I was wondering if Martin was trying to “stir the pot” so to speak even bringing this angle up. I don’t think the whole “Catholics aren’t _real_ Christians” viewpoint of many born-again Christians is any real secret, frankly...
Does everyone know that John McCain proclaimed himself to be a Baptist now, when he was campaigning in SC a few months ago? LOL. This is after a lifetime of calling himself an Episcopalian.
I’m not voting for Huckabee in the primary but it is true Catholics are not Christians they are ROMAN Catholics. They know Christ like I know President Bush. I know about President Bush but I don’t know him in a personal way.
And so are the Mormons and J W.
I’m a Romney supporter.
Basically, anyone who doesn't accept their dogmatic worldview is either a second-class Christian or a cult. Deciding who to assign to hell or merely second-class Christian status may vary slightly based on who you talk to. Not so much different than the Lieberal State Church in this aspect.
It strikes me as a pretty short-sighted way to build a winning coalition in politics when p*ssing on those who have theological differences seems to be more important than fighting those who want to take away our God-given freedoms and our heads. The older I get, the less patient I grow with these types.
The evangelicals on FR will tell you flat out that Catholics are going straight to hell.
Same old mantra some of ya'll here insist on eh?
50 year old southern baptist here....fundamentalist-literalist-almost charismatic...
yet no one i know of here thinks Catholics are not Christian...never heard that in my life.
we think you guys should listen more to your Pope on some issues like abortion for instance and we were never big on liberation theology, your views of Mary, the need for clergy as conduit to the Lord, confession, you guys a guilt laden/we are shame laden...etc
but never have I had a preacher say ya'll were not Christian....never.
As for Mormons....I think are different...almost post-Christian Christian....like Sufis to Islam or Noachide to Judaism....hard to tell....it's their business.
Jehovah Witness...wow....they are strange birds....hard to say...
Unitarians....nope.
many protestants.....apostate nowadays sadly....good works salvation/faith neglectors....who often dismiss the old covenant when it suits them.
I don't think this Pope is apostate at all....he seems to stick to his creed even if it's a bit grating to we Prods....but a lot of Catholics are milquetoast I seen....they just go thru the motions. Not the ones here mind you. I wish more were devout...the West would be far better off culturally...they used to be a cornerstone and dependable.
You may not like Fundamentalists...which are different from Evangelicals......but Fundamentalists are hardly ever lapsed...by their very nature they are true believers.
this is not directed at you but the hostility directed at and the ignorance of Fundamentalist/Evangelical/Charismatic Christianity on this a right wing forum....is appalling and a sad testament to our times. I cannot imagine Dwight Eisenhower having to apologize or explain being a Christian in order to run for national office. It's nuts.