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Surfer dude stuns physicists with theory of everything
Telegraph.co.uk ^ | 14 Nov 2007 | Roger Highfield

Posted on 11/14/2007 11:33:43 AM PST by snarks_when_bored

Surfer dude stuns physicists with theory of everything


By Roger Highfield, Science Editor
Last Updated: 6:01pm GMT 14/11/2007

An impoverished surfer has drawn up a new theory of the universe, seen by some as the Holy Grail of physics, which as received rave reviews from scientists.

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The E8 pattern (left), Garrett Lisi surfing (middle) and out of the water (right)

Garrett Lisi, 39, has a doctorate but no university affiliation and spends most of the year surfing in Hawaii, where he has also been a hiking guide and bridge builder (when he slept in a jungle yurt).

In winter, he heads to the mountains near Lake Tahoe, Nevada, where he snowboards. "Being poor sucks," Lisi says. "It's hard to figure out the secrets of the universe when you're trying to figure out where you and your girlfriend are going to sleep next month."

Despite this unusual career path, his proposal is remarkable because, by the arcane standards of particle physics, it does not require highly complex mathematics.

Even better, it does not require more than one dimension of time and three of space, when some rival theories need ten or even more spatial dimensions and other bizarre concepts. And it may even be possible to test his theory, which predicts a host of new particles, perhaps even using the new Large Hadron Collider atom smasher that will go into action near Geneva next year.

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Although the work of 39 year old Garrett Lisi still has a way to go to convince the establishment, let alone match the achievements of Albert Einstein, the two do have one thing in common: Einstein also began his great adventure in theoretical physics while outside the mainstream scientific establishment, working as a patent officer, though failed to achieve the Holy Grail, an overarching explanation to unite all the particles and forces of the cosmos.

Now Lisi, currently in Nevada, has come up with a proposal to do this. Lee Smolin at the Perimeter Institute for Theoretical Physics in Waterloo, Ontario, Canada, describes Lisi's work as "fabulous". "It is one of the most compelling unification models I've seen in many, many years," he says.

"Although he cultivates a bit of a surfer-guy image its clear he has put enormous effort and time into working the complexities of this structure out over several years," Prof Smolin tells The Telegraph.

"Some incredibly beautiful stuff falls out of Lisi's theory," adds David Ritz Finkelstein at the Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta. "This must be more than coincidence and he really is touching on something profound."

The new theory reported today in New Scientist has been laid out in an online paper entitled "An Exceptionally Simple Theory of Everything" by Lisi, who completed his doctorate in theoretical physics in 1999 at the University of California, San Diego.

He has high hopes that his new theory could provide what he says is a "radical new explanation" for the three decade old Standard Model, which weaves together three of the four fundamental forces of nature: the electromagnetic force; the strong force, which binds quarks together in atomic nuclei; and the weak force, which controls radioactive decay.

The reason for the excitement is that Lisi's model also takes account of gravity, a force that has only successfully been included by a rival and highly fashionable idea called string theory, one that proposes particles are made up of minute strings, which is highly complex and elegant but has lacked predictions by which to do experiments to see if it works.

But some are taking a cooler view. Prof Marcus du Sautoy told the Telegraph: "The proposal in this paper looks a long shot and there seem to be a lot things still to fill in."

And a colleague Eric Weinstein in America added: "Lisi seems like a hell of a guy. I'd love to meet him. But my friend Lee Smolin is betting on a very very long shot."

Lisi's inspiration lies in the most elegant and intricate shape known to mathematics, called E8 - a complex, eight-dimensional mathematical pattern with 248 points first found in 1887, but only fully understood by mathematicians this year after workings, that, if written out in tiny print, would cover an area the size of Manhattan.

E8 encapsulates the symmetries of a geometric object that is 57-dimensional and is itself is 248-dimensional. Lisi says "I think our universe is this beautiful shape."

What makes E8 so exciting is that Nature also seems to have embedded it at the heart of many bits of physics. One interpretation of why we have such a quirky list of fundamental particles is because they all result from different facets of the strange symmetries of E8.

Lisi's breakthrough came when he noticed that some of the equations describing E8's structure matched his own. "My brain exploded with the implications and the beauty of the thing," he tells New Scientist. "I thought: 'Holy crap, that's it!'"

What Lisi had realised was that he could find a way to place the various elementary particles and forces on E8's 248 points. What remained was 20 gaps which he filled with notional particles, for example those that some physicists predict to be associated with gravity.

Physicists have long puzzled over why elementary particles appear to belong to families, but this arises naturally from the geometry of E8, he says. So far, all the interactions predicted by the complex geometrical relationships inside E8 match with observations in the real world. "How cool is that?" he says.

The crucial test of Lisi's work will come only when he has made testable predictions. Lisi is now calculating the masses that the 20 new particles should have, in the hope that they may be spotted when the Large Hadron Collider starts up.

"The theory is very young, and still in development," he told the Telegraph. "Right now, I'd assign a low (but not tiny) likelyhood to this prediction.

"For comparison, I think the chances are higher that LHC will see some of these particles than it is that the LHC will see superparticles, extra dimensions, or micro black holes as predicted by string theory. I hope to get more (and different) predictions, with more confidence, out of this E8 Theory over the next year, before the LHC comes online."



TOPICS: Extended News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: maybeyesmaybeno; physics; science; stringtheory; surfer; theoryofeverything
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To: snarks_when_bored

the headline is really quite deceptive, the surfer dude actually holds a doctorate in theoretical physics.

Interesting article, too bad i am unlikely to understand E8.


21 posted on 11/14/2007 11:46:07 AM PST by WoofDog123
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To: snarks_when_bored

No big deal, Douglas Adams answered the ultimate question long ago. The answer to Life, the Universe and Everything...is 42...time now to figure out what the question is.


22 posted on 11/14/2007 11:46:14 AM PST by Sudetenland (Liberals love "McCarthism," they just believe he was targeting the wrong side.)
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To: Constantine XIII

Yep, I was athinkin’ that thar same thang jest las year after we drank up uncle zeb’s white lightnin’. You’d be surprised at what you think ‘bout after a jar or two of that stuff. :0 )


23 posted on 11/14/2007 11:46:29 AM PST by geezerwheezer (get up boys, we're burnin' daylight!!!)
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To: Dr.Deth

Darn, I took too long looking for an older photo.

Good one!


24 posted on 11/14/2007 11:46:33 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (Without the Media, the Left and Islamofacists are Nothing.)
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To: Miles the Slasher

Damn! beat me to it.


25 posted on 11/14/2007 11:46:55 AM PST by Sudetenland (Liberals love "McCarthism," they just believe he was targeting the wrong side.)
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To: Bender2

It sucks being him.


26 posted on 11/14/2007 11:47:21 AM PST by girlscout
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To: flat

If it’s simple and beautiful, odds are it’s correct. The universe never seems to want anything to do with ugly math.


27 posted on 11/14/2007 11:47:25 AM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: snarks_when_bored

Uncle Martin! Uncle Martin! I know you’re in here!


28 posted on 11/14/2007 11:48:36 AM PST by LongTimeMILurker
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To: snarks_when_bored
I have no idea what they're talking about, but I find it interesting that physicists tend to assume that beauty and simplicity are signs of a valid "theory of everything."

Maybe fundamental theories tend to be simple and beautiful. But the physicists may be inadvertantly searching for God, who is Beauty and Simplicity itself.

As one physicist stated, I eventually came to the idea of God, and realized that the theologians were already there.

29 posted on 11/14/2007 11:50:33 AM PST by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: ml/nj

self ping


30 posted on 11/14/2007 11:53:29 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: snarks_when_bored

bump for later reader


31 posted on 11/14/2007 11:54:19 AM PST by ChiefJayStrongbow
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To: madvlad

“He is likely unemployed w/ good reason.”

He may or may not be very good with holding a mundane job, but this has very little to do with his mental ability to deal with very abstract and esoteric material such as the theory he is working on. As per the article he has a doctorate in this area so presumably he knows his stuff, as I assume someone with little aptitude for theoretical physics would fare poorly in a doctorate program.

Having done a fair amount of somewhat advanced analysis, topology, and other theorem-based math work in college, I eventually saw that major stumbling blocks on problems/proofs/etc. would unravel or suddenly make more sense often at the most odd times, such as when trying to fall asleep. I concluded that the brain’s ability to deal with increasingly abstract puzzles such as that depended on some fairly different variables than, say, being able to grind out differential equations 100/hour or to hold an 8-5 job.


32 posted on 11/14/2007 11:55:04 AM PST by WoofDog123
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To: Alamo-Girl; betty boop; marron

ping


33 posted on 11/14/2007 11:55:30 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain. True Supporters of the Troops will pray for US to Win!)
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To: snarks_when_bored

I think that white dot in the center of the pic on the left is me!

34 posted on 11/14/2007 11:56:18 AM PST by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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To: Miles the Slasher
I still contend the answer is “42”!

Nah! Screwy Louis Farakhan has it figured out. The answer is "19".

35 posted on 11/14/2007 11:56:59 AM PST by jslade (The only thing you should FEEL when shooting insurgents is the rifle recoil.)
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To: Bender2

Being in Hawaii during the summer is probably the REASON he is so poor...it costs a LOT to live there and just eat.


36 posted on 11/14/2007 11:57:00 AM PST by Secret Agent Man
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To: snarks_when_bored
Spicoli shoots and scores!

Mr. Hand would have been proud.

What Jefferson was saying was, "Hey! You know, we left this England place 'cause it was bogus. So if we don't get some cool rules ourselves, pronto, we'll just be bogus too!"

37 posted on 11/14/2007 11:58:20 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("Therefore the prudent keep silent at that time, for it is an evil time." - Amos 5:13)
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To: Greg F
The E8 looks like a potholder.

It looks like a doily, not a potholder. I have disproven your theory with one simple, elegant rebuttal.

38 posted on 11/14/2007 11:58:37 AM PST by Hardastarboard (DemocraticUnderground.com is an internet hate site.)
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To: snarks_when_bored

bump


39 posted on 11/14/2007 12:00:32 PM PST by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: snarks_when_bored
"E8 encapsulates the symmetries of a geometric object that is 57-dimensional and is itself is 248-dimensional. Lisi says "I think our universe is this beautiful shape."

And I think that our universe isn't symmetrical.

40 posted on 11/14/2007 12:01:06 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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