Posted on 01/04/2008 6:23:42 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084
The National Smoking Day went well in England as festive multitudes disobeyed fraud-based antismoking laws. More information is coming in as we write. We will keep you posted as we resume regular publication next week.
Of course, had Anti forces succeeded in quashing the British event, there would be press releases and coverage galore in the mainstream media. Instead, widespread disobedience was successful and vaunted attempts at a crackdown were not, thus Anti and her media minions have nothing to say. Kowtowing media must show that they are making their best effort to suppress any and all information favourable to smokers, they must not indicate that smokers are getting sufficiently organized to make prohibition fail, so their silence is indeed golden in our eyes. The people are awakening to the hateful menace of antismoking, they are disgusted, they are resisting. That is what is happening and this shall continue.
Anti calls on the press at her convenience but she can never resist plain raving. Our British friends have forwarded to us an item of hate mail we'll share with you here. This was sent to the National Smoking Day e-mail address by a “gentleman” (so to speak) at 11:00 PM on the 31st of December, while Brits throughout the nation proudly and happily broke the law by smoking in public places. The letter oozes with the "hate juice" that the “public health” scum has managed to distil in the most weak-minded members of the public, thanks to false information on the consequences of smoking on health. “Public health” delights in providing excuses for hatred.
The letter's juvenile title reads: What a bunch of retards you people are
And the author proceeds (including a web reference to FORCES):
"I guess what they say about smokers is right, smokers don't care about anybody except for their addictive drug. I hope you smokers end up in jail where you belong do you have at least any considerate for non smokers, why should non smokers have to breathe in your smoke it is your smoke and not theirs. You people are sad for sure and you will not get anywhere at all like you think you will. Also people making these laws are not Nazis like this website has but I guess smoker will call other people Nazis. Don't forget Nazis killed a lot of people and people making these laws are trying to protect non smokers. Smokers are the ones that are harming and killing people so you can actually say smokers are the ones closer to Nazis. This is a war against smokers and this will continue also like it or not smokers are losing this battle."
Naturally enough, all the stereotypes of the Nazi mind-set are present in this letter that says that “public health” does not take its ideology from the Nazi era, which it most certainly does, as a matter of well documented fact. First of all, “smokers don’t care”, very much as it was said that Jews “did not care” about using their capital to exploit people. Second, one can see that the freedom to choose between smoking and non-smoking places is not even considered, for this would remove the justification for hatred. Third is another essential element to justify hatred: the junk science, the same methods beloved of eugenic social engineers, past and present. It is crystal clear that the dangers of passive smoking are a fraud – but it is a fraud that this reader – and what he represents – desperately needs, the only alternative being realisation that he and his ilk are just a bunch of hateful bastards.
From that stems the accusation that “smokers are the ones that are harming and killing people” while not even one death can be demonstrated to be caused by active smoking, let alone "passive smoking," a prohibitionist device that puts the "fatal glass of beer" of America's alcohol prohibition era to shame. The writer then typically mixes up non-smokers with pathological antismokers like himself, while there is a profound difference between the two: the non-smoker is simply a person who does not smoke, while the antismoker is the fascistic bastard who hates. Then, in fact, comes the confirmation, and the only truthful thing in this letter: “This is a war against smokers and this will continue”.
We know that well – and we can reply that this is now also a war against antismokers and it will continue until their putrid species goes back into the social and ideological sewers where it has belonged since, during, and long before the era of the Third Reich. Hate-based campaigns have raged throughout history. Today fanatical antismoking, like the Nazis early in WWII, advances apace, this is surely true – but it is also true that, the more that troops advance, the more they need supply lines and force dilution to maintain the conquered territories.
Recall what happened to Hitler’s forces when they got close enough to Moscow to see its lights. Their support system collapsed, and we know the rest: the oh-so "pure" and "superior", racist and healthist Nazis were wiped from the face of the Earth. In a different kind of war, American alcohol prohibition expanded to total control – but after many decades of anti-alcohol proselytizing, fear-mongering, hate-mongering, indoctrination, lobbying, and tyrannizing, it was brought down in a short 14 years. Carrie Nation always was a sick joke. People came to see that, they resisted, they won.
So, bank on this, hateful antismokers: we will wear antitobacco out, we will keep resisting until the human and financial costs of oppressing us will be impossible to bear. The antismoking cartel can keep stealing public money but there will never be enough money, frauds, propaganda, or tyranny, to extinguish the human spirit. It is time to deal with the institutional problem and we will. Whatever it takes, we shall expose the frauds, and the fraudsters, we shall always smoke right in their faces, and when we have firmly and finally humiliated today's properly-called antismoking Nazis, we shall do to them what they are doing to us.
We gladly say to all antismokers who care to visit FORCES: what is rightfully ours will be legally ours again, and oh, just by the way – we hate you too.
I, for one, pity him and hope that the other vile smokers and champions of liberty and its foundation (property rights) will remain true to their principles and have pity for him also.
A free person can do no less than show compassion for the weak.
Freedom is messy, and too heavy a burden for them.
I say the private Litany of Humility on a daily basis. I used to be much worse.
Would you care for a copy? That is not an attack, I believe that we all can benefit from some ego deflation. If anyone would like a copy, contact me via Freepmail.
Yes, run little butterfly.
“I say the private Litany of Humility on a daily basis”
You might want to consider hourly-—it isn’t wotking.
For those of you who care about such things, I have posted the Litany to my profile.
God bless each and every one of you on your life journey to Him. I pray that we all make it. Lord, hear my prayer.
Who said this was about smoking?
Yes, granted, the posted article was about smoking, however the thread posts go much deeper than a wisp of smoke.
This is not about smoking, it’s about all these draconian laws that are leveled on society, laws that strip liberty away, little by little until there’s none left.
This is WAY Beyond Smoking, hold your nose if you must, but you are missing the big picture, you are fighting the wrong battle.
Nicely said, Timm...and spot on.
Regards,
Yes.
Mark
Me too. I’m looking forward to this summer when tourists from all over the world find out that you can’t smoke here in Charleston. The word I get is that other cities like Savannah plan to take advantage of it.
That sounds like “cool beans” to me!!
I’d can’t wait to hear the gnashing of teeth, lol.
Are you a person who supports fascism, which is opposed to liberty?
Look it up. Fascism, as an economic philosophy, is where the government controls privately owned and run businesses. When the government tells a business owner that he or she must not allow a legal activity on his or her private property, that's just wrong.
I don't smoke, and haven't smoked in well over 20 years. I don't like the smell of cigarette smoke, and avoid it when I can. It's my choice not to go into a business that allows smoking. But I shouldn't have the right to use the force of government to force a business owner to disallow smoking at their place of business. It would be another thing if what they were doing was an illegal act. But as long as it's legal (and the government is enriched through taxes on it), then they should let the market, and business owners decide.
A good example of this is the building where I work. The company for which I work holds the 14th, 15th, and 16th floor of a building. As a perk, they installed a "smoking room" for employees on the 15th floor. This room has its own ventilation system, and dual doors, sort of like an "air lock." You can't smell any smoke coming out of that room. But as of January 1, my employers were forced to ban all smoking in that room, since it's now illegal to smoke anywhere in the building.
Mark
So what is your vice? Chocolate? Fast food burgers? Cheese? Red Meat? Martinis? When they start on you, see how it feels. It’s about a principle, not a particular item. You need to do a bit more research and thinking.
It's no different that when some dunderhead buys a house near an airport, knowing full well that the airport is there... And then demanding that the airport either shutdown and move, or restrict the hours of operation so that the dunderhead can get his or her beauty sleep!
Mark
Great analogy, as that’s exactly the same thing, imo.
This is primarily a "hearts and minds" battle we are facing, and as everyone knows, public opinion is usually not very favorable to our side. I think it's important to remain patient, logical, and respectful at all times.
I know it's difficult, especially when we are provoked, insulted, or subjected to ludicrous statements. I'm not perfect in this regard myself. But I think it's important to remember that you're not only responding to some Anti poster, you're also responding to lurkers reading the thread. Many of these lurkers may be fence sitters or open-minded, so there's no need to alienate them by slinging mud like our opponents. Let's always try to take the high road.
Now that I have that off my chest, I'll go ahead and step down from my soapbox now, don my asbestos undies, and await your righteous response :)
I went looking for that used in the sense of his post and came up with this from Michael Tomasky’s review of David Frum’s Comeback book:
“It is tempting to think that the Bush years have represented an apotheosis of conservatism, and that a future Republican administration would surely bring a kind of Thermidorean adjustment.”
You are too hard on yourself, Timm...from where I sit, you have always been one to take the high road.
I agree that it is becoming increasingly difficult to (as Mom always said) “keep a civil tongue in your mouth” about this topic, and I confess that rather than say anything TRULY nasty, I tend to keep my mouth shut. It is just as well, as I have no desire to either get bounced off FR or to give those who haven’t made up their minds about this a reason to side with the Antis.
Regards,
Sadly, they will. It seems that when people decide that they can use government to get what they want from others, they will cede more and more power to the government... Of course, we can see the sort of government that will lead to in a microcosm: Take a look at some homeowners associations, and the way they control every aspect of home ownership. There's one that I know of that passed a ban on the home owners owning pickup trucks, however a court was able to override that decision, so pickup trucks must be parked in a garage at all times, unless loading or unloading.
In the "good old days" when someone such as yourself decided that they wanted something like, say, a non-smoking bar, they would open one.
Mark
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