British Smokers Triumph As Anti Rages On

The National Smoking Day went well in England as festive multitudes disobeyed fraud-based antismoking laws. More information is coming in as we write. We will keep you posted as we resume regular publication next week.

Of course, had Anti forces succeeded in quashing the British event, there would be press releases and coverage galore in the mainstream media. Instead, widespread disobedience was successful and vaunted attempts at a crackdown were not, thus Anti and her media minions have nothing to say. Kowtowing media must show that they are making their best effort to suppress any and all information favourable to smokers, they must not indicate that smokers are getting sufficiently organized to make prohibition fail, so their silence is indeed golden in our eyes. The people are awakening to the hateful menace of antismoking, they are disgusted, they are resisting. That is what is happening and this shall continue.

Anti calls on the press at her convenience but she can never resist plain raving. Our British friends have forwarded to us an item of hate mail we'll share with you here. This was sent to the National Smoking Day e-mail address by a “gentleman” (so to speak) at 11:00 PM on the 31st of December, while Brits throughout the nation proudly and happily broke the law by smoking in public places. The letter oozes with the "hate juice" that the “public health” scum has managed to distil in the most weak-minded members of the public, thanks to false information on the consequences of smoking on health. “Public health” delights in providing excuses for hatred.

"I guess what they say about smokers is right, smokers don't care about anybody except for their addictive drug. I hope you smokers end up in jail where you belong do you have at least any considerate for non smokers, why should non smokers have to breathe in your smoke it is your smoke and not theirs. You people are sad for sure and you will not get anywhere at all like you think you will. Also people making these laws are not Nazis like this website has but I guess smoker will call other people Nazis. Don't forget Nazis killed a lot of people and people making these laws are trying to protect non smokers. Smokers are the ones that are harming and killing people so you can actually say smokers are the ones closer to Nazis. This is a war against smokers and this will continue also like it or not smokers are losing this battle."

Naturally enough, all the stereotypes of the Nazi mind-set are present in this letter that says that “public health” does not take its ideology from the Nazi era, which it most certainly does, as a matter of well documented fact. First of all, “smokers don’t care”, very much as it was said that Jews “did not care” about using their capital to exploit people. Second, one can see that the freedom to choose between smoking and non-smoking places is not even considered, for this would remove the justification for hatred. Third is another essential element to justify hatred: the junk science, the same methods beloved of eugenic social engineers, past and present. It is crystal clear that the dangers of passive smoking are a fraud – but it is a fraud that this reader – and what he represents – desperately needs, the only alternative being realisation that he and his ilk are just a bunch of hateful bastards.

From that stems the accusation that “smokers are the ones that are harming and killing people” while not even one death can be demonstrated to be caused by active smoking, let alone "passive smoking," a prohibitionist device that puts the "fatal glass of beer" of America's alcohol prohibition era to shame. The writer then typically mixes up non-smokers with pathological antismokers like himself, while there is a profound difference between the two: the non-smoker is simply a person who does not smoke, while the antismoker is the fascistic bastard who hates. Then, in fact, comes the confirmation, and the only truthful thing in this letter: “This is a war against smokers and this will continue”.

We know that well – and we can reply that this is now also a war against antismokers and it will continue until their putrid species goes back into the social and ideological sewers where it has belonged since, during, and long before the era of the Third Reich. Hate-based campaigns have raged throughout history. Today fanatical antismoking, like the Nazis early in WWII, advances apace, this is surely true – but it is also true that, the more that troops advance, the more they need supply lines and force dilution to maintain the conquered territories.

Recall what happened to Hitler’s forces when they got close enough to Moscow to see its lights. Their support system collapsed, and we know the rest: the oh-so "pure" and "superior", racist and healthist Nazis were wiped from the face of the Earth. In a different kind of war, American alcohol prohibition expanded to total control – but after many decades of anti-alcohol proselytizing, fear-mongering, hate-mongering, indoctrination, lobbying, and tyrannizing, it was brought down in a short 14 years. Carrie Nation always was a sick joke. People came to see that, they resisted, they won.

So, bank on this, hateful antismokers: we will wear antitobacco out, we will keep resisting until the human and financial costs of oppressing us will be impossible to bear. The antismoking cartel can keep stealing public money but there will never be enough money, frauds, propaganda, or tyranny, to extinguish the human spirit. It is time to deal with the institutional problem and we will. Whatever it takes, we shall expose the frauds, and the fraudsters, we shall always smoke right in their faces, and when we have firmly and finally humiliated today's properly-called antismoking Nazis, we shall do to them what they are doing to us.

We gladly say to all antismokers who care to visit FORCES: what is rightfully ours will be legally ours again, and oh, just by the way – we hate you too.

Looks like the Brits have more stones than us!

Many European countries have anti-smoking laws similar to ours. The difference between anti-smoking laws in Europe and those in America is that in Europe they are widely ignored.

I was recently in the airport in Frankfurt and saw "No Smoking" signs every 10 meters. Travelers didn't care. They lit up wherever they pleased. I saw people smoking directly under the "No Smoking" signs! Nobody bothered them or said anything.

Could you imagine the pandemonium if someone lit up a cigarette in an American airport?

"Many of these lurkers may be fence sitters or open-minded, so there's no need to alienate them by slinging mud like our opponents."

I think there is a huge difference between someone who may have a "policy disagreement" over some political issue, and when one side decides arbitrarily to take away freedoms. And there is absolutely no recourse because "majority rules" over smoking. And the "majority" can fine you or put you in jail if you don't obey. If the majority ruled that for example, nobody can have alcoholic beverages in a bar, you'd hear nothing but howling or even see violence from some of the same people decrying a lack of civility.

Dear St. Sursum Corda:

Please explain what an "avouded conservative" is. I never thought of myself as one of those.

An excerpt from your self-description includes:

Deliver me, Jesus, from the fear of suffering rebukes. Yet your deep humility requires others to suffer your rebuke because you are the righteous one.

I invite you disclose any areas in your life which are lacking in perfection. If you can't accuse yourself of any, then you are guilty of the capital sin of pride.

With all the evil we witness in this world, I'd suggest you focus on some of those problems rather than exaggerate the "sins" of those who get some satifaction from smoking.

Peace be with you.

You might want to consider hourly----it isn't working. LOL. Sursum prays for humility and believes, at the same time, that he/she has the authority to damn smokers. Or is smoking itself the target?

Fair is fair. I want to know Sursum's faults/weaknesses. True confession time for the judge.

You said the truth, timm22. That is the issue in a nutshell. If we allow the government(s) to slowly but assuredly chip away at citizens' rights, the United States will no longer be the land of the free.

Thanks for laying it on the line.

I liked the story of someone who carried a fake cigarette into a “no smoking” area. An employee immediately pounced on him with, “You cannot smoke here!”. Imagine her chagrin when told it wasn’t a cigarette! I doubt she was so quick to jump on someone else after that experience. LOL

The failure of the more level headed smokers on this thread to reign in the crazies will continue to hurt your cause. Be prepared to reap the whirlwind.

The whirlwind of which you speak will be reaped by you, and by all. As more people are forced to quit smoking, the government loses that much in taxes. The nanny state government will not tolerate this loss and will therefore raise taxes and fees on whatever your habit is.

Will you the complain that the taxes are unfair?

This is primarily a "hearts and minds" battle we are facing, and as everyone knows, public opinion is usually not very favorable to our side.

No! It is not a "hearts and minds" battle. It is a battle of property rights!

As many have said before on this very thread, the government should not have the right to tell the business owner that they will not permit that owner to allow a legal substance on his property!

God bless each and every one of you on your life journey to Him. I pray that we all make it. Lord, hear my prayer.

God created tobacco and meant for each of us who cares to do so enjoy it for all of our days. Amen.

No! It is not a "hearts and minds" battle. It is a battle of property rights!

I fully recognize how smoking bans violate property rights and just about every time this topic comes up I emphasize the property rights angle to any poster who supports a ban.

I think you may have misunderstood what I meant by the "hearts and minds" comment. My point wasn't about what arguments we should make, but how we should make those arguments and how we should conduct ourselves when advocating our position.

The simple truth is that those of us fighting for freedom face an uphill battle. Many of our opponents have been conditioned to view smokers as evil, selfish, and dirty. Similarly, our education and legal systems have grossly distorted the understanding of "property rights" for the average person.

That's why it's critical for pro-freedom types to stay calm and rational in our advocacy. If we allow the debate to become a contest of personalities, we allow this flawed thinking to go unchallenged.

I have little patience with the Smokers’ Lobby. I am a former smoker, quit now over 20 years. My children asked me to do so. It should not have come to that. I should have done it without their prodding. Was it “hard”? Yes. Do I believe that it was beneficial? Yes, in many ways. Food tastes better, my clothing, vehicles and home do not reek of tobacco smoke and I have not aged prematurely, as have some of my relatives who still light up. My general health is good and I am not wasting money on tobacco products. I have the time, money and stamina to pursue my hobby of woodworking and have increased my skills in the building trades as I remodel my house, one room at a time.

Thank you for sharing that with us after you sobered up in the morning. It was much better than the drunken filth you spewed at 1 am while playing my vice is better than your vice.

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