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Terrill crafting HB 1804 spinoff
Tulsa World ^ | November 26, 2007 | Mick Hinton, World Capitol Bureau

Posted on 11/28/2007 1:18:39 PM PST by flattorney

OKLAHOMA CITY -- Energized by his success in winning passage of a tough immigration law that took effect this year, state Rep. Randy Terrill is eying more reforms. Terrill, R-Moore, said he was preparing legislation for consideration next session. "I'm calling this bill the 'Son of 1804,' " said Terrill, the House author of House Bill 1804, the sweeping immigration reform measure passed last session.

The centerpiece of Terrill's new legislation will be making English the official language of Oklahoma, he said, although he is considering other proposals. Terrill said he would like to find a way to stop the state from issuing birth certificates to the Oklahoma-born children of illegal immigrants. Instead, he said, the state could acknowledge the birth by sending a notice to the country where the parents are citizens.

David Blatt, the public policy director for the Community Action Project of Tulsa County, said this would fly in the face of federal law. Terrill acknowledged that the U.S. Supreme Court has so far acknowledged children born to illegal residents to be U.S. citizens at birth. Perhaps the state could challenge this, he said. "I am actively evaluating whether to include something in the legislation, but there hasn't been any decision made," he said. Blatt said Oklahoma passed "a fairly sweeping bill, and everyone is trying to figure out what the impact and unintended consequences of 1804 are." "I think it would make sense to not go further in sending out messages that might be seen as antagonistic to the Hispanic community," he said.

Regarding the proposal to make English the official language, Terrill said he would like to see an end to such practices as multilingual driver licensing. Terrill said his bill would make an exception for American Indian languages because of Oklahoma's unique political history with its dozens of tribes. As for those who knowingly support illegal residents, he said he would like to provide for seizures of property, such as vehicles or houses, much as the law allows in drug cases. This would apply to employers who do such things as transport day workers who they know are in the country illegally to work sites and would include landlords who knowingly rent to illegal residents.

Blatt said church groups and nonprofit organizations have asserted that they will continue to support their mission of protecting the health and public safety of all people. "If you try to add more penalties to harboring, I would hope there would be resistance" from the Legislature, he said. Questions have been raised as to whether a person transporting an illegal alien to a job could be subject to a charge of harboring under current legislation. Terrill said that might be possible, although the intended target of the legislation was employers instead of family members or others who take an illegal immigrant to work.

Another proposal of Terrill's would compel schools to accurately report how many of their students are in this country illegally. Terrill said that taxpayers deserve to know how much this is costing. Blatt said that would violate a Supreme Court ruling that schools must provide an education to all children. "This would get very close to infringing upon the right of all children to an education," he said. Terrill said the intent would not be to identify any illegal students by name, but only to get aggregate figures.

Terrill said he had not heard any complaints from supporters of HB 1804. He said those opposing his new legislation also fought HB 1804.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: immigrantlist; nationalfocus; oklahoma
- - After the news article are significant readers feedback comments.

Terrill's new immigration bill proposals:
1) Make English the official language of Oklahoma, with exceptions for American Indian languages.
2) Provide state funding to train law enforcement officers in federal immigration law enforcement.
3) Authorize law enforcement agencies to seize assets such as vehicles and property used to harbor or transport illegal immigrants.
4) Require school districts to give more accurate figures on the undocumented students who are in public schools.

In late October the 2007 Florida Immigration Reform Legislative Summit was held in which members of FlAttorney's law firm attended. One of the speakers at the Summit was the Director of Immigration Reform for Oklahoma Now whose organization was instrumental in the passage of HB 1804 - The Oklahoma Taxpayer and Citizen Protection Act of 2007 ("OTCPA").

Posted for FlAttorney by TAB

1 posted on 11/28/2007 1:18:39 PM PST by flattorney
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To: flattorney
A Democrat Legislature passed them and a Democrat governor signed them into law. In Oklahoma of all places!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

2 posted on 11/28/2007 1:21:15 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: flattorney

I like this bill...esp the part where business/transporters of illegals could lose their property.

I think this part would never be overturned even in the most liberal of courts since it deals w citizens, and not illegals, directly.


3 posted on 11/28/2007 1:22:49 PM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (www.FantasyCollegeBlitz.com)
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To: flattorney
I must admit that I have mixed feelings about the bill recently passed in Oklahoma. (I live in Oklahoma.) I know two hard working people who are looking at being deported. They both have children here and have been here for over 15 years. I had no idea they had overstayed their visa's.

I can't help but have compassion for them and wish there was a way for them to stay in Oklahoma. However, I know all the arguments against it.

4 posted on 11/28/2007 1:28:26 PM PST by yellowdoghunter (John 3:16.)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

This HB 1804 jr sounds a bit Draconian...a tough bill for sure...to equate harboring illegals with drug smuggling with it’s seizure penalties is quite a stretch..Has it been that long since the Underground Railroad days of the 1860s ?

Suppose someone were to ser up a Draconian meter, where would this House bill be on the Drac scale?...0 to 10...not harsh at all to over the top...


5 posted on 11/28/2007 1:38:51 PM PST by billmor
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To: yellowdoghunter

Then maybe they can go back, get re-evaluated, vetted to ensure that broke no laws, and get a some type of jumpstart mechanism in coming back legally.


6 posted on 11/28/2007 1:39:36 PM PST by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?" "Because it's judgment that defeats us.")
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To: billmor

oops...ser = set sorry


7 posted on 11/28/2007 1:39:58 PM PST by billmor
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

I know their employers have hired attorney’s for them and are doing all they can to keep them here. I pray it works out for them in the best possible manner.


8 posted on 11/28/2007 1:51:13 PM PST by yellowdoghunter (John 3:16.)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; KlueLass; ...
The centerpiece of Terrill's new legislation will be making English the official language of Oklahoma, he said, although he is considering other proposals. Terrill said he would like to find a way to stop the state from issuing birth certificates to the Oklahoma-born children of illegal immigrants. Instead, he said, the state could acknowledge the birth by sending a notice to the country where the parents are citizens.

9 posted on 11/29/2007 12:14:54 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Tuesday, November 27, 2007___________________https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: yellowdoghunter

In many, MANY cases, the illegals are MUCH harder workers and better employees than the Babied Americans who will replace them.

Unfortunately, THAT IS NOT THE POINT...

This a violation of U.S. Laws that already exist, and goes directly to the soviergnty of this nation. If we need the workers, then by all means, let them in.

LEGALLY, and in a DOCUMENTED,CONTROLLED WAY...


10 posted on 11/29/2007 12:36:37 AM PST by tcrlaf (You can lead a Liberal to LOGIC, but you can't make it THINK)
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