just mythoughts
Preaching the Good News and exercising their 1st Amendment Right to the free practice of their religion is now stealing, eh?
- And if a stranger sojourn with thee in your land, ye shall not vex him. --Leviticus 19:33
- He doth execute the judgment of the fatherless and widow, and loveth the stranger, in giving him food and raiment. --Deuteronomy 10:18
- I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. --Matthew 25:43
- They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service. -- John 16:2
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posted on
11/07/2007 7:46:54 PM PST
by
Hornitos
To: delacoert
Well said. Some humanists just want to worship human law, as if a bunch of legislators are the highest arbiter of right and wrong.
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posted on
11/07/2007 7:50:28 PM PST
by
Hornitos
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