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BREAKING - Australia Supreme Court just ordered removal of life support against family pleas
Australian news ^ | 12/19/07 | paularish1

Posted on 12/19/2007 5:00:27 AM PST by paulsy

"Paulo Melo, 29, has been in a coma at the Royal Darwin Hospital for two weeks, after severing his spinal cord in a car crash." - read more below: doctor requested, family objected, court granted

(Excerpt) Read more at news.com.au ...


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To: sourcery

So, you don’t mind paying for services you won’t receive? It’s okay to force you to pay for an insurance policy, with the understanding that it will pay for your medical care, and when it comes time for you to collect, you get killed instead. That’s okay with you?


41 posted on 12/19/2007 9:25:04 AM PST by LilAngel (FReeping on a cell phone is like making Christmas dinner in an Easy Bake Oven)
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To: highball
A respirator and feeding tube are hardly all medical means. Food, water and air are pretty basic.
42 posted on 12/19/2007 9:32:52 AM PST by LilAngel (FReeping on a cell phone is like making Christmas dinner in an Easy Bake Oven)
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To: LilAngel

But they are artificial means.

I still cannot believe that God would want my body kept alive by machines, when it would die on its own.

You may disagree. I would not impose my beliefs on you - that is between you and your God.


43 posted on 12/19/2007 9:35:19 AM PST by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: Red Badger

Exactly.

i have to say, that over the past few years I had become rather dissappointed with my native US given how some things have shaped up there for me personally after a divorce, and politically.

But seeing this happen here in Queensland, and the lack of local media coverage, makes me really appreciate home (US). This same thing would NOT happen back home in Austin.

“Where does it say that this man is a “vegetable”?” - yep. And again, why is it even an issue here? Why should a family have to file a lawsuit in a hostile court, in order to keep a murdering doctor from showing such lethal compassion? It’s really sick. I hope the US doesn’t follow suit with similar governments in the future. Mostly though, I hope this person the court has ordered doctors here to kill changes its mind; and I hope the public here (and elsewhere) slows down for long enough to do something about it.


44 posted on 12/19/2007 9:37:10 AM PST by paulsy
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To: paulsy
So what.

It's their country not ours. I think we ought to butt out of their affairs and stop acting like the worlds homeowners association.

45 posted on 12/19/2007 9:38:20 AM PST by dragnet2
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To: LilAngel
So, you don’t mind paying for services you won’t receive? It’s okay to force you to pay for an insurance policy, with the understanding that it will pay for your medical care, and when it comes time for you to collect, you get killed instead. That’s okay with you?

The "policy" in this case explicitly says that I won't be covered whenever, in the estimation of the "insurance company," there's no reasonable chance that any further treatment will produce any beneficial result.

Do I strongly suspect that the "insurance company" opinion might be more motivated by financial concerns than any sincere desire to be helpful? You bet. But that's the deal the citizens of Australia have given themselves. If they don't like it, they should change it.

46 posted on 12/19/2007 9:39:10 AM PST by sourcery (If Hillary is the next President, she may also be the last.)
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To: slowhandluke
Worth repeating:

I think Australia has nationalized health care, and in such cases, he who pays the piper calls the tune.

Which is a major reason not to have nationalized health care.

47 posted on 12/19/2007 9:44:49 AM PST by null and void (Nully, you think of the oddest things. - sweetliberty)
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To: highball

When I lost my right to life in deference to your desire for a right to die, your beliefs were forced on me. There was a time, not very long ago, when the right to life was recognized, and the desire for life was understood. You could forfeit your rights by putting it in writing, but they couldn’t be taken from you on the assumption that you didn’t value your life as most people do.


48 posted on 12/19/2007 9:46:42 AM PST by LilAngel (FReeping on a cell phone is like making Christmas dinner in an Easy Bake Oven)
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To: paulsy; The Spirit Of Allegiance
His family was told earlier this week that life support should be removed after more than 20 specialists agreed he would not recover.

Well that settles it! It's a consensus, it must be right if more than 20 specialist agree. /s

Thanks for the post and the ping

49 posted on 12/19/2007 9:47:34 AM PST by WileyPink ("...I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." John 14:6b)
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To: paulsy

It only took the Australian government 2 weeks to work all the way up the system and decide to kill him?

Small wonder they banned guns...


50 posted on 12/19/2007 9:48:37 AM PST by null and void (Nully, you think of the oddest things. - sweetliberty)
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To: dragnet2
"I think we ought to butt out of their affairs and stop acting like the worlds homeowners association. "

I'm sorry, but watching a court murder someone doesn't settle well no matter where I am witnessing it. Being here makes it all the more real.

51 posted on 12/19/2007 9:50:18 AM PST by paulsy
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To: paulsy

Then feel free to stomp your feet in protest


52 posted on 12/19/2007 9:57:13 AM PST by dragnet2
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To: sourcery

So, he deserves to be murdered, because he lives in a place where it can happen. He didn’t single-handedly prevent this possibility, so he should live with the consequences (or die with them.) We should have the problem because we didn’t change it, but we shouldn’t try to change it, because we should have to have the situation we allowed. Strange circular reasoning you have there.


53 posted on 12/19/2007 9:58:17 AM PST by LilAngel (FReeping on a cell phone is like making Christmas dinner in an Easy Bake Oven)
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To: null and void

There you have it.


54 posted on 12/19/2007 10:02:27 AM PST by LilAngel (FReeping on a cell phone is like making Christmas dinner in an Easy Bake Oven)
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To: sourcery
Refusal to pay for someone else's medical care is not murder. Forcing someone to do so is theft. That's why we conservatives oppose nationalized health care.

Your right to life requires that others don't kill you. It does not require they pay for your cancer treatment, nor that they pay your rent or grocery bills.

I think this is the quote of the day!!

55 posted on 12/19/2007 10:05:18 AM PST by Tamar1973 (Riding the Korean Wave, one BYJ movie at a time! (http://www.byj.co.kr))
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To: LilAngel
So, he deserves to be murdered, because he lives in a place where it can happen. He didn’t single-handedly prevent this possibility, so he should live with the consequences (or die with them.) We should have the problem because we didn’t change it, but we shouldn’t try to change it, because we should have to have the situation we allowed. Strange circular reasoning you have there.

Each individual is fully responsible for himself—even in socialist countries. Just because your government makes things difficult for you is no excuse.

Now, if you want me to criticise the government and politicians of Australia, I'm happy to do that too: Socialized medicine is murder. There, happy?

56 posted on 12/19/2007 10:05:39 AM PST by sourcery (If Hillary is the next President, she may also be the last.)
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To: LilAngel
When I lost my right to life in deference to your desire for a right to die, your beliefs were forced on me.

Liberal doublespeak.

Everyone has the power to put their wishes in writing, and the right to have those enforced.

In the absence of those instructions, I don't want the state to start telling my family what choice they must make (in either direction).

57 posted on 12/19/2007 10:17:03 AM PST by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: highball

The right to life used to be recognized without need of a lawyer, documents and a public relations campaign. Just because someone hasn’t hired a lawyer and filled out documents stating they don’t wish to be tortured to death, doesn’t mean they do.

When the minority view became the default, the rights of the majority were cast aside.


58 posted on 12/19/2007 10:47:04 AM PST by LilAngel (FReeping on a cell phone is like making Christmas dinner in an Easy Bake Oven)
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To: LilAngel
tortured to death

Emotional appeals don't exactly help your argument - they're more liberal claptrap. Taking somebody off mechanical life support is not "tortured to death." Words mean things, after all.

When the minority view became the default, the rights of the majority were cast aside.

That might not be the best argument you could make - I think you'll find that wanting the choice to be taken off a respirator is the majority view.

Besides, shouldn't the default be that the family makes medical decisions? If the state's call (either way) is the default, that's wrong.

59 posted on 12/19/2007 10:55:32 AM PST by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: highball

The majority want a choice. The majority choose to live. The majority do not want to be denied basic care.

Do you have a clue what torture is? Stop eating and drinking, and then tell us how “euphoric” it is. It’s real easy for some folks to believe it’s no big deal when someone else suffers.


60 posted on 12/19/2007 11:03:30 AM PST by LilAngel (FReeping on a cell phone is like making Christmas dinner in an Easy Bake Oven)
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