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'The Clear Conservative Choice: Hands Down!' Bus Tour Schedule (Fred Thompson in Iowa)
Standard Newswire ^ | December 16, 2007 | Darrel Ng

Posted on 12/16/2007 10:01:55 PM PST by bd476

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To: Old Teufel Hunden
He seems to be going into overdrive towards the end of this primary season while sitting out the first half. I hope its not too little too late.

You seem to have absorbed the MSM line about Fred. He HAS been campaigning, since the day he announced. Some newspaper claimed he was taking the week off after announcing, and that got the "Fred is lazy" ball rolling. In fact, he went to several events that week, and has been doing so ever since.

One reason Huckabee grabbed so much attention is because the 'religious' voters felt their needs weren't being met by the other top tier candidates, especially when Fred announced that he wasn't a regular churchgoer. Huckabee looked good to them because he's a preacher. I think some of them are beginning to realize that talking about Jesus a lot in your campaign doesn't substitute for being right on other issues such as terrorism, illegal immigration, the economy, etc. His being a Christian won't affect policy in this country, because he's not a dictator. His beliefs may shape his stand on the issues, as it does with the other Republican candidates, but none can dictate policy based on their beliefs.

41 posted on 12/17/2007 9:58:45 AM PST by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ; JenB

Hmmm Wednesday morning, ouch. Got to go though, I mean that is only a block from where I work.


42 posted on 12/17/2007 12:17:15 PM PST by TalonDJ
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To: SuziQ
Right on Suzy. I listened to a sermon on global warming a couple months back. And then a couple weeks ago we walked out on one about disarmament and bringing peace on earth. Now we are changing churches. Just being a church goer does not say much.
43 posted on 12/17/2007 12:21:07 PM PST by TalonDJ
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To: SuziQ

“You seem to have absorbed the MSM line about Fred. He HAS been campaigning, since the day he announced.”

No, I’m talking about him getting in so late. The peak of his popularity was around July 4th. If he would have announced shortly after that, he could have capitalized on it. Instead, waiting until after labor day fizzled the excitement about him. He also could have participated in more debates and been sharper sooner. Its like a football player not playing for a while. He may be in great shape, but he’s not in game shape. Well, Fred wasn’t in game shape when it came to campaigning and debating. He did not impress at his earliest debates and this coming from one of his supporters. He has just rounded into form IMHO and I fear it may be too late. I hope not. If he can get into third place in Iowa with about 15% or more, I think that would be great. He could slingshot into New Hampshire. If he could get second place there, I think it would set him up well to take South Carolina. At least thats the game plan I’m looking at. If he could knock Huckabee out of the race there, he could set himself up as the conservative alternative to fast fading Rudy.


44 posted on 12/17/2007 12:54:24 PM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: xjcsa
That is a perfectly rational answer. The globe is warming, what is in dispute is the cause. As FDT said in his Harvey article, the other planets are warming as well.

If we can reduce CO2 WITHOUT harming the economy (operative idea there) it would be a way to help a little and offset any possible impact we may have down the road. Again anything we can do that won't impact our lifestyle and economy.

Now if he was to support Gore’s toss out the whole culture to save a seal crap...

45 posted on 12/17/2007 1:02:24 PM PST by ejonesie22 (In America all people have a right to be wrong, some just exercise it a bit much...)
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To: xjcsa

How is it looking for Fred in Iowa? I hope you do come on over to his team.


46 posted on 12/17/2007 1:15:19 PM PST by no dems (FRED THOMPSON: The only Conservative running who can beat Hillary or Obama.)
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To: TalonDJ
I mean that is only a block from where I work.

DANG! I wish he'd come to MA anywhere close to me. If he comes at all, it will likely be in Boston,and frankly, I don't want to have to fool with Boston traffic. Our primary is on Feb. 5th, and negotiating Boston parking is bad enough when the streets are clear, but it's AWFUL when there is snow everywhere!!

Clare and I went into Cambridge the other night for a concert, and found out there was NO parking at or near the Church. We arrived at 7:15, just SURE we'd be there early for the 8pm concert. We orbited the Church for 35 minutes hoping someone would leave, since there were a limited number of one and two hour parking spot, and the ones that didn't have cars in them were 3' high in snow. Most of the parking was by Permit Only, and Cambridge WILL tow you, and the public parking areas were also full, so we ended up having to park 8 blocks away, in the parking garage of a hotel downtown. Thankfully, it was not THAT cold, or that 20 min. walk would have seemed so NOT worth it. But the concert was great, even though we missed the first third of it.

47 posted on 12/17/2007 1:43:46 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: ejonesie22
The globe is warming, what is in dispute is the cause.

There's significant doubt that it's warming, and the idea that CO2 is the cause is just silly.

If we can reduce CO2 WITHOUT harming the economy (operative idea there) it would be a way to help a little and offset any possible impact we may have down the road.

Well, we can't, and there's no reason to. The whole thing is a hoax, and I completely reject the idiotic premise. Human-generated CO2 has zero effect on climate.

Again anything we can do that won't impact our lifestyle and economy.

No such thing. Anything we do will impact our lifestyle and economy, otherwise it wouldn't be "doing" anything.

48 posted on 12/17/2007 2:41:23 PM PST by xjcsa (Defenseless enemies are fun.)
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To: xjcsa
Actually there is global warming. There is also Mars Warming, Jupiter Warming and it appears Pluto Warming as well. The increase in Solar output seems to be the culprit, not SUV and such. Ironically the latest reports look to show some drop in temps, so this cycle maybe easing.

The effect of man and CO2 output is the “debate” that catches the attention though so it is lumped together. It appears that this is a natural cycle despite what Al Gore and the UN say. So I actually agree with you on that.

However saying we should reduce CO2 in ways that in the end increase efficiency without really impacting things cost wise in the long run is a good position to hold for a politician of any stripe. No where to you see Thompson say he wants to “Al Gore” us. But since it will reduce dependence on oil and foster some research into other means of power, if we can take a little advantage of the hoopla, all the better. And yes, it can actually cost less if done right. Again, not the “Al Gore/UN shut it all down NOW” way..

Anyways, the internal combustion engine has gotten boring, I have turbo charged it, super charged it and everything in between (should be a hint that I am not an enviro wacko, I am a carbon footprint, size 10 million)

I want the Tesla Roadster to come out in a more affordable form...

49 posted on 12/17/2007 3:49:32 PM PST by ejonesie22 (In America all people have a right to be wrong, some just exercise it a bit much...)
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To: ejonesie22
Actually there is global warming.

Repeating it doesn't make it true.

There is also Mars Warming, Jupiter Warming and it appears Pluto Warming as well. The increase in Solar output seems to be the culprit, not SUV and such.

Yes, the sun is clearly behind our climate.

Ironically the latest reports look to show some drop in temps, so this cycle maybe easing.

That - along with NASA's recent corrections of the USA's historical record - is why I said there's doubt about whether warming has happened. I think most temperature change has been within the margin of error of our measurement techniques.

However saying we should reduce CO2 in ways that in the end increase efficiency without really impacting things cost wise in the long run is a good position to hold for a politician of any stripe.

That doesn't make it true. And I'm interested to see what would happen if a candidate would actually challenge the premise, rather than pandering to the ecotards.

No where to you see Thompson say he wants to “Al Gore” us.

True, and good. But the same is true of Romney (though not of Huckabee, McCain, or Giuliani).

But since it will reduce dependence on oil and foster some research into other means of power, if we can take a little advantage of the hoopla, all the better.

Not the government's job, and I'd rather fight the hoopla, since the end result of the hoopla will be disastrous if it's not challenged and defeated.

And yes, it can actually cost less if done right.

If that were true, the free market would already be doing it.

Again, not the “Al Gore/UN shut it all down NOW” way..

Conceding the premise and then fighting for scraps (or "moderation") is always a losing strategy, at least long-term.

Anyways, the internal combustion engine has gotten boring, I have turbo charged it, super charged it and everything in between (should be a hint that I am not an enviro wacko, I am a carbon footprint, size 10 million)

I want the Tesla Roadster to come out in a more affordable form...

I try to increase my "carbon footprint" whenever and however I can as well. And the Tesla Roadster looks very cool.

Anyway, you should definitely see this film. It's extraordinarily well-done, entertaining (but sober), and interesting.

50 posted on 12/17/2007 4:54:24 PM PST by xjcsa (Defenseless enemies are fun.)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

I don’t think Fred got in too late. He had professional obligations that he needed to complete, and entered the race after those were met. His entering time frame was similar to those of previous years. It just seemed so late because everyone else seemed to have jumped in as soon as the 2006 elections had ended! Yeah, there was a lot of buzz about him in the summer, and some of that cooled, but remember, MOST folks, even MOST Republican primary voters haven’t decided on a candidate. Having Fred around and about in those last couple of weeks before the Iowa Caucus vote will put him front and center in their minds, and as those who jumped for Huckabee realize what a nanny-stater he is, I think they’ll give Fred another look.


51 posted on 12/17/2007 7:48:43 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ

Fred will be on The Laura Ingraham Show during the second hour tomorrow morning, Tuesday. Laura’s show runs from
9:00-12:00AM Eastern. GO FRED! :)


52 posted on 12/17/2007 7:52:06 PM PST by seekthetruth
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To: seekthetruth

Thanks for the heads up! I’ll have to find Laura. She used to be on WTKK in the evening, but I’ll check their schedule to see if she’s still on then.


53 posted on 12/17/2007 8:14:46 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ

Hope you can find Laura’s show locally. Perhaps you could ping some folks to let them know about Fred being on her show tomorrow morning. Thanks! :)


54 posted on 12/17/2007 8:18:51 PM PST by seekthetruth
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To: seekthetruth

I just checked and she’s on from 9pm to midnight. It’s a replay of that morning’s broadcast. I’ll have to make myself a note to listen tomorrow night!


55 posted on 12/17/2007 8:26:05 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: xjcsa
I think we are arguing the same thing. I think any warming, and there appears to have been some, is a natural product of the big fireball in the sky, not us. I will disagree with you that it maybe in the margin of error, as there have been warming cycles in the past. Also if Mars etc. is heating up we are too, at least a little. Anyways the result is the same, it ain’t us.

I also mention it was easing if you will look back at my post.

I don’t think Thompson is pandering to the ecotards (like that) I just think he is answering the concerns many have, thanks to those same ecotards. As a matter of fact I think it would be bad form for any politician not to mention it, just to keep the same off his ass. There are enough real issues to deal with so fighting those idiots, it would just muddy the waters more. Toss ‘em a bone, doesn’t mean you will actually do a damn thing about it since it is not our fault.

If we can take advantage of that and get some research dollars into battery tech and better fuel efficiency to get our dependence on the Middle East down, hell I’ll do a smoke free BBQ for earth day. Doesn’t mean I bought the hype, just taken a little advantage. I have seen what advances in the past few years have brought (BMW M5) most of which came from efficiency research.

56 posted on 12/18/2007 6:30:27 AM PST by ejonesie22 (In America all people have a right to be wrong, some just exercise it a bit much...)
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To: ejonesie22; xjcsa

Speak of the devil...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1941154/posts


57 posted on 12/18/2007 6:32:49 AM PST by ejonesie22 (In America all people have a right to be wrong, some just exercise it a bit much...)
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To: ejonesie22

Hope you all heard Fred on Laura’s show just a minute ago! Fred answered ALL of Laura’s questions..RIGHT ON! Laura might just come to her senses and realize that Fred IS THE MAN WE NEED IN THE WHITE HOUSE!


58 posted on 12/18/2007 7:54:09 AM PST by seekthetruth
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To: xjcsa

You are quite right: Anthopogenic global warming is a myth. I too hope that FDT will come out clearly and denounce it as a socialist hoax.


59 posted on 12/22/2007 11:33:13 AM PST by agere_contra (Do not confuse the wealth of nations with the wealth of government - FDT)
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To: Route66

I see quite a few 10am-7pm days. That’s not exactly blistering, especially if yer in 5th place.


60 posted on 12/25/2007 7:43:22 AM PST by Huck (Soylent Green is People.)
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