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(Rasmussen) Daily Presidential Tracking Poll (12-4) [Now TIED]
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Posted on 12/04/2007 8:13:17 AM PST by Petronski

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To: Tennessean4Bush
I think the Huckster will be a shooting star. He is too vulnerable on hot-button issues for conservatives: immigration and taxes.

Very solid point. If Huck causes everyone's lights to come on regarding Rooty those very same voters will start to see the light about Mike. Once the voters know the issues there will be no more tricking them with campaign flip-flops. And THAT will take them to the consistent candidates.

61 posted on 12/04/2007 9:04:42 AM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: RockinRight
But because Huck is likable, Fred (and Mitt and Rudy at this point) can not make it seem like a negative. Any attack ad must be seen more as a comparative than an attack ad. People love the "underdog", and right now (I honestly don't know if it will last) Huckabee is the come-from-behind guy. He is likable, and he is convincing.

What I find ironic is that I seem to remember two months ago, two of arguably the best politicians of the modern era, Bill Clinton, and Newt Gingrich, both predicted that he would be the eventual nominee. Regardless of whether we like their politics or not, we must acknowledge they are both great politicians. What did they know that we didn't. We all laughed at them then, now we are scratching our heads. I am going to try and find that article.

62 posted on 12/04/2007 9:05:42 AM PST by codercpc
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To: sitetest

See my post 61. I have the same conclusion.


63 posted on 12/04/2007 9:06:55 AM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: codercpc
Bill Clinton, and Newt Gingrich, both predicted that he would be the eventual nominee. Regardless of whether we like their politics or not, we must acknowledge they are both great politicians. What did they know that we didn't. We all laughed at them then, now we are scratching our heads. I am going to try and find that article.

*Grabbing my tinfoil hat* that sounds very suspicious...like someone behind the scenes is up to it...

64 posted on 12/04/2007 9:07:40 AM PST by RockinRight (Huck supporters OPEN YOUR EYES. Socialism isn't compatible with social conservatism in the long run.)
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To: Pittsburgher

Bingo.


65 posted on 12/04/2007 9:09:18 AM PST by ejonesie22 (In America all people have a right to be wrong, some just exercise it a bit much...)
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To: Gipper08
Mike Huckabee is Jimmy Carter!

You are absolutely right about that.

66 posted on 12/04/2007 9:09:19 AM PST by Rider on the Rain
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To: TitansAFC
*** Fox News will quickly be out with a poll showing Rudy with double anyone else’s support. ****

Fox News is making me sick with their overt pro Rooty crap. They're latest ploy of riding around with Rooty while filming is nothing but a free Campaign Commercial.

When I saw a bit of the promo on Sunday I got so steamed I felt like grabbing my 9mm and 'doing an Elvis' on my TV. Which I still may do if they keep it up, but with a hammer ;-)

67 posted on 12/04/2007 9:12:26 AM PST by Condor51 (Rudy has more baggage than Samsonite. But that's okay, the NYPD carries it. /s)
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To: Pittsburgher
Wrong - Huck is a trumped-up MSM “distraction of the month”. Fred’s patience will pay off big-time, as Rudy, Mitt, and Huck slowly self-destruct.

I agree that Huckabee is the distraction of the month. The media is setting him up for a fall just like they did Thompson. They hype a candidate without the appeal, campaign organization, money, etc. into an unnaturally high position in the polls, and then they turn on the guy and make him drop like a rock. I'm sure the MSM board rooms are full of laughter after they successfully pull this stunt off the way they did with Thompson. Now Huckabee is the new rube. Meanwhile, Rudy Giuliani and Mitt Romney remain the only two candidates with the campaign organization, appeal, ability, and cash to make it to the primary election and then the general election. I'm pulling for the pro-life, fiscally conservative, business leader candidate and opposing the corrupt, serial adulterer, pro-radical gay agenda, pro-abortion, pro-illegal alien liberal lawyer candidate whose nomination would destroy the GOP and give the Democrats decades of unopposed power in all three branches of government.

68 posted on 12/04/2007 9:12:28 AM PST by Spiff ("Mike Huckabee raised more taxes in 10 years in office than Bill Clinton did in his 12 years.")
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To: RockinRight

Found it - Bill Clinton, Gingrich agree on Huckabee as GOP dark horse -

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1904542/posts

From 9/30/07, we all laughed. Scary isn’t it?


69 posted on 12/04/2007 9:12:30 AM PST by codercpc
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To: Beagle8U
I think Iowa could be Mitt’s Waterloo. If Huck beats him after spending a tenth the money, well that would be a colossal failure for the great business man.

Ironic that his “strength” so well touted amongst many on these very pages could be his undoing. How can he sell himself as a fiscal conservative with a successful business baclkgroud if he is willing to lose that kind of money on a fruitless effort.

70 posted on 12/04/2007 9:13:21 AM PST by ejonesie22 (In America all people have a right to be wrong, some just exercise it a bit much...)
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To: Petronski

“Tryst Fund Tales”——heheh——love it. Rooty and his girlfriend cavorting on the taxpayers’ dime came back to bite him bigtime.

His loser debate performance is another factor——he can’t seem to fathom heartland voters could care less about his NYC mayoralty——you can’t govern a country with a NYC guidebook.

Another huge disqualifier is Rooty’s irrationality. He is saturating our political system with the irrational delusions seen in those Mideast sinkholes. He’s shown a complete inability to govern a democracy.

Candidates like Rooty who cannot see the US presidency, and its citizens, through the prism of the red, white, and blue are summarily kicked out of politics.


71 posted on 12/04/2007 9:18:08 AM PST by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns or the name of my hairdresser.)
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To: ejonesie22
When he loses Iowa and Michigan he is toast for the nomination and must decide how much more cash he is willing to waste.
72 posted on 12/04/2007 9:19:28 AM PST by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Ingtar

Thompson Huckabee in either order would be fine with me.


73 posted on 12/04/2007 9:20:16 AM PST by N3WBI3 (Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you. -- Londo Mollari)
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To: Petronski
It is just AWESOME to see Rudy to continue to drop!!

As we have said all along, the more that everyone gets to know a liberal like Rudy and his liberal buddies--the more he will drop.

74 posted on 12/04/2007 9:22:00 AM PST by stockstrader (We need a conservative who will ENERGIZE the Party, not a liberal who will DEMORALIZE it!)
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To: N3WBI3

There is a BIG difference between those two. I could sooner see Rudy and Huck on the same ticket.


75 posted on 12/04/2007 9:22:23 AM PST by RockinRight (Huck supporters OPEN YOUR EYES. Socialism isn't compatible with social conservatism in the long run.)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

This is what I am hoping as well. Fred is well positioned to be there when Huckleberry squishes.


76 posted on 12/04/2007 9:22:48 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: PreciousLiberty
go to Fred08.com and check out his latest commercial. It destroys Mitt, Rudy and Huckabee with their own words. It has video of Rudy coming out for Mario Cuomo over Pataki and calling the NRA extreme as those on the left who are for gun control. It shows Mitt from the 90’s and 2003 supporting Roe vs. Wade and it shows a chunky Huck coming out for any tax the Arkansas Legislature will send him.
77 posted on 12/04/2007 9:23:58 AM PST by normy (Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.)
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To: LibLieSlayer

“huckleberry lost 90% of the Republicans with his CLOSE GITMO promise.”

You think so? So if Huckabee is sincere about closing Guantanamo, you’ll vote for Hillary in 08? This I’ve gotta see.

Huckabee is a fantastic politician (and without the benefit of millions of dollars for polling to see what he “should” be saying.) The real issue regarding Gitmo is not whether we detain at Gitmo or not, but whether he means that we should return to the Clinton-era policy of criminalizing terrorism, which was a disaster.

Until someone asks him that (and he WILL tell us if he’s asked) all the “close Gitmo” comment does is carve out more of the center’s votes for himself. And even some of Hillary’s if she tries to straddle the fence on the issue when she’s asked (which is probably a given....has she been asked?)


78 posted on 12/04/2007 9:26:27 AM PST by Norseman
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To: ejonesie22

Wow! This shows how fast things can change. The droning Rudy lead is now history, Mitt’s waning, and the door is open. People are beginning to take a look at the other candidates and we are off and running. There is nothing but opportunity in these numbers.

Go Fred!


79 posted on 12/04/2007 9:28:20 AM PST by Route66 (America's Main Street - - - Fred D. Thompson / Consistent Conservative...The One with Gravitas)
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To: Reagan Man

Rudy’s dropped from 30% to 18%.

Fred’s dropped from 27% to 14%.

I hope you are right that Rudy is on life support, and Fred is biding his time. But you can’t make that assumption based on the numbers.

The most encouraging thing is that Rudy seems to have downward momentum, while Fred has stopped the slide.

But Huckabee has strong upward momentum, and we are EXPECTING that to stop. There’s no reason why we should expect Rudy to keep falling, or Fred to start moving upward, or Huckabee to stop rising.

One thing is clear — it’s in the hands of each candidate now. Nobody has a clear margin, so every one of the 5 leading candidates holds their future. Whichever one can sell themselves to the supporters of the other candidates can come out on top.


80 posted on 12/04/2007 9:29:36 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT (The Swiss Ninja.)
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