Posted on 12/31/2007 8:52:38 PM PST by Spiff
I see the RINO bs keeps flowing. 99.9% of the candidates are lying right through their capped and whitened teeth.
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You lie when you say, ban on MG's. MG's can be bought and sold.
Whenever they complain that Romney supports a ban on “weapons of unusual lethality”, I’ve asked them whether their candidate is pushing to lift the ban on such weapons.
What is Mitt's definition of “weapons of unusual lethality”?
And now Romney pledges to do the same, which means that if there is no NEW AWB ban passed before he takes office, the 2nd amendment folks have NOTHING to worry about.
The simple fact is, if Mitt is POTUS and congress passes an AWB Mitt will sign it, he has no BALLS to veto it. Mitt has a proven record as Gov. of Mass.
From the Flippers website, like read reading a Nazi newspaper, saying they did not kill Jews.
Is Mitt telling you to lie? There is no ban om MG's.
Setting the record straight:
$50 abortions in MA thanks to Joe Isusu Romney.
The record is set straight.
I appreciate your statements. I understand that Fred Thompson is a more comfortable choice, on this one issue.
I’m someone who looks behind every issue. With this particular issue, the banning of the sale of certain types of weapons, I’ve seen the rhetoric is more black and white than the reality, given that there are currently banned weapons, and nobody really seems to be arguing that EVERY armament should be available to the average citizen.
In other words, virtually everybody would find SOME place to draw the line between weapons you could own, and weapons you could not own, even if you could afford them.
If people were arguing that Romney wants to draw that line too far to the left, that would be good debate to have, determining where that line is drawn.
But we rarely can get past the “My candidate is perfect, and Romney is a gun-grabber”, which in my mind completely ignores the reality of the situation regarding drawing that line between permitted and banned weapons.
Of course, so were the "ban" on weapons in the AWB. For example, the AWB didn't ban the ownership of guns (requiring people to turn them in), it simply banned the new sale of such guns to civilians.
Anyway, here's some source material regarding the machine gun ban, so that people won't think I'm trying to "deceive" them. I've included enough quotes to show that as a general descriptive term, ban is accurate, but urge people who want to know the WHOLE truth to read the entire referenced article.
It has been unlawful since 1934 (The National Firearms Act) for civilians to own machine guns without special permission from the U.S. Treasury Department.If you need special permission to get a gun, it's not regularly available to the average person, and hence the average person is "banned" from owning it. Note this isn't just a ban on sale, it's a ban on ownership. At any time the ATF can revoke your special privilege and confiscate your weapon.
Since the Firearms Owners' Protection Act of May 19, 1986, ownership of newly manufactured machine guns has been prohibited to civilians.If you want to own a machine gun, you can't own a new one if you are a civilian. You are banned from the purchase OR ownership of a machine gun built after 1986, regardless of whether you could finnagle some special permission to own the weapon.
Twenty-five states have no further restrictions on civilian ownership of machine guns (some require registration with the state) than what is required by federal law. Other states have either placed further restrictions or outlawed operable machine guns to civilians entirely. For further details see NRA state firearm law summaries.Some states restrict this even further, and even ban the ownership regardless of whether ATF grants "special permission".
As someone else noted, even if you do manage to convince ATF that you need a machine gun, you also have to pay a special "gun tax" every year.
In the posted article, Romney’s campaign says the weapons of unusual lethality are the types of weapons that are currently banned, I think he included things like grenade launchers.
He says he’s not looking to enact any NEW bans, and would only support weapons bans that were in effect at the time he took office.
Actually, the $50 abortions are thanks to the legislature, and to the federal law that requires states to cover abortions.
Care to post how Fred Thompson voted on the federal statute that requires coverage for abortion?
Fred Thompson supports abortion in the cases of rape and incest, and to save the life of the mother. Do you think he would do so, but prohibit medical insurance coverage for them?
See my reply just above this reply, including citations showing the general ban on the ownership of new fully automatic weapons by civilians, and the onerous restrictions that effectively ban ownership for the average person.
BTW, this is a great example of Mitt Derangement Syndrome.
A strong 2nd-amendment proponent trying to argue that Machine Guns aren’t prohibited, as if he’s perfectly happy with the 1934 and 1986 gun control laws — just so he can claim Mitt Romney supporters are lying.
If you went into ANY normal 2nd-amendment thread and tried to tell the pro-gun folks that Machine Guns were not banned, you’d be laughed out of the place.
I'll role play, I am Romney POTUS. This not a new AWB, it is the same ban which was enacted in 1994 and expired in 2004. Congress has not made any changes to the original ban except make it permanent. I did not request this legislation, but as you know I do support it for the same reasons I supported the Massachusetts's AWB, and will sign it into law.
You cannot trust Mitt as POTUS. Mitt ignores the Second Amendment, especially the part "shall not be infringed"
How could I forget ? It’s always anyone else’s fault but Joe Isuzu Romney’s.
So you don't lie, but you have learned "Mitt Speak"
Yes, willard is after my semi-auto deer rifle. A 308 is damn lethal.
Because willard said I was endorsed by the NRA when he ran for governor. It was an out right lie, and I just ask to see the letter of endorsement.
It looks like it will be Romney, in which case, I am going to start buying “Petraeus 2012” and “Ditch the Bitch 2012” bumper stickers.
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