Amnesty John If this is straight talk, who needs lies?

NRO ^ | 8 Jan 08 | Mark Krikorian

[dforest]

I am getting the feeling we have a very stupid electorate.

No wonder our country is going to slide down the tubes.

Maybe they don’t even know or understand.

2008, the most annoying election.

[Califreak]

Straight Talk Express.

What a joke.

[Capt. Jake]

Who are the “elites . . . trying to run Rudy Giuliani on us?” As best I can tell, Rudy (who is not my preferred candidate) chose to run on his own, just as he did in NYC. I lived there during the Dinkins era. What Giuliani accomplished was amazing. No genuine conservative could have done what he did because no genuine conservative ever would have been elected. Also, we were all in love with Rudy when we thought he could stop Hillary from being elected to the senate.

He is far from perfect, but he is far, far better than any option with a (D) beside their name.

[sand88]

Get off Johnny's back. He's suffered enough.

McCain has shown that he is quite willing to do great damage to our Republic. McCain is an unstable power hungry petty man. He has absolutely no appreciation for Liberty or respect for our beloved Constitution. McCain my running for office rightfully opens himself up for critical examination. The list of McCains assault on the Constitution is out there for everyone to see.

I would with a clear conscience sit out the election than cast a vote for such a vile and despicable human. Luckily for our Republic, this cretin will NOT get the nomination. He is the perfect example of scum rising to the top.

[wilco200]

“Don’t lie John. They have you on tape saying that you support amnesty.”

How can a man who co-sponsors a bill with Ted kennedy be taken seriously at all.

Ted Kennedy holds original responsibiliy for the illegal alien problem we have today... see the immigration act of 1965.

[dforest]

Oh, I know.

Remember awhile back Fat Ted singing that little song, in the worst Spanish, or Massish, ever, at some pro illegal event?

Horrible.

[Jeff Chandler]

>>concentrate of exorcising the real devil (Obama).<<

Now is not the time to oppose Obama. He can be useful in derailing Mrs. Clinton. He is also peaking too soon. Come the general election, his inexperience and socialist ways can be illustrated.

[arderkrag]

I have been an interested observer watching how we are savaging every Republican candidate on FR. “Mc Cain is for Amnesty”; “Huckabee is a sociolist”; “Rudy is a Liberal”; “Romney is a flip flopper (Which he is). If you eliminate all of them, that leaves Fred who seems to be going out of his way to not win (He is now is S. Carolina where he might finish 3rd if he is lucky). So if you toss them all out, that leaves us with the nut Paul and Duncan Hunter who is great, but doesn’t stand a chance. So guys where do we go from here?

We vote for who agree with the most. Getting behind someone because we think they can win is a losing strategy. And if you think it's not, go ask the Whigs whether or not "hold your nose and vote" candidates win.

[Cinnamon Girl]

That’s an ingenius plan, sitting out the election. Please let our friends in the military know, especially the ones who are currently training to go to Iraq, how you plan to help elect Commander in Chief Obama.

[donna]

Give us a kiss, LOL!

[bmwcyle]

No he did not. We don’t want this worthless RINO.

[Andy'smom]

I think you hit the nail on the head. While they are starting to trickle into NH, it’s just not the issue there that it is in other areas.

[WOSG]

But when you examine the issue of accruing credit toward Social Security benefits, it’s clear that the first part of McCain’s response above is also a lie. Look specifically at his 2006 bill — on May 18, Senator Ensign introduced an amendment to bar work done while illegal from counting toward eligibility for future Social Security benefits for the amnestied illegals (see the amendment and vote tally here). The amendment was not some minor procedural measure that could be misinterpreted, or an omnibus measure with hidden provisions; it was a clear-cut, up-or-down question, — should illegal immigrants committing identity fraud receive Social Security benefits based on that fraud? Contrary to what you might conclude from all his huffing and puffing on the campaign trail, McCain’s answer at the time was “yes.”

Nail hits hammer. Dead center.

John "amnesty aint amnesty" McCain is doing what Huckabee has been doing about his record - lying about it to get away from people finding the truth.

McCain is wrong, very wrong, on immigration. And he's not learned his lesson. ... Hope the lesson is given to him today.

[Capt. Jake]

Donna-I don’t care if he wears a wig, dress and high heels, the SOB will take the fight to the terrorists. Obama will give them the keys to the country. So if the election comes down to those two, it is not a difficult choice in my book.

[UCFRoadWarrior]

Now is not the time to oppose Obama. He can be useful in derailing Mrs. Clinton. He is also peaking too soon. Come the general election, his inexperience and socialist ways can be illustrated.

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Good point. Obama knocking out Hillary would be a big help for the GOP. However, if the GOP picks a RINO for its candidate, the Dems could run Rosie ODonnell and possibly win

Now is the time to vette the GOP candidate.

[wilco200]

“Remember awhile back Fat Ted singing that little song, in the worst Spanish, or Massish, ever, at some pro illegal event?”

You mean this?
http://www.breitbart.tv/html/2085.html

[WOSG]

we vote for Romney, who at least is not insulting us with supporting the worst bill in 20 years like John McCain is.

And this Romney is a flip-flopper is way overused - they ALL spin, and in the case of McCain and Huckabee, outright lie about their positions ... and they all change positions.

Here’s McCain’s flipflops ... a sample ...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1950208/posts?page=215#215

McCain flipped on the Bush tax cuts.
Most conservatives believe the biggest domestic success of George Bush’s first term were his tax cuts. John McCain voted against them, more than once, before finally flip-flopping and voting for them this year.

McCain flipped on gay marriage.
Voted NO on constitutional ban of same-sex marriage. (Jun 2006)
Voted YES on prohibiting same-sex marriage. (Sep 1996)

McCain flipped on ethanol.
McCain was anti-ethanol when he was skipping Iowa in 1999. In 2006 he was pro-ethanol while campaigning in Iowa . Now he’s pretty anti-ethanol again that he’s decided to bypass Iowa. (THIS ONE IS A TRUE FLIP FLOP . . . Been on both sides of the issue multiple times)

McCain flipped on Roe.
In NH in 1999 McCain told reporters that “in the short term, or even the long term, I would not support repeal of Roe v. Wade.” He explained that overturning Roe would force “women in America to [undergo] illegal and dangerous operations.” In 2006, campaigning for the GOP nomination as a conservative, McCain said the opposite.

STEPHANOPOULOS: Let me ask one question about abortion. Then I want to turn to Iraq. You’re for a constitutional amendment banning abortion, with some exceptions for life and rape and incest.

MCCAIN: Rape, incest and the life of the mother. Yes.

STEPHANOPOULOS: So is President Bush, yet that hasn’t advanced in the six years he’s been in office. What are you going to do to advance a constitutional amendment that President Bush hasn’t done?

MCCAIN: I don’t think a constitutional amendment is probably going to take place, but I do believe that it’s very likely or possible that the Supreme Court should — could overturn Roe v. Wade....”

McCain flipped on climate change:
Kyoto By Any Other Name Would Still Smell As Rotten: John McCain proposed a radical bill, the McCain-Lieberman Stewardship Act, that is not all that different from the Kyoto Protocol. McCain’s bill would do cataclysmic damage to our economy. In the name of cutting greenhouse gas emissions by an insignificant percentage, that not even the biggest proponents of Kyoto believe would have a significant impact on the weather, here’s the damage John McCain would be willing to do to our economy (from an article by Marlo Lewis in National Review).

McCain flipped on stem cells.
Initially supporting the President’s restriction as to federal funding, McCain then asked for an expansion to include wider research saying, “I believe that we need to fund this. This is a tough issue for those of us in the pro-life community. I would remind you that these stem cells are either going to be discarded or perpetually frozen. We need to do what we can to relieve human suffering. It’s a tough issue. I support federal funding.” Source: 2007 GOP primary debate, at Reagan library, hosted by MSNBC May 3, 2007

McCain signed a letter from 58 Senators to the President
“ Dear Mr. President:

We write to urge you to expand the current federal policy concerning embryonic stem cell research.

[Jeff Chandler]

>>Now is the time to vette the GOP candidate.<<

And the GOP candidate must be one whose conservative principles can be contrasted to Ubama’s.

[UCFRoadWarrior]

McAmnesty has a plan to catch bin Laden:

Let him enter thru McAmnesty Open Border plan...and give him a Z Visa. No waterboarding...except for Osama taking a dip in the Rio Grande

[Bob]

If McCain, Romney, Huckabee, or Giuliani ends up as the Republican nominee, what's the point of being a Republican?

I'm not by any means a single-issue voter and have serious reservations about each of them on several major issues.