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Republican Presidential Candidate Debate #12 – Johnston, Iowa 12/12/07 - Official Discussion Thread

Posted on 12/12/2007 9:56:01 AM PST by CounterCounterCulture

Republican Presidential Candidate Debate #12 – Johnston, Iowa 12/12/07 - Official Discussion Thread

Live at 2PM EST on Iowa Public Television, CNN, C-SPAN3, Fox News Channel, C-SPAN Radio, and Fox News Radio

Candidates participating:

Live streaming at desmoinesregister.com


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: 2008; alankeyes; cnn; debate; debate2007; duncanhunter; elections2008; foxnews; fredthompson; giuliani; gopdebate; gopdebates; huckabee; hunter; ia2008; iowa; johnmccain; johnston; keyes; mccain; mikehuckabee; mittromney; paul; presidentialdebate; republican; republicandebate; romney; ronpaul; rudygiuliani; tancredo; thompson; tomtancredo
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1 posted on 12/12/2007 9:56:02 AM PST by CounterCounterCulture
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To: Jim Robinson; Admin Moderator; Sidebar Moderator

FYI


2 posted on 12/12/2007 9:56:54 AM PST by CounterCounterCulture (Duncan Hunter / Alan Keyes '08 ... Jeanne Assam for Homeland Security)
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To: jmyrlefuller

ping


3 posted on 12/12/2007 9:58:31 AM PST by CounterCounterCulture (Duncan Hunter / Alan Keyes '08 ... Jeanne Assam for Homeland Security)
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To: CounterCounterCulture
I love Alan Keyes, but he should go away.
4 posted on 12/12/2007 10:00:41 AM PST by Carry_Okie (Duncan Hunter for President)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

I hope I can be here for the debate... do you know if the debate will be replayed another time and on what station?


5 posted on 12/12/2007 10:01:13 AM PST by AmericanMade1776
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Thank you much... ought to be interesting to see whether or not the GOP panders to the Iowa caucus goers.

And we have Alan Keyes making his first big appearance.

Here’s the live link from C-SPAN 3:
http://www.c-span.org/watch/cs_cspan3_wm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS3


6 posted on 12/12/2007 10:01:27 AM PST by jmyrlefuller (The Associated Press: The most dangerous news organization in America.[TM])
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To: Carry_Okie

I like Alan Keyes, and I hope he smites Huckleberry.


7 posted on 12/12/2007 10:01:49 AM PST by AmericanMade1776
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What are the odds of a Huckabee vs. Romney Mormon question? :-}


8 posted on 12/12/2007 10:03:17 AM PST by CounterCounterCulture (Duncan Hunter / Alan Keyes '08 ... Jeanne Assam for Homeland Security)
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To: AmericanMade1776

Replay on C-SPAN 2 at 9:30 PM ET.


9 posted on 12/12/2007 10:04:30 AM PST by jmyrlefuller (The Associated Press: The most dangerous news organization in America.[TM])
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To: CounterCounterCulture

I’d put it at 90%.


10 posted on 12/12/2007 10:04:50 AM PST by jmyrlefuller (The Associated Press: The most dangerous news organization in America.[TM])
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Sweet, I’ll be watching this.


11 posted on 12/12/2007 10:05:33 AM PST by wastedyears (One Marine vs. 550 consultants. Sounds like good odds to me.)
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To: AmericanMade1776

I’m not sure. I’ll be away from a TV and computer while the debate runs live, so I hope to catch it later today. C-SPAN2 shows a 9pm ET rerun, but I don’t get C-SPAN2 anymore :-(


12 posted on 12/12/2007 10:06:13 AM PST by CounterCounterCulture (Duncan Hunter / Alan Keyes '08 ... Jeanne Assam for Homeland Security)
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To: jmyrlefuller

thank you.. I will mark that down..thank you.


13 posted on 12/12/2007 10:06:14 AM PST by AmericanMade1776
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mark


14 posted on 12/12/2007 10:13:49 AM PST by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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placemark


15 posted on 12/12/2007 10:14:10 AM PST by TornadoAlley3 ( An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping that it will eat him last..)
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All right... see y’all later. Keep the thread hummin’ ;-)


16 posted on 12/12/2007 10:14:41 AM PST by CounterCounterCulture (Duncan Hunter / Alan Keyes '08 ... Jeanne Assam for Homeland Security)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Will do, and thank you for posting the thread.


17 posted on 12/12/2007 10:15:26 AM PST by jmyrlefuller (The Associated Press: The most dangerous news organization in America.[TM])
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Too many candidates: You should have to poll 5% somewhere or have raised a million by this point to still be in the game. By my count that leaves 6 candidates.


18 posted on 12/12/2007 10:16:25 AM PST by NeoCaveman (Fred On, apply directly to the WhiteHouse)
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To: NeoCaveman

I thought they dis-invited some of the people that are in the debate.


19 posted on 12/12/2007 10:20:23 AM PST by jmyrlefuller (The Associated Press: The most dangerous news organization in America.[TM])
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To: jmyrlefuller

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20 posted on 12/12/2007 10:22:38 AM PST by SweetCaroline (***Your own healing is the Greatest Message of Hope to others!***)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

It’s on in the middle of the afternoon? Is this the housewives debate? (No offense to housewives . . . )


21 posted on 12/12/2007 10:22:46 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia (CNN: Full of plants from the DNC Plant-ation.)
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Why is Alan Keyes in the debate, to waste time for the real candidates?
22 posted on 12/12/2007 10:23:30 AM PST by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: AmericanMade1776
I like Alan Keyes, and I hope he smites Huckleberry.

AK is completely unqualified to be CIC, IMHO, and flamed himself beneath credibility with his "massah Bush" comments in 2000

. He should know better than to dilute an already diluted conservative contingent.

23 posted on 12/12/2007 10:23:58 AM PST by Carry_Okie (Duncan Hunter for President)
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To: NeoCaveman

Agree with you on too many candidates. Nine is beyond reason for any kind of serious debate forum.


24 posted on 12/12/2007 10:24:12 AM PST by newzjunkey (Huckabee, Rudy, Romney: 3 Red herrings, 3 E-Z pickings for Dems in '08.)
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To: jveritas
Why is Alan Keyes in the debate? Frank Luntz on with the Friends said he will have his little audience meters going live for us to see.
25 posted on 12/12/2007 10:27:05 AM PST by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Miss Didi

In political terms Alan Keyes is a joke.


26 posted on 12/12/2007 10:31:20 AM PST by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Here’s hoping that they give Duncan Hunter more than 1/4 the time they give Rudy or Romney.


27 posted on 12/12/2007 10:32:25 AM PST by Antoninus (Republicans who support Rudy owe Bill Clinton an apology.)
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To: Antoninus

This is Hunter’s last chance to break out. He has to do something.


28 posted on 12/12/2007 10:34:55 AM PST by txflake (Yes there were WMDs)
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To: Carry_Okie

I agree; the vanity candidates need to step aside.


29 posted on 12/12/2007 10:35:59 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Fred Thompson)
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To: txflake

Love Duncan Hunter. He is my choice. He needs to get more air time. I’m tired of the big 3 getting all the time. Huckabee is a smooth talker, not a real conservative. Go Hunter.


30 posted on 12/12/2007 10:39:43 AM PST by nurse-rn
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To: nurse-rn

Romney is smooth. Huckabee is a little weasel whose only strong point is abortion and who will talk his way into a corner if left to his own defenses, but by golly, those “burn the abortionists and their supporters at the stake” types just don’t care. He’s basically the exact same candidate as Sam Brownback.


31 posted on 12/12/2007 10:42:51 AM PST by jmyrlefuller (The Associated Press: The most dangerous news organization in America.[TM])
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To: AmericanMade1776

Maybe Keyes should ask Hucklebee if he considers Catholics to be Christians.


32 posted on 12/12/2007 10:45:15 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Initial list of stream links. These may only take you to the website at this time. Stream may not be active until near the start time.

Des Moine Register debate link

CNN Streaming Live

FoxNews Live Stream

CSPAN 3 link

Iowa Public Television Stream link. IPTV.ORG will also have video and transcript available for downloading after the debate.


33 posted on 12/12/2007 10:50:35 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: jveritas
Who invited him?
34 posted on 12/12/2007 10:52:52 AM PST by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: nurse-rn
Hunter did a good job on The Factor last night. He and Bill debated a moonbat over torture—she was pathetic.
35 posted on 12/12/2007 10:54:12 AM PST by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Miss Didi

May be the organizers of the debate, I am not sure.


36 posted on 12/12/2007 10:55:10 AM PST by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

IPTV streaming link for MS Player

mms://a1735.l2234340442.c22343.n.lm.akamaistream.net/D/1735/22343/v0001/reflector:40442


CSPAN 3 streaming link for MS Player

mms://rx-wes-sea124.rbn.com/farm/pull/tx-rbn-sea54:1259/wmtencoder/cspan/cspan/wmlive/cspan3v.asf


37 posted on 12/12/2007 10:57:45 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: CounterCounterCulture

The only way for Romney to deflate Huckabee: ignore him. Dont go after him at all, stay on the issues and direct criticism to Dems. Surefire way to steal this debate.


38 posted on 12/12/2007 10:57:49 AM PST by Fox_Mulder77
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Thanks for the thread.


39 posted on 12/12/2007 10:58:06 AM PST by Chuck54 (When you throw dirt you're losing ground.)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Though I hope that all the candidates would be given equal time, I doubt it. It’ll be the same ol’ RINO debate between Roodie, Slick Willard, Huckabee, and McCain-—with RuPaul as the sideshow freak. Meanwhile, the true Republicans like Duncan Hunter, Duncan Hunter and Tancredo will be shoved to the side. Alan Keyes will be lucky if he gets 2 questions total.


40 posted on 12/12/2007 10:58:53 AM PST by dit_xi (Duncan Hunter: No nose holding necessary come election day. Right on every issue, right every time)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

6 in 10 Iowans are still undecided


41 posted on 12/12/2007 11:01:41 AM PST by dit_xi (Duncan Hunter: No nose holding necessary come election day. Right on every issue, right every time)
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To: dit_xi

Iraq won’t be discussed in much details


42 posted on 12/12/2007 11:02:07 AM PST by dit_xi (Duncan Hunter: No nose holding necessary come election day. Right on every issue, right every time)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Let the two minutes of hate begin against Huckabee.


43 posted on 12/12/2007 11:02:20 AM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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This is the first time since summer the Republicans have come together... in Iowa... who cares? It’s the president, not the governor of Iowa...

...it’s going to be a panderfest.


44 posted on 12/12/2007 11:02:33 AM PST by jmyrlefuller (The Associated Press: The most dangerous news organization in America.[TM])
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To: dit_xi

They put Romney and Huck next to each other. lol


45 posted on 12/12/2007 11:02:46 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Thank you so much for making all previous debates accessible to us.

Let’s get the questions going!


46 posted on 12/12/2007 11:03:09 AM PST by yorkie ( For God so loved the world........................ that He didn't send a committee.)
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To: jmyrlefuller

Who is this woman???? I never saw her before and quite frankly her voice bothers me. lol.


47 posted on 12/12/2007 11:03:24 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: CounterCounterCulture

I still have no clue who I am going to vote for, Huckabee seems like a fiscal and military RINO, and the other front runners seem weak and too polished to be real.


48 posted on 12/12/2007 11:03:42 AM PST by LukeL
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To: Dane

“Let the two minutes of hate begin against Huckabee.”

thats what huckabee wants


49 posted on 12/12/2007 11:04:04 AM PST by Fox_Mulder77
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To: yorkie

She asked a stupid question already. Guiliani up for answering. He is answering by pandering!!! Yeah!!!


50 posted on 12/12/2007 11:04:11 AM PST by napscoordinator
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