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Surfer dude stuns physicists with theory of everything
Telegraph.co.uk ^ | 14 Nov 2007 | Roger Highfield

Posted on 11/14/2007 11:33:43 AM PST by snarks_when_bored

Surfer dude stuns physicists with theory of everything


By Roger Highfield, Science Editor
Last Updated: 6:01pm GMT 14/11/2007

An impoverished surfer has drawn up a new theory of the universe, seen by some as the Holy Grail of physics, which as received rave reviews from scientists.

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The E8 pattern (left), Garrett Lisi surfing (middle) and out of the water (right)

Garrett Lisi, 39, has a doctorate but no university affiliation and spends most of the year surfing in Hawaii, where he has also been a hiking guide and bridge builder (when he slept in a jungle yurt).

In winter, he heads to the mountains near Lake Tahoe, Nevada, where he snowboards. "Being poor sucks," Lisi says. "It's hard to figure out the secrets of the universe when you're trying to figure out where you and your girlfriend are going to sleep next month."

Despite this unusual career path, his proposal is remarkable because, by the arcane standards of particle physics, it does not require highly complex mathematics.

Even better, it does not require more than one dimension of time and three of space, when some rival theories need ten or even more spatial dimensions and other bizarre concepts. And it may even be possible to test his theory, which predicts a host of new particles, perhaps even using the new Large Hadron Collider atom smasher that will go into action near Geneva next year.

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Although the work of 39 year old Garrett Lisi still has a way to go to convince the establishment, let alone match the achievements of Albert Einstein, the two do have one thing in common: Einstein also began his great adventure in theoretical physics while outside the mainstream scientific establishment, working as a patent officer, though failed to achieve the Holy Grail, an overarching explanation to unite all the particles and forces of the cosmos.

Now Lisi, currently in Nevada, has come up with a proposal to do this. Lee Smolin at the Perimeter Institute for Theoretical Physics in Waterloo, Ontario, Canada, describes Lisi's work as "fabulous". "It is one of the most compelling unification models I've seen in many, many years," he says.

"Although he cultivates a bit of a surfer-guy image its clear he has put enormous effort and time into working the complexities of this structure out over several years," Prof Smolin tells The Telegraph.

"Some incredibly beautiful stuff falls out of Lisi's theory," adds David Ritz Finkelstein at the Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta. "This must be more than coincidence and he really is touching on something profound."

The new theory reported today in New Scientist has been laid out in an online paper entitled "An Exceptionally Simple Theory of Everything" by Lisi, who completed his doctorate in theoretical physics in 1999 at the University of California, San Diego.

He has high hopes that his new theory could provide what he says is a "radical new explanation" for the three decade old Standard Model, which weaves together three of the four fundamental forces of nature: the electromagnetic force; the strong force, which binds quarks together in atomic nuclei; and the weak force, which controls radioactive decay.

The reason for the excitement is that Lisi's model also takes account of gravity, a force that has only successfully been included by a rival and highly fashionable idea called string theory, one that proposes particles are made up of minute strings, which is highly complex and elegant but has lacked predictions by which to do experiments to see if it works.

But some are taking a cooler view. Prof Marcus du Sautoy told the Telegraph: "The proposal in this paper looks a long shot and there seem to be a lot things still to fill in."

And a colleague Eric Weinstein in America added: "Lisi seems like a hell of a guy. I'd love to meet him. But my friend Lee Smolin is betting on a very very long shot."

Lisi's inspiration lies in the most elegant and intricate shape known to mathematics, called E8 - a complex, eight-dimensional mathematical pattern with 248 points first found in 1887, but only fully understood by mathematicians this year after workings, that, if written out in tiny print, would cover an area the size of Manhattan.

E8 encapsulates the symmetries of a geometric object that is 57-dimensional and is itself is 248-dimensional. Lisi says "I think our universe is this beautiful shape."

What makes E8 so exciting is that Nature also seems to have embedded it at the heart of many bits of physics. One interpretation of why we have such a quirky list of fundamental particles is because they all result from different facets of the strange symmetries of E8.

Lisi's breakthrough came when he noticed that some of the equations describing E8's structure matched his own. "My brain exploded with the implications and the beauty of the thing," he tells New Scientist. "I thought: 'Holy crap, that's it!'"

What Lisi had realised was that he could find a way to place the various elementary particles and forces on E8's 248 points. What remained was 20 gaps which he filled with notional particles, for example those that some physicists predict to be associated with gravity.

Physicists have long puzzled over why elementary particles appear to belong to families, but this arises naturally from the geometry of E8, he says. So far, all the interactions predicted by the complex geometrical relationships inside E8 match with observations in the real world. "How cool is that?" he says.

The crucial test of Lisi's work will come only when he has made testable predictions. Lisi is now calculating the masses that the 20 new particles should have, in the hope that they may be spotted when the Large Hadron Collider starts up.

"The theory is very young, and still in development," he told the Telegraph. "Right now, I'd assign a low (but not tiny) likelyhood to this prediction.

"For comparison, I think the chances are higher that LHC will see some of these particles than it is that the LHC will see superparticles, extra dimensions, or micro black holes as predicted by string theory. I hope to get more (and different) predictions, with more confidence, out of this E8 Theory over the next year, before the LHC comes online."



TOPICS: Extended News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: maybeyesmaybeno; physics; science; stringtheory; surfer; theoryofeverything
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To: WoofDog123

“I concluded that the brain’s ability to deal with increasingly abstract puzzles such as that depended on some fairly different variables than, say, being able to grind out differential equations 100/hour or to hold an 8-5 job.”

True in other areas, too. In academia you have a very high drone ratio. Drones like intellectual conformity - they want to stay inside whatevre the standard model is..


41 posted on 11/14/2007 12:01:42 PM PST by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: snarks_when_bored

I did an E-8 drawing shortly after my 7th birthday, after getting a Spirograph as a birthday present...

Seriesly, I think that he’ll have all the answers in another 3 years

Mark


42 posted on 11/14/2007 12:02:59 PM PST by MarkL (Listen, Strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government)
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To: Badeye

what does she look like?


43 posted on 11/14/2007 12:03:13 PM PST by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?" "Because it's judgment that defeats us.")
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To: Hardastarboard

thailand door mat


44 posted on 11/14/2007 12:03:55 PM PST by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?" "Because it's judgment that defeats us.")
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

‘what does she look like?’

Who cares, he’s a lazy bum.


45 posted on 11/14/2007 12:04:04 PM PST by Badeye (That Karma thing keeps coming around, eh Sally? (chuckle))
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To: snarks_when_bored

I figured this was a thread on the political conspiracy theories of Sean Penn.


46 posted on 11/14/2007 12:04:41 PM PST by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: mvpel

“Lisi’s inspiration lies in the most elegant and intricate shape known to mathematics, called E8 - a complex, eight-dimensional mathematical pattern with 248 points first found in 1887, but only fully understood by mathematicians this year after workings, that, if written out in tiny print, would cover an area the size of Manhattan.”

Simple? Beautifull maybe but simple, I think not.


47 posted on 11/14/2007 12:05:22 PM PST by dblshot
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To: snarks_when_bored
My own personal theory of "everything" is a tad more concise.

"It's all about the boobies"


48 posted on 11/14/2007 12:05:37 PM PST by Skip Ripley
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To: snarks_when_bored

49 posted on 11/14/2007 12:05:59 PM PST by SlowBoat407 (Free commerce is the only just way to redistribute wealth.)
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To: Dr.Deth
The Journal of Irreproducible Results had an article on how to make any random data points “make sense” by just selecting the right type of graphing paper, whether that is circular, logarithmic, etc.
50 posted on 11/14/2007 12:06:45 PM PST by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: snarks_when_bored

Like all the other formulas in the universe, God made this one “simple” as well.

PI, e=mc^2, f=ma, the speed vs orbit ratio of a planetary object, on and on.


51 posted on 11/14/2007 12:07:33 PM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: snarks_when_bored

I thought this was going to be an Onion story.


52 posted on 11/14/2007 12:08:03 PM PST by gracesdad
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To: Gideon7

LOL dude, that’s just about the way it really works.


53 posted on 11/14/2007 12:08:32 PM PST by Paladin2 (We don't fix the problem, we fix the blame!)
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To: MarkL

He’d better hurry. The Mayan calendar runs out soon.

And we are 10 years past due for the oceans to die according to Ted Danson.


54 posted on 11/14/2007 12:08:45 PM PST by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: snarks_when_bored
"Being poor sucks,

This guy IS freaking deep, man.

55 posted on 11/14/2007 12:09:04 PM PST by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: Badeye

“It’s hard to figure out the secrets of the universe when you’re trying to figure out where you and your girlfriend are going to sleep next month.”’

It sounds like “Good Will Hunting” hasn’t figured out the secret of gainful employment. And given the state of science these days, their being impressed with his theory impresses me not.


56 posted on 11/14/2007 12:09:24 PM PST by Spok
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To: WoofDog123

I’m stuned.


57 posted on 11/14/2007 12:09:45 PM PST by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: snarks_when_bored

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5j4McFzies

The ultimate surfer dude.


58 posted on 11/14/2007 12:10:04 PM PST by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: WoofDog123

Can’t swing a dead cat in my area wo/ hitting a PhD. They presumably
know their stuff too but hardly going to change the world.

Except when “findings” are released for public consumption.
That is when the application of HLMencken famous line comes into
play: No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence
of the American public.”

And this is certainly how we keep our budgets flowing: if not
able to dazzle w/ brilliance, then baffle w/ bullshit. AND ALWAYS
ALWAYS talk down to the non-scientist audience.

IOW, don;t believe everything you read esp when it appears in a Limey
newspaper and quotes raving Canadians.

God! I love being a scientist!

MV


59 posted on 11/14/2007 12:10:35 PM PST by madvlad (A republican at age 20 has no heart; a democrat at age 50 has no brain. Brains are better.)
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To: snarks_when_bored

Point 233 of the E8 - Where I parked my car dude!


60 posted on 11/14/2007 12:10:49 PM PST by TC Rider (The United States Constitution ? 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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